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Wed 10/26/16


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 04:47 AM - Re: Re: Aileron trim and a new video (Patrick Ladd)
     2. 06:19 AM - Re: 7/16 x .028 shims (Herb)
     3. 07:06 AM - Re: 7/16 x .028 shims (chris davis)
     4. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: Aileron trim and a new video (Patrick Ladd)
     5. 07:25 AM - Re: Kolb Firestar 1... (chris davis)
     6. 08:35 AM - Re: Aileron trim and a new video (Rex Rodebush)
     7. 09:09 AM - Re: 7/16 x .028 shims (Herb)
     8. 09:18 AM - Re: Kolb Firestar 1... (Herb)
     9. 09:21 AM - Re: 7/16 x .028 shims (Herb)
    10. 03:15 PM - Re: 7/16 x .028 shims (chris davis)
    11. 08:34 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar 1... (wakataka)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:47:32 AM PST US
    From: Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Aileron trim and a new video
    Hi, I think that I would go for a properly designed amphib. rather than try to convert a Kolb. I can`t remember much about the Buccaneer, it was a long ti me ago but I remember it as a roomy side by side cockpit with easy access and good visibility. I think it had wing tip floats for stability when anch ored. They guy I stayed with had a wooden ramp from his land into Lake Wale s. He kept the plane parked on the ramp and when we were aboard he just too k off the brake and we trundled backward into the water. There was some qui ck work with a paddle to float us clear of the trees which surrounded the l ake. He turned into wind and pulled the starter cord and we gently nosed ou t into the lake. When the engine is running you gotta go. We did the checks as we nosed into wind, checked that there were no boats about, opened the throttle and bounced into the air after quite a short take off run. When we returned after a few circuits, and a beat up across the lake flat out at a round ten feet, great fun, we landed and taxied straight out of the water and up his ramp. Unfortunately the next day we could not get the engine sta rted and I never solo`d. I remember he had friends arriving by boat and pla ne from all over the lake , all offering advice, and beer, while we worked in the shade of a big tree. It was a great day and one of the best `hangar flying` days I ever had. The French amphib. I flew was twenty years later. It was designed by a bo at designer with aeronautical experience. Lots of things were operated by t oggles and ropes, just like a small sailing dinghy. The rudder retracted by pulling a toggle. The wheels dropped from their retracted position by pull ing a toggle. All very boaty. The main difference to the Bucanceer was that the main pod was cast in plastic not just fabric beefed up with a sole pl ate. The engine had an electric starter too. Altogether a more up together outfit but as I said it was at least twenty years later and things had mov ed on in the microlight world. I tried to get a flight with a guy who had put a Kolb on floats when I was down in the Keys at one time. Unfortunately, after a long drive to find him he had the plane in bits doing some maintenance. It looked as though it wo uld work OK and I remember seeing Kolbs on floats on you tube at one point but the drag caused by inflatable floats with little streamlining must have been tremendous. I did find a guy down in the Keys who had fitted a weightshift wing and eng ine to a rubber dinghy but although it looked fun I didn`t fancy it for ser ious flying. Your flying area is very attractive. Is the water warm enough to swim in? I should find it very frustrating if it was like San Francisco, where the wa ter looks so attractive but you need a diving suit to get in it. Good luck Pat ________________________________ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com <owner-kolb-list-server@matronic s.com> on behalf of Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> Sent: 25 October 2016 15:53:20 Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aileron trim and a new video Pat, I have looked at making it an amphibian. The main concerns I have ar e that with the extra weight and a full tank it pretty much becomes a singl e place airplane. Also, you need a paved or very smooth grass runway. You would give up many off field landing areas. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461605#461605


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    Time: 06:19:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 7/16 x .028 shims
    From: Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
    Chris Looking at the plans..it would be hard to tell if it is a piece of tubing or just a flat washer..:-) I think Kolb went to all .035 in the Firefly fuselage to standardize it to all the other models. I will check my stock...and let you know...If not..betting Bryan can send you a couple of pre cut shims...for shipping cost ...Herb On 10/25/2016 10:15 PM, chris davis wrote: > Yes herb I know what they are I was just trying to locate a piece of > tubing that size 7/16 x 028 as I said I don't have any and I call > aircraft spruce and they don't have any 7/16 with a wall that thin 035 > was the thinnest wall they sell so instead of buying a lot more than I > need somewhere else I thought perhaps someone on the list might have a > piece they could send me ? Get my drift? Thanks for the comeback if > no one else responds I guess I will look elsewhere or maybe even ask > Bryon at KOLB for a piece . Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com > <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote: > >> Chris >> >> Those are short pieces of tubing that fit over the h section >> through bolt..Just a bit longer than the actuation levers are >> wide...Herb >> >> >> On 10/25/2016 11:14 AM, chris davis wrote: >>> Herb the shims go on the 3/8 bolt that goes through th H tube so the >>> flaperon arms can swivel freely . >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com >>> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> I do not recall them..what is the purpose? Herb >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/24/2016 09:36 AM, chris davis wrote: >>>>> Kolbers , On my Firefly construction Im told to cut two shims of >>>>> 4130 7/16 x 028 I believe they will be about 1/8 each or less I >>>>> dont have any tubing of that size laying around so i called >>>>> Aircraft Spruce and they dont have any either the thinnest wall >>>>> that they have is .035 so i thought maybe someone on the list >>>>> might be able to send me a little piece by us mail wont cost much >>>>> for shipping so can anyone help me out?thank u Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Davis >>>>> KXP 503 492 hrs >>>>> Glider Pilot >>>>> Disabled from crash building Firefly >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." >>>> >>>> Aristotle >>>> >>>> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... >> >> -- >> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." >> >> Aristotle >> >> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...


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    Time: 07:06:20 AM PST US
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 7/16 x .028 shims
    Herb, I guess that I will try Bryan. According to my plans it is a piece of tubing and I have tried to find a washer that only has an outside diameter of 7/16 and would have an inside diameter of 3/8 to no avail so I guess I will try KOLB.Thanks for your input . Chris =C2-Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 9:24 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: Chris =C2- Looking at the plans..it would be hard to tell if it is a p iece of tubing or just a flat washer..:-)=C2-=C2-=C2- I think Kolb we nt to all .035 in the Firefly fuselage to standardize it to all the other m odels. I will check my stock...and let you know...If not..betting Bryan can send you a couple of pre cut shims...for shipping cost ...Herb =C2- On 10/25/2016 10:15 PM, chris davis wrote: Yes herb I know what they are I was just trying to locate a piece of tubin g that size 7/16 x 028 as I said I don't have any and I call aircraft spruc e and they don't have any 7/16 with a wall that thin 035 was the thinnest w all they sell so instead of buying a lot more than I need somewhere else I thought perhaps someone on the list might have a piece they could send me =C2-? Get my drift? Thanks for the comeback if no one else responds I gue ss I will look elsewhere or maybe even ask Bryon at KOLB for a piece . Chri s Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: Chris =C2- Those are short pieces of tubing that fit=C2- over the h s ection through bolt..Just a bit longer than the actuation levers are wide.. .Herb On 10/25/2016 11:14 AM, chris davis wrote: Herb the shims go on the 3/8 bolt that goes through th H tube so the flape ron arms can swivel freely .=C2- Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: Chris =C2- I do not recall them..what is the purpose?=C2- Herb On 10/24/2016 09:36 AM, chris davis wrote: Kolbers , On my Firefly construction Im told to cut two shims of 4130 7/1 6 x 028 I believe they will be about 1/8 each or less I dont have any tubin g of that size laying around so i called Aircraft Spruce and they dont have any either the thinnest wall that they have is .035 so i thought maybe so meone on the list might be able to send me a little piece by us mail wont c ost much for shipping so can anyone help me out?thank u Chris =C2- Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democra cies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and w hat does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" wh o is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democra cies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and w hat does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" wh o is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democra cies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and w hat does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" wh o is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...


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    Time: 07:15:30 AM PST US
    From: Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Aileron trim and a new video
    Rex, I missed your point about rough landing fields. Sorry that I cannot help th ere. As I said, the plane in Lake Wales when we flew it went straight from a ramp into the water. The next time I saw it, it was for sale at Sun n Fu n. The French amphib. I flew was from Vance-Meucon airfield to the sea and back. Vance had a single concrete runway on the edge of the town where the factory which built the plane was situated so the use of rough fields did n ot come up. I do remember however that the company was exporting 5 planes t o a missionary outfit in Africa where I would not expect landing strip to b e very good. For what its worth. Pat ________________________________ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com <owner-kolb-list-server@matronic s.com> on behalf of Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> Sent: 25 October 2016 15:53:20 Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aileron trim and a new video Pat, I have looked at making it an amphibian. The main concerns I have ar e that with the extra weight and a full tank it pretty much becomes a singl e place airplane. Also, you need a paved or very smooth grass runway. You would give up many off field landing areas. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461605#461605


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    Time: 07:25:41 AM PST US
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar 1...
    Herb Larry is right the KXP had & rib wings and a stronger drag strut to ma ke the Firestar able to use a 503 Rotax. Chris=C2-=C2-Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: pre 1990.... Herb On 10/25/2016 08:23 PM, Herb wrote: If I read it right...the one I am looking at is a KX...per 1990 maybe?=C2 - Herb On 10/25/2016 06:32 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe it was the first 7 rib firestar. Larry On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a KXP?=C2 - =C2-When were they built? =C2- And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the coil is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be mounted for a poi nts ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ... =C2- Any info would be appreciated...Herb ==== ==================== ========== = -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Kolb-List ==== ==================== ========== = FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com ==== ==================== ========== = WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com ==== ==================== ========== = b Site - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contr ibutio n ==== ==================== ========== = -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addr ess before sending. -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democra cies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and w hat does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" wh o is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democra cies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and w hat does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" wh o is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...


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    Time: 08:35:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aileron trim and a new video
    From: "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush@gmail.com>
    Pat, We are in Southern Missouri just about 10 miles north of Arkansas. The weather is warm and the lake temperature can get into the 80's during summer. No problem swimming. I have a neighbor (a retired airline pilot) that built an early kolb twinstar and put floats on it. He and a fellow pilot flew it on the Mississippi river near St. Louis. The floats were not amphibious. They hauled it back and forth. This was probably 15/20 years ago. I think he gave me a picture of it. I'll see if I can scan and attach it. Rex Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461639#461639


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    Time: 09:09:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 7/16 x .028 shims
    From: Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
    I went to my tubing stash and did not find anything...Herb On 10/26/2016 09:03 AM, chris davis wrote: > Herb, I guess that I will try Bryan. According to my plans it is a > piece of tubing and I have tried to find a washer that only has an > outside diameter of 7/16 and would have an inside diameter of 3/8 to > no avail so I guess I will try KOLB. > Thanks for your input . Chris > > > Chris Davis > KXP 503 492 hrs > Glider Pilot > Disabled from crash building Firefly > > > On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 9:24 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: > > > Chris > Looking at the plans..it would be hard to tell if it is a piece of > tubing or just a flat washer..:-) I think Kolb went to all .035 in > the Firefly fuselage to standardize it to all the other models. I will > check my stock...and let you know...If not..betting Bryan can send you > a couple of pre cut shims...for shipping cost ...Herb > > > On 10/25/2016 10:15 PM, chris davis wrote: >> Yes herb I know what they are I was just trying to locate a piece of >> tubing that size 7/16 x 028 as I said I don't have any and I call >> aircraft spruce and they don't have any 7/16 with a wall that thin >> 035 was the thinnest wall they sell so instead of buying a lot more >> than I need somewhere else I thought perhaps someone on the list >> might have a piece they could send me ? Get my drift? Thanks for the >> comeback if no one else responds I guess I will look elsewhere or >> maybe even ask Bryon at KOLB for a piece . Chris >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com >> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote: >> >>> Chris >>> Those are short pieces of tubing that fit over the h section >>> through bolt..Just a bit longer than the actuation levers are >>> wide...Herb >>> >>> On 10/25/2016 11:14 AM, chris davis wrote: >>>> Herb the shims go on the 3/8 bolt that goes through th H tube so >>>> the flaperon arms can swivel freely . >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com >>>> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> I do not recall them..what is the purpose? Herb >>>>> >>>>> On 10/24/2016 09:36 AM, chris davis wrote: >>>>>> Kolbers , On my Firefly construction Im told to cut two shims of >>>>>> 4130 7/16 x 028 I believe they will be about 1/8 each or less I >>>>>> dont have any tubing of that size laying around so i called >>>>>> Aircraft Spruce and they dont have any either the thinnest wall >>>>>> that they have is .035 so i thought maybe someone on the list >>>>>> might be able to send me a little piece by us mail wont cost much >>>>>> for shipping so can anyone help me out?thank u Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris Davis >>>>>> KXP 503 492 hrs >>>>>> Glider Pilot >>>>>> Disabled from crash building Firefly >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." >>>>> >>>>> Aristotle >>>>> >>>>> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... >>> >>> -- >>> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." >>> >>> Aristotle >>> >>> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... > > -- > "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." > > Aristotle > > "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... > > -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...


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    Time: 09:18:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar 1...
    From: Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
    This one has an odd 447..odd in that I have never seen one with a dual ign coil..and with an ign box below the carbs.. 5 rib wing...so a KX . Likely something from a motorcycle...? I read the history blurb on the Kolb site but could not get a good feel as to the age of a Firestar with the 5 rib wing..Herb On 10/26/2016 09:21 AM, chris davis wrote: > Herb Larry is right the KXP had & rib wings and a stronger drag strut > to make the Firestar able to use a 503 Rotax. Chris > Chris Davis > KXP 503 492 hrs > Glider Pilot > Disabled from crash building Firefly > > > On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: > > > pre 1990.... Herb > > On 10/25/2016 08:23 PM, Herb wrote: > If I read it right...the one I am looking at is a KX...per 1990 > maybe? Herb > > On 10/25/2016 06:32 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: >> It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe >> it was the first 7 rib firestar. >> Larry >> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com >> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote: >> >> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> >> >> >> I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is >> a KXP? When were they built? >> And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the >> coil is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be >> mounted for a points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ... >> Any info would be appreciated...Herb >> >> ==== ============================== = >> -List" rel="noreferrer" >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Kolb-List >> ==== ============================== = >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> <http://forums.matronics.com/> >> ==== ============================== = >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> <http://wiki.matronics.com/> >> ==== ============================== = >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contr >> ibution >> ==== ============================== = >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> /The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant >> of others./ >> / >> / >> /If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email >> address before sending./ > > -- > "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." > > Aristotle > > "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... > > -- > "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." > > Aristotle > > "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... > > -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...


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    Time: 09:21:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 7/16 x .028 shims
    From: Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
    Chris A bronze bushing might work? ACE hardware for one...Herb On 10/25/2016 10:15 PM, chris davis wrote: > Yes herb I know what they are I was just trying to locate a piece of > tubing that size 7/16 x 028 as I said I don't have any and I call > aircraft spruce and they don't have any 7/16 with a wall that thin 035 > was the thinnest wall they sell so instead of buying a lot more than I > need somewhere else I thought perhaps someone on the list might have a > piece they could send me ? Get my drift? Thanks for the comeback if > no one else responds I guess I will look elsewhere or maybe even ask > Bryon at KOLB for a piece . Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com > <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote: > >> Chris >> >> Those are short pieces of tubing that fit over the h section >> through bolt..Just a bit longer than the actuation levers are >> wide...Herb >> >> >> On 10/25/2016 11:14 AM, chris davis wrote: >>> Herb the shims go on the 3/8 bolt that goes through th H tube so the >>> flaperon arms can swivel freely . >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com >>> <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> I do not recall them..what is the purpose? Herb >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/24/2016 09:36 AM, chris davis wrote: >>>>> Kolbers , On my Firefly construction Im told to cut two shims of >>>>> 4130 7/16 x 028 I believe they will be about 1/8 each or less I >>>>> dont have any tubing of that size laying around so i called >>>>> Aircraft Spruce and they dont have any either the thinnest wall >>>>> that they have is .035 so i thought maybe someone on the list >>>>> might be able to send me a little piece by us mail wont cost much >>>>> for shipping so can anyone help me out?thank u Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Davis >>>>> KXP 503 492 hrs >>>>> Glider Pilot >>>>> Disabled from crash building Firefly >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." >>>> >>>> Aristotle >>>> >>>> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... >> >> -- >> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." >> >> Aristotle >> >> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... -- "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." Aristotle "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...


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    Time: 03:15:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 7/16 x .028 shims
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Herb I emailed Kolb and Bryan said he would send me some , thanks for your e ffort ..Chris Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: > > I went to my tubing stash and did not find anything...Herb > >> On 10/26/2016 09:03 AM, chris davis wrote: >> Herb, I guess that I will try Bryan. According to my plans it is a piece o f tubing and I have tried to find a washer that only has an outside diameter of 7/16 and would have an inside diameter of 3/8 to no avail so I guess I w ill try KOLB. >> Thanks for your input . Chris >> >> >> >> Chris Davis >> KXP 503 492 hrs >> Glider Pilot >> Disabled from crash building Firefly >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 9:24 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: >> >> >> Chris >> Looking at the plans..it would be hard to tell if it is a piece of tubi ng or just a flat washer..:-) I think Kolb went to all .035 in the Firefl y fuselage to standardize it to all the other models. I will check my stock. ..and let you know...If not..betting Bryan can send you a couple of pre cut s hims...for shipping cost ...Herb >> >> >>> On 10/25/2016 10:15 PM, chris davis wrote: >>> Yes herb I know what they are I was just trying to locate a piece of tub ing that size 7/16 x 028 as I said I don't have any and I call aircraft spru ce and they don't have any 7/16 with a wall that thin 035 was the thinnest w all they sell so instead of buying a lot more than I need somewhere else I t hought perhaps someone on the list might have a piece they could send me ? G et my drift? Thanks for the comeback if no one else responds I guess I will l ook elsewhere or maybe even ask Bryon at KOLB for a p iece . Chris >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Chris >>>> Those are short pieces of tubing that fit over the h section through bolt..Just a bit longer than the actuation levers are wide...Herb >>>> >>>>> On 10/25/2016 11:14 AM, chris davis wrote: >>>>> Herb the shims go on the 3/8 bolt that goes through th H tube so the f laperon arms can swivel freely . >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> I do not recall them..what is the purpose? Herb >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/24/2016 09:36 AM, chris davis wrote: >>>>>>> Kolbers , On my Firefly construction Im told to cut two shims of 413 0 7/16 x 028 I believe they will be about 1/8 each or less I dont have any t ubing of that size laying around so i called Aircraft Spruce and they dont h ave any either the thinnest wall that they have is .035 so i thought maybe s omeone on the list might be able to send me a little piece by us mail wont c ost much for shipping so can anyone help me out?thank u Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris Davis >>>>>>> KXP 503 492 hrs >>>>>>> Glider Pilot >>>>>>> Disabled from crash building Firefly >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine d emocracies give way to tyranny." >>>>>> >>>>>> Aristotle >>>>>> >>>>>> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? An d" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine dem ocracies give way to tyranny." >>>> >>>> Aristotle >>>> >>>> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation a nd what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... >> >> -- >> "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democ racies give way to tyranny." >> >> Aristotle >> >> "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" w ho is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter... >> >> > > -- > "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democr acies give way to tyranny." > > Aristotle > > "Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and w hat does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...


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    Time: 08:34:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar 1...
    From: "wakataka" <wakataka@charter.net>
    The snowmobile engines had a Ducati electronic ignition ignition with a single two-lead coil and a 'black box' that could be mounted in various places. It's a good system. I believe it has an electronic advance built in that makes the engine idle smoother. I know mine idled a lot smoother when I switched it from points to this set up. -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461652#461652




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