Kolb-List Digest Archive

Sun 05/15/16


Total Messages Posted: 4



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:49 AM - Re: Re: contoured seats (Patrick Ladd)
     2. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: contoured seats (John Hauck)
     3. 09:09 AM - Sheep Skin seat cover... (Nick Cassara)
     4. 10:19 AM - Re: Sheep Skin seat cover... (Herb)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:49:16 AM PST US
    From: Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: contoured seats
    To remedy that they installed a sheet metal pan under the seat. I followed suit.>. Good thinking John, It was a long time ago but i am pretty sure that the Light Aircraft Association under whose rules my Extra was built insisted on a metal pan under the seat,plus I think, some pretty stiff rubber shock absorbent material. Pat -----Original Message----- From: John Hauck Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:13 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: contoured seats Very comfortable. http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/FSII%20seat%20page.html Not too complex to make, requires some welding skills. -------- Richard Pike Richard P/Kolbers: We did something similar to Richards seat when we were building Miss P'fer, my MKIII, back in 1991. The Ultrastar seat was a plastic waiting room chair seat. I was scrounging around in the attic of Homer Kolb's barn, Kolb Aircraft Company, and discovered two US seats. Brother Jim welded up the seat frames and we were in business. I went a little further with my seat using a trick learned from the JAARS (Jungle Aviation and Radio Service). One of their pilots had become paralyzed when the Heliocourier he was flying stalled and crashed on short final to a jungle airstrip. When the aircraft pan caked in, he was driven down through the 4130 steel seat frame. To remedy that they installed a sheet metal pan under the seat. I followed suit. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama


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    Time: 06:33:46 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: contoured seats
    To remedy that they installed a sheet metal pan under the seat. I followed suit.>. Good thinking John, It was a long time ago but i am pretty sure that the Light Aircraft Association under whose rules my Extra was built insisted on a metal pan under the seat,plus I think, some pretty stiff rubber shock absorbent material. Pat Patrick L/Kolbers: I take no credit for the idea. That belongs to the JAARS Bible translators. Many years ago at Sun and Fun, I was looking at the JAARS Heliocourier, serial number 1. First thing I saw was the chromoly tube seat frame legs were "Z'd" to collapse during a crash. Then one of the JAARS pilots pointed out the seat pan and shared the story of the crash that paralyzed their friend. Heliocouriers and Kolbs have slow flight characteristics in common. Would have made a neat aircraft to do my long cross country flights in. I could have slept in the aircraft like an RV. But, I could hardly afford to feed the 912, much less that hungry Heliocourier. Besides, it was more satisfying doing it in something I built in my basement. I never liked the idea of flying on a fabric seat. Especially crashing on a fabric seat. I can think of many ways to get injured during a crash. I had a hard seat in my Firestar. First a Ken Brock seat tank, then a jon boat fishing seat someone gave me. I went with the seat tank to increase my fuel capacity for cross country flights. It increased my fuel, but cut down on available space for my camping gear. I had to sling load my sleeping bag between the main gear legs. We then built an 18 gal 5052 aluminum fuel tank that fit the area up top and behind the bulkhead. That opened up the bottom where the plastic tank was located. The plastic seat allowed more room behind and under the seat, and the sleeping bag got stowed inside the aircraft. Worked well, but the 5 rib wing was being overloaded and overworked. Not good. I took care of compensating for extra weight and stress when I built the MKIII. Much more comfortable feeling when one gets caught in nasty weather. The MKIII has survived much better than me. ;-) john h mkIII Titus, Alabama


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    Time: 09:09:34 AM PST US
    From: Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net>
    Subject: Sheep Skin seat cover...
    Kolbers, An easy way to make a seat more comfortable is to cover it with a sheep skin. Even in warm climates a clipped sheep skin is comfortable. Your can some times buy them online as Dog beds, cheaper than skins marketed for your living room. Nick Cassara Palmer, AK


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    Time: 10:19:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sheep Skin seat cover...
    From: Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
    Woa!! Alaska ?? sheep skins?? Sacrilege... What happened to Polar Bear, Grizzly Bear, Moose?? :-) Herb who prefers the simple sling seat.... On 05/15/2016 11:09 AM, Nick Cassara wrote: > > > Kolbers, > > An easy way to make a seat more comfortable is to cover it with a sheep skin. Even in warm climates a clipped sheep skin is comfortable. Your can some times buy them online as Dog beds, cheaper than skins marketed for your living room. > > Nick Cassara > Palmer, AK > > -- Signature text; Fort Marcy Park? Sure...Mr. Foster...Third red light and turn left.




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