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1. 07:11 AM - Re: Firestar cage (Richard Pike)
2. 07:16 AM - Re: Re: Firestar cage (John Hauck)
3. 07:42 AM - Re: Firestar cage (Richard Pike)
4. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: Firestar cage (John Hauck)
5. 08:23 AM - Re: Firestar cage (Richard Pike)
6. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: Firestar cage (Herb)
7. 09:25 AM - Re: Re: Firestar cage (Herb)
8. 10:26 AM - additional fuel on a Mk 3 x (phcpilot)
9. 11:03 AM - Re: additional fuel on a Mk 3 x (Larry Cottrell)
10. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: Firestar cage (Stuart Harner)
11. 11:45 AM - Re: additional fuel on a Mk 3 x (John Hauck)
12. 12:42 PM - Re: Firestar cage (Richard Pike)
13. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: Firestar cage (Herb)
14. 01:37 PM - Re: Firestar cage (Richard Pike)
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
Original Firestar, 5 rib wing. The only usable cage parts are the rear verticals
from the 1/2" bolt cluster up to the motor mount tube, the tube including the
front and rear spar carry throughs. Also have the front tube ring with the landing
gear leg sockets, it is reusable. Every other tube is severely bent.
So we will be fabricating a new cage based on the rear verticals, the top tube,
and the gear leg sockets.
It's good to be retired...
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
Can't remember if Bryan Melborn still has the jigs for the original FS or
not.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Original Firestar, 5 rib wing. The only usable cage parts are the rear
verticals from the 1/2" bolt cluster up to the motor mount tube, the tube
including the front and rear spar carry throughs. Also have the front tube
ring with the landing gear leg sockets, it is reusable. Every other tube is
severely bent.
So we will be fabricating a new cage based on the rear verticals, the top
tube, and the gear leg sockets.
It's good to be retired...
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
I don't think so. I asked Travis about that over a year ago when I first got interested
in this wreck, and it seems I would have had to furnish the specs for
spar pickup points, as they did not have those any more.
However, looking at various pictures online this morning, it occurs to me - why
not fashion the new cage after a Firefly cage? Simpler and probably lighter.
So - if anyone has any pictures of your naked Firefly cage you would like to contribute,
I would be happy to have them. Failing that, I can wait until Bryan
is making one, and ride up to the factory and get some there.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
Firefly fuselage was based on the original FS fuselage.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
I don't think so. I asked Travis about that over a year ago when I first got
interested in this wreck, and it seems I would have had to furnish the specs
for spar pickup points, as they did not have those any more.
However, looking at various pictures online this morning, it occurs to me -
why not fashion the new cage after a Firefly cage? Simpler and probably
lighter.
So - if anyone has any pictures of your naked Firefly cage you would like to
contribute, I would be happy to have them. Failing that, I can wait until
Bryan is making one, and ride up to the factory and get some there.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
Good, then they ought to be compatible. And I have found a source of all the pictures
I need,
http://harnerfarm.net/serenity/serenity.html
so thanks to all you guys anyway, we can suspend this thread, I am good to go
here.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
Sorry that I did not reduce the pics....!!
forgot to mention that I have a damaged nose cone ..that can be had
for free.. Herb
On 07/02/2016 10:23 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
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> Good, then they ought to be compatible. And I have found a source of all the
pictures I need,
> http://harnerfarm.net/serenity/serenity.html
> so thanks to all you guys anyway, we can suspend this thread, I am good to
go here.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457640#457640
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
Bro Pike
I sent the large pics directly to you....Matronics would not allow
the size and I grew tired of trying to reduce them...more lack of
patience that being tired.!! :-)
Herb
On 07/02/2016 11:01 AM, Herb wrote:
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> Sorry that I did not reduce the pics....!!
>
> forgot to mention that I have a damaged nose cone ..that can be had
> for free.. Herb
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| Subject: | additional fuel on a Mk 3 x |
Looking at flying almost coast to coast and want more fuel preferably external.
Have hung Chinook football tanks on a V strut Rans a few times but has anyone
done it on the single strut Kolb?
What about more baggage?
Thanks for any input.
Peter ( you could also get me at cowan,phc at gmail)
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| Subject: | Re: additional fuel on a Mk 3 x |
On a trip with Arty, I put two 5 gal tanks in the rear seat with a elect
pump, plumbed into the front tank on my firestar. It gave me 20 gallons
available gas, and I still had room for camping equip. As long as the
weight is under the CG and you do not exceed your max gross, you should be
all right.
Larry
On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:25 AM, phcpilot <cowan.phc@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Looking at flying almost coast to coast and want more fuel preferably
> external. Have hung Chinook football tanks on a V strut Rans a few times
> but has anyone done it on the single strut Kolb?
>
> What about more baggage?
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Peter ( you could also get me at cowan,phc at gmail)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457649#457649
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
Richard,
Let me know if you need any dimensions from Serenity and I will get them for
you.
Since I have no place to fly from this summer she is resting comfortably in
the camper parked in the driveway.
Stuart
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Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 10:23 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar cage
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Good, then they ought to be compatible. And I have found a source of all
the pictures I need, http://harnerfarm.net/serenity/serenity.html
so thanks to all you guys anyway, we can suspend this thread, I am good to
go here.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457640#457640
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| Subject: | additional fuel on a Mk 3 x |
Hang the tanks on the lift strut main spar attach point (bolt).
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of phcpilot
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 12:26 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: additional fuel on a Mk 3 x
Looking at flying almost coast to coast and want more fuel preferably
external. Have hung Chinook football tanks on a V strut Rans a few times but
has anyone done it on the single strut Kolb?
What about more baggage?
Thanks for any input.
Peter ( you could also get me at cowan,phc at gmail)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457649#457649
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
Herb; thank you so much. With what we now have to work with, it suddenly looks
possible that we might actually have this thing flying by fall.
Stuart; once we start to jig things up, I will likely be pestering you.
John, thanks for all your experience.
The folks on this list are great. I am thankful to be a part of this group of people.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
I also have a Firefly builders manual ...around here somewhere...yep
just found it....yours too....
by the way...my not have been apparent..but spar carry through is
bent... Herb
On 07/02/2016 02:42 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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> Herb; thank you so much. With what we now have to work with, it suddenly looks
possible that we might actually have this thing flying by fall.
> Stuart; once we start to jig things up, I will likely be pestering you.
> John, thanks for all your experience.
> The folks on this list are great. I am thankful to be a part of this group of
people.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457656#457656
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cage |
[quote="Herbgh(at)nctc.com"] by the way...may not have been apparent..but spar
carry through is
bent... Herb [quote]
Beggars can't be choosers. Besides, if you get steel hot enough, it will bend back.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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