---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/17/16: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:20 AM - Re: Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. (Herb) 2. 08:04 AM - Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. (racerjerry) 3. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. (Wayne Schneider) 4. 09:32 AM - Re: Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. (Jim Thomson) 5. 09:55 AM - Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. (mojavjoe@comcast.net) 6. 12:46 PM - Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. (Rick Neilsen) 7. 03:26 PM - Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. (Richard Pike) 8. 03:44 PM - Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. (K I) 9. 09:31 PM - Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. (fdeloera) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. From: Herb Towing ,nose forward, offers a more simple method..but not on a windy day...Herb On 10/16/2016 09:23 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > Years ago I built a trailer for my Maxair Hummer, which was Part 103 legal, so probably lighter than a typical Firestar. It was a modified motorcycle trailer with a MUCH longer tongue. Towed it with a VW bus. No trailer brakes, no braking problems. Biggest problem is the turbulence when an 18 wheeler passes you. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > > Would you consider yourself to be a good person? > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461364#461364 > > -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:49 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. From: "racerjerry" DON' NEED NO STINKIN' BRAKES Seriously, you have a lot better chance of the trailer passing you if the trailer brakes should unexpectedly lock up. -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461384#461384 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. From: Wayne Schneider Check with your state department of transportation. There is probably a gross weight at which brakes are required. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:17 AM PST US From: Jim Thomson Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. You dont need no stinkin brakes. Fly your Kolb to the destination. On Oct 17, 2016 9:27 AM, "Wayne Schneider" wrote: > > Check with your state department of transportation. There is probably a > gross weight at which brakes are required. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:46 AM PST US From: mojavjoe@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. I built a large in-closed trailer with no brakes for my firestar ss, drove it from Brunswick, Ga. through the mountains to London, Ky. and back with no problems. ----- Original Message ----- From: "fdeloera" Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:40:34 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. I am going to build a light-weight trailer for my Firestar II. It won't be enclosed, it will just be a small T-shaped, single axle trailer. Considering the total weight including the plane (I haven't done the math yet, but I'm sure that it would be well under 1000 lbs), I am undecided whether it should have its own brakes or not. Under normal conditions my pickup truck brakes would be adequate enough to stop it with no problems. My only concern is for that occational sudden freeway screeching halt. I'd sure hate for my Firestar to be passing me. Am I being paranoid? Any thoughts? -------- Fred Phoenix Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461360#461360 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:39 PM PST US From: Rick Neilsen Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. I built a light weight single axle enclosed trailer made for a light boat with no brakes for my VW powered MKIIIC. I pulled it with my Toyota mini van. It has been to the Kolb flyin, It has been to the UP of Michigan, and it has been to Florida. The trailer is streamlined so it pulled very easy up to well over 70 MPH but passing or getting passed by a truck or worse a bus was a real nightmare. So I always kept the speed down to 55-60 MPH even on the express way. Made a bunch of friends out there. I never had a need for trailer brakes. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:51 PM, wrote: > I built a large in-closed trailer with no brakes for my firestar ss, drove > it from Brunswick, Ga. through the mountains to London, Ky. and back with > no problems. > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"fdeloera" > *To: *"kolb-list" > *Sent: *Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:40:34 PM > *Subject: *Kolb-List: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. > > > I am going to build a light-weight trailer for my Firestar II. It won't be > enclosed, it will just be a small T-shaped, single axle trailer. > Considering the total weight including the plane (I haven't done the math > yet, but I'm sure that it would be well under 1000 lbs), I am undecided > whether it should have its own brakes or not. Under normal conditions my > pickup truck brakes would be adequate enough to stop it with no problems. > My only concern is for that occational sudden freeway screeching halt. I'd > sure hate for my Firestar to be passing me. Am I being paranoid? Any > thoughts? > > -------- > Fred > Phoenix > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461360#461360 > > > ; -Mat============== > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. From: "Richard Pike" [quote="Herbgh(at)nctc.com"]Towing ,nose forward, offers a more simple method..but not on a windy day...Herb On 10/16/2016 09:23 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > > Years ago I built a trailer for my Maxair Hummer, which was Part 103 legal, so probably lighter than a typical Firestar. It was a modified motorcycle trailer with a MUCH longer tongue. Towed it with a VW bus. No trailer brakes, no braking problems. Biggest problem is the turbulence when an 18 wheeler passes you. > > -------- > Richard Pike > > You are not seriously suggesting I was towing it backwards are you? [Shocked] -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Would you consider yourself to be a good person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461402#461402 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:24 PM PST US From: K I Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. I modified my old motorcycle trailer to be able to haul my Kolb Firestar II . I pulled it with my 1983 Mercedes 300SD to different airports around Utah without any difficulty. I later modified my trailer to haul my Mark III. I pulled that from North Carolina back to Utah, and then around to different airports in Utah. I had no trouble using my Mercedes to pull it. I am now using my Subaru Outback to haul the Mark III back-and-forth between Salt La ke and Brigham city, (80 miles each way). So far, all is working well. I wo uldn't think your pick-up should have any trouble at all pulling or stoppin g. Kurt Mark III 912UL Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2016, at 11:02, "mojavjoe@comcast.net" > wrote: I built a large in-closed trailer with no brakes for my firestar ss, drove it from Brunswick, Ga. through the mountains to London, Ky. and back with n o problems. ________________________________ From: "fdeloera" > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:40:34 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. ra@att.net>> I am going to build a light-weight trailer for my Firestar II. It won't be enclosed, it will just be a small T-shaped, single axle trailer. Considerin g the total weight including the plane (I haven't done the math yet, but I' m sure that it would be well under 1000 lbs), I am undecided whether it sho uld have its own brakes or not. Under normal conditions my pickup truck bra kes would be adequate enough to stop it with no problems. My only concern i s for that occational sudden freeway screeching halt. I'd sure hate for my Firestar to be passing me. Am I being paranoid? Any thoughts? -------- Fred Phoenix Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461360#461360 ; -Mat============== ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:22 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Need some opinions on trailer brakes. From: "fdeloera" Thank you all for your responses and comments. The consensus is "no brakes" and that's what I'm going with. To tell the truth, I didn't want the additional cost and complexity and maintenance of electric brakes anyways. It's just more over-kill. -------- Fred Phoenix Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461411#461411 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.