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1. 04:56 AM - Re: Aileron trim and a new video (Patrick Ladd)
2. 07:54 AM - Re: Aileron trim and a new video (Rex Rodebush)
3. 09:14 AM - Re: 7/16 x .028 shims (chris davis)
4. 10:38 AM - Re: 7/16 x .028 shims (Herb)
5. 10:46 AM - Re: 7/16 x .028 shims (Herb)
6. 02:03 PM - Re: NEED HELP... Setting wing incidence on a Mk3 Xtra (Rex Rodebush)
7. 02:07 PM - Re: NEED HELP... Setting wing incidence on a Mk3 Xtra (Rex Rodebush)
8. 02:10 PM - Re: NEED HELP... Setting wing incidence on a Mk3 Xtra (Rex Rodebush)
9. 04:27 PM - Kolb Firestar 1... (Herb)
10. 04:32 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar 1... (Larry Cottrell)
11. 04:52 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar 1... Kxp (B Young)
12. 06:22 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar 1... Kxp (Herb)
13. 06:24 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar 1... (Herb)
14. 06:31 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar 1... (Herb)
15. 08:15 PM - Re: 7/16 x .028 shims (chris davis)
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron trim and a new video |
Lovely smooth video. No music unfortunately. I think if I was flying in yo
ur area I would choose an amphibian. Stayed many years ago with a guy in La
ke Wales and flew a Buccaneer (I think). I have flown a French amphib.also
. The amphibian is an exciting change, Easy to fly, the water landings are
really not much trouble. I was sent solo after two trips dual. Swimming an
d fishing from the plane and the use of deserted beaches for picnics opens
up your options plus a lot of places to land if it does suddenly get all qu
iet.
Pat
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Sent: 24 October 2016 16:38:55
Subject: Kolb-List: Aileron trim and a new video
Thanks to all for the aileron trim suggestions a few months ago. I made an
adjustable trim and then had to add a little bit on the rudder trim for th
e extra drag. See attached pictures.
Also, I made a new video with the camera mounted outside and added some mus
ic. I'm flying about 2500'. Would like to go lower but a little nervous a
s some times no good options for landing if an engine out occurs.
Go to utube and type in "flying a kolb over table rock lake" and it should
come up.
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron trim and a new video |
Pat, I have looked at making it an amphibian. The main concerns I have are that
with the extra weight and a full tank it pretty much becomes a single place
airplane. Also, you need a paved or very smooth grass runway. You would give
up many off field landing areas.
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| Subject: | Re: 7/16 x .028 shims |
Herb the shims go on the 3/8 bolt that goes through th H tube so the flapero
n arms can swivel freely .
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> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
>
> Chris
>
> I do not recall them..what is the purpose? Herb
>
>> On 10/24/2016 09:36 AM, chris davis wrote:
>> Kolbers , On my Firefly construction Im told to cut two shims of 4130 7/1
6 x 028 I believe they will be about 1/8 each or less I dont have any tubing
of that size laying around so i called Aircraft Spruce and they dont have a
ny either the thinnest wall that they have is .035 so i thought maybe someon
e on the list might be able to send me a little piece by us mail wont cost m
uch for shipping so can anyone help me out?thank u Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Davis
>> KXP 503 492 hrs
>> Glider Pilot
>> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>
> --
> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democr
acies give way to tyranny."
>
> Aristotle
>
> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and w
hat does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who
is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
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| Subject: | Re: 7/16 x .028 shims |
Chris
Those are short pieces of tubing that fit over the h section through
bolt..Just a bit longer than the actuation levers are wide...Herb
On 10/25/2016 11:14 AM, chris davis wrote:
> Herb the shims go on the 3/8 bolt that goes through th H tube so the
> flaperon arms can swivel freely .
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com
> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote:
>
>> Chris
>>
>> I do not recall them..what is the purpose? Herb
>>
>>
>> On 10/24/2016 09:36 AM, chris davis wrote:
>>> Kolbers , On my Firefly construction Im told to cut two shims of
>>> 4130 7/16 x 028 I believe they will be about 1/8 each or less I dont
>>> have any tubing of that size laying around so i called Aircraft
>>> Spruce and they dont have any either the thinnest wall that they
>>> have is .035 so i thought maybe someone on the list might be able to
>>> send me a little piece by us mail wont cost much for shipping so can
>>> anyone help me out?thank u Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Davis
>>> KXP 503 492 hrs
>>> Glider Pilot
>>> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>>
>> --
>> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies
give way to tyranny."
>>
>> Aristotle
>>
>> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what
does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is
Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
--
"Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies
give way to tyranny."
Aristotle
"Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what
does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin
and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
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| Subject: | Re: 7/16 x .028 shims |
the holes in the levers should be just large enough to allow the shims
to slide freely through.. ..Herb
On 10/25/2016 12:36 PM, Herb wrote:
>
> Chris
>
> Those are short pieces of tubing that fit over the h section
> through bolt..Just a bit longer than the actuation levers are wide...Herb
>
>
> On 10/25/2016 11:14 AM, chris davis wrote:
>> Herb the shims go on the 3/8 bolt that goes through th H tube so the
>> flaperon arms can swivel freely .
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com
>> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> I do not recall them..what is the purpose? Herb
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/24/2016 09:36 AM, chris davis wrote:
>>>> Kolbers , On my Firefly construction Im told to cut two shims of
>>>> 4130 7/16 x 028 I believe they will be about 1/8 each or less I
>>>> dont have any tubing of that size laying around so i called
>>>> Aircraft Spruce and they dont have any either the thinnest wall
>>>> that they have is .035 so i thought maybe someone on the list might
>>>> be able to send me a little piece by us mail wont cost much for
>>>> shipping so can anyone help me out?thank u Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Davis
>>>> KXP 503 492 hrs
>>>> Glider Pilot
>>>> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies
give way to tyranny."
>>>
>>> Aristotle
>>>
>>> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what
does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is
Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
>
> --
> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies
give way to tyranny."
>
> Aristotle
>
> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what
does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is
Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
--
"Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies
give way to tyranny."
Aristotle
"Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what
does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin
and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
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| Subject: | Re: NEED HELP... Setting wing incidence on a Mk3 Xtra |
Attached are downsized pictures of the aileron trim attachment, the landing gear
and some pictures of my rear u-joints.
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| Subject: | Re: NEED HELP... Setting wing incidence on a Mk3 Xtra |
two pictures did not attach. Hope this works.
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| Subject: | Re: NEED HELP... Setting wing incidence on a Mk3 Xtra |
One more time
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| Subject: | Kolb Firestar 1... |
I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a
KXP? When were they built?
And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the coil
is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be mounted for a
points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ...
Any info would be appreciated...Herb
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar 1... |
It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe it was
the first 7 rib firestar.
Larry
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a KXP?
> When were they built?
> And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the coil is
> mounted in the location where the dual coils would be mounted for a points
> ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ...
> Any info would be appreciated...Herb
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar 1... Kxp |
Kolb web sight has a history page. It explains the timeline and
development of the different models.
http://www.kolbaircraft.com/history.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar 1... Kxp |
thanks for the reminder...been there and read that before... :-) Herb
On 10/25/2016 06:51 PM, B Young wrote:
>
> Kolb web sight has a history page. It explains the timeline and
> development of the different models.
>
> http://www.kolbaircraft.com/history.htm
>
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and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar 1... |
If I read it right...the one I am looking at is a KX...per 1990 maybe?
Herb
On 10/25/2016 06:32 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe it
> was the first 7 rib firestar.
> Larry
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com
> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>>
>
>
> I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a
> KXP? When were they built?
> And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the
> coil is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be
> mounted for a points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ...
> Any info would be appreciated...Herb
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar 1... |
pre 1990.... Herb
On 10/25/2016 08:23 PM, Herb wrote:
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> If I read it right...the one I am looking at is a KX...per 1990
> maybe? Herb
>
>
> On 10/25/2016 06:32 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
>> It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe
>> it was the first 7 rib firestar.
>> Larry
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com
>> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote:
>>
>> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>>
>>
>>
>> I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is
>> a KXP? When were they built?
>> And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the
>> coil is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be
>> mounted for a points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ...
>> Any info would be appreciated...Herb
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does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is
Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
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give way to tyranny."
Aristotle
"Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what
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and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
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| Subject: | Re: 7/16 x .028 shims |
Yes herb I know what they are I was just trying to locate a piece of tubing t
hat size 7/16 x 028 as I said I don't have any and I call aircraft spruce an
d they don't have any 7/16 with a wall that thin 035 was the thinnest wall t
hey sell so instead of buying a lot more than I need somewhere else I though
t perhaps someone on the list might have a piece they could send me ? Get m
y drift? Thanks for the comeback if no one else responds I guess I will look
elsewhere or maybe even ask Bryon at KOLB for a piece . Chris
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
>
> Chris
>
> Those are short pieces of tubing that fit over the h section through bo
lt..Just a bit longer than the actuation levers are wide...Herb
>
>> On 10/25/2016 11:14 AM, chris davis wrote:
>> Herb the shims go on the 3/8 bolt that goes through th H tube so the flap
eron arms can swivel freely .
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> I do not recall them..what is the purpose? Herb
>>>
>>>> On 10/24/2016 09:36 AM, chris davis wrote:
>>>> Kolbers , On my Firefly construction Im told to cut two shims of 4130 7
/16 x 028 I believe they will be about 1/8 each or less I dont have any tubi
ng of that size laying around so i called Aircraft Spruce and they dont have
any either the thinnest wall that they have is .035 so i thought maybe some
one on the list might be able to send me a little piece by us mail wont cost
much for shipping so can anyone help me out?thank u Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Davis
>>>> KXP 503 492 hrs
>>>> Glider Pilot
>>>> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine demo
cracies give way to tyranny."
>>>
>>> Aristotle
>>>
>>> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation an
d what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" w
ho is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
>
> --
> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democr
acies give way to tyranny."
>
> Aristotle
>
> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and w
hat does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who
is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
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