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1. 04:49 AM - Re: Re: contoured seats (Patrick Ladd)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: contoured seats (John Hauck)
3. 09:09 AM - Sheep Skin seat cover... (Nick Cassara)
4. 10:19 AM - Re: Sheep Skin seat cover... (Herb)
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Subject: | Re: contoured seats |
To remedy that they installed a
sheet metal pan under the seat. I followed suit.>.
Good thinking John,
It was a long time ago but i am pretty sure that the Light Aircraft
Association under whose rules my Extra was built insisted on a metal pan
under the seat,plus I think, some pretty stiff rubber shock absorbent
material.
Pat
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From: John Hauck
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: contoured seats
Very comfortable.
http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/FSII%20seat%20page.html
Not too complex to make, requires some welding skills.
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Richard Pike
Richard P/Kolbers:
We did something similar to Richards seat when we were building Miss P'fer,
my MKIII, back in 1991. The Ultrastar seat was a plastic waiting room chair
seat. I was scrounging around in the attic of Homer Kolb's barn, Kolb
Aircraft Company, and discovered two US seats. Brother Jim welded up the
seat frames and we were in business.
I went a little further with my seat using a trick learned from the JAARS
(Jungle Aviation and Radio Service). One of their pilots had become
paralyzed when the Heliocourier he was flying stalled and crashed on short
final to a jungle airstrip. When the aircraft pan caked in, he was driven
down through the 4130 steel seat frame. To remedy that they installed a
sheet metal pan under the seat. I followed suit.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: contoured seats |
To remedy that they installed a
sheet metal pan under the seat. I followed suit.>.
Good thinking John,
It was a long time ago but i am pretty sure that the Light Aircraft
Association under whose rules my Extra was built insisted on a metal pan
under the seat,plus I think, some pretty stiff rubber shock absorbent
material.
Pat
Patrick L/Kolbers:
I take no credit for the idea. That belongs to the JAARS Bible translators.
Many years ago at Sun and Fun, I was looking at the JAARS Heliocourier,
serial number 1. First thing I saw was the chromoly tube seat frame legs
were "Z'd" to collapse during a crash. Then one of the JAARS pilots pointed
out the seat pan and shared the story of the crash that paralyzed their
friend.
Heliocouriers and Kolbs have slow flight characteristics in common. Would
have made a neat aircraft to do my long cross country flights in. I could
have slept in the aircraft like an RV. But, I could hardly afford to feed
the 912, much less that hungry Heliocourier. Besides, it was more
satisfying doing it in something I built in my basement.
I never liked the idea of flying on a fabric seat. Especially crashing on a
fabric seat. I can think of many ways to get injured during a crash. I had
a hard seat in my Firestar. First a Ken Brock seat tank, then a jon boat
fishing seat someone gave me. I went with the seat tank to increase my fuel
capacity for cross country flights. It increased my fuel, but cut down on
available space for my camping gear. I had to sling load my sleeping bag
between the main gear legs. We then built an 18 gal 5052 aluminum fuel tank
that fit the area up top and behind the bulkhead. That opened up the bottom
where the plastic tank was located. The plastic seat allowed more room
behind and under the seat, and the sleeping bag got stowed inside the
aircraft. Worked well, but the 5 rib wing was being overloaded and
overworked. Not good. I took care of compensating for extra weight and
stress when I built the MKIII. Much more comfortable feeling when one gets
caught in nasty weather. The MKIII has survived much better than me. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Sheep Skin seat cover... |
Kolbers,
An easy way to make a seat more comfortable is to cover it with a sheep skin. Even
in warm climates a clipped sheep skin is comfortable. Your can some times
buy them online as Dog beds, cheaper than skins marketed for your living room.
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
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Subject: | Re: Sheep Skin seat cover... |
Woa!! Alaska ?? sheep skins?? Sacrilege... What happened to Polar
Bear, Grizzly Bear, Moose?? :-) Herb who prefers the simple sling seat....
On 05/15/2016 11:09 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
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> Kolbers,
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> An easy way to make a seat more comfortable is to cover it with a sheep skin.
Even in warm climates a clipped sheep skin is comfortable. Your can some times
buy them online as Dog beds, cheaper than skins marketed for your living room.
>
> Nick Cassara
> Palmer, AK
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