---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/16/16: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:06 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/15/16 (Keith Callfas) 2. 06:30 AM - Re: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing (west1m) 3. 08:58 AM - Parts for sale (Richard Pike) 4. 11:37 AM - Re: Parts for sale (Bill Berle) 5. 12:48 PM - Re: Parts for sale (Richard Pike) 6. 01:35 PM - Re: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing (Bill Berle) 7. 01:49 PM - Re: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing (John Hauck) 8. 02:00 PM - Re: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing (Bill Berle) 9. 02:06 PM - Kolb Firestar 2 kit For Sale (Bill Berle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:13 AM PST US From: Keith Callfas Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/15/16 QSA0NDcgd291bGQgYmUgYSBsb3Qgc2ltcGxlciAgIQ0K ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:45 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing From: "west1m" OK , So... why don't we get any pictures? -------- West1m Hastings, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=463967#463967 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Parts for sale From: "Richard Pike" Will be putting these items on ebay if you guys don't want them, but thought I would give you guys first crack. The 503 has 200 hours TT since new, the PTO end piston seized on initial break-in run and was taken to 1st oversize. No problems since. B box, 2.58:1, electric and recoil starters, includes a Warp Drive prop. Came off a Moni motor glider, so the prop has been shortened. Includes exhaust system, modified to fit the Moni. $1,000 plus shipping Bendix-King KX99 handheld. Battery holds a charge very well, includes the wall charger, $50 plus shipping Terra TPX720 handheld, modified to mount in the panel, runs off the 12V aircraft electrical system, no battery box or antenna included. Works good, but I upgraded to a newer radio. $50 plus shipping. Sensitive altimeter, works good, $50 plus shipping. Also have a canopy for a Moni Motorglider, any reasonable offer plus shipping. Do Not Archive. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Would you consider yourself to be a good person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464030#464030 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050553_medium_354.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050555_medium_127.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050556_medium_108.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050557_medium_409.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050558_medium_106.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050559_medium_587.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050561_medium_353.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:37:51 AM PST US From: Bill Berle Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Parts for sale Richard... do you still have the Moni? I really like that little airplane, have for 25 years. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/16/16, Richard Pike wrote: Subject: Kolb-List: Parts for sale To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, December 16, 2016, 8:58 AM "Richard Pike" Will be putting these items on ebay if you guys don't want them, but thought I would give you guys first crack. The 503 has 200 hours TT since new, the PTO end piston seized on initial break-in run and was taken to 1st oversize. No problems since. B box, 2.58:1, electric and recoil starters, includes a Warp Drive prop. Came off a Moni motor glider, so the prop has been shortened. Includes exhaust system, modified to fit the Moni. $1,000 plus shipping Bendix-King KX99 handheld. Battery holds a charge very well, includes the wall charger, $50 plus shipping Terra TPX720 handheld, modified to mount in the panel, runs off the 12V aircraft electrical system, no battery box or antenna included. Works good, but I upgraded to a newer radio. $50 plus shipping. Sensitive altimeter, works good, $50 plus shipping. Also have a canopy for a Moni Motorglider, any reasonable offer plus shipping. Do Not Archive. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Would you consider yourself to be a good person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464030#464030 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050553_medium_354.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050555_medium_127.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050556_medium_108.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050557_medium_409.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050558_medium_106.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050559_medium_587.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050561_medium_353.jpg Lists This Month -- Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) Raiser. Click on more about Gifts provided www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com www.mypilotstore.com www.mrrace.com -Matt Dralle, List Admin. Forum - - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - MATRONICS LIST WIKI - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:34 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Parts for sale From: "Richard Pike" Negative on the Moni. Just a canopy. But here is the muffler and prop for the 503 Do Not Archive -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Would you consider yourself to be a good person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464035#464035 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050564_medium_555.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050562_medium_560.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:39 PM PST US From: Bill Berle Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing John H and Kolbers, I realize full well that the oil cooler installation I described is "outside the box" and not common. You will have to trust me that I did NOT do it this way just to be a smart aleck (although I'm usually guilty of that too). My first idea with the cooler was exactly as John H described... vertically mounted at the rear of the fuselage cage. Would have been easy-peasy. But this created two problems. First it would require longer oil hoses to go back and forth between the cooler and the engine AND the oil tank. The HKS manual specifically suggests keeping the oil lines short. Second, the exhaust will be running through that same area right behind the cage. I wanted to keep any oil leakage or seeping from the cooler away from exhaust components for fire safety. More importantly, mounting the exhaust system directly behind the cooler would impede the outflow of air through the cooler, reducing the effectiveness of the cooler. Nothing would have made me happier than being able to mount the cooler to the airframe only. But the engine mounting structure/configuration of the Kolb was done with the Rotax 2 stroke engine in mind, and adapting another entire class of engine to it creates all sorts of problems. Another recent poster (and a whole lot of previous posts) was 100% right... leaving the 447 on it would have been much easier. But I have a good reason to want a 4 stroke engine, and I have to put my nose to the grindstone and do what it takes to do things right. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:49:13 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing I don't know that I fully understand the way you have mounted the oil cooler. How about posting some photos. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 3:34 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing John H and Kolbers, I realize full well that the oil cooler installation I described is "outside the box" and not common. You will have to trust me that I did NOT do it this way just to be a smart aleck (although I'm usually guilty of that too). My first idea with the cooler was exactly as John H described... vertically mounted at the rear of the fuselage cage. Would have been easy-peasy. But this created two problems. First it would require longer oil hoses to go back and forth between the cooler and the engine AND the oil tank. The HKS manual specifically suggests keeping the oil lines short. Second, the exhaust will be running through that same area right behind the cage. I wanted to keep any oil leakage or seeping from the cooler away from exhaust components for fire safety. More importantly, mounting the exhaust system directly behind the cooler would impede the outflow of air through the cooler, reducing the effectiveness of the cooler. Nothing would have made me happier than being able to mount the cooler to the airframe only. But the engine mounting structure/configuration of the Kolb was done with the Rotax 2 stroke engine in mind, and adapting another entire class of engine to it creates all sorts of problems. Another recent poster (and a whole lot of previous posts) was 100% right... leaving the 447 on it would have been much easier. But I have a good reason to want a 4 stroke engine, and I have to put my nose to the grindstone and do what it takes to do things right. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:00:33 PM PST US From: Bill Berle Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing Yeah, I figure I owe the group some photos after getting everyone all riled up again :) I will borrow a camera Saturday if I can't find mine. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/16/16, John Hauck wrote: Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, December 16, 2016, 1:49 PM "John Hauck" I don't know that I fully understand the way you have mounted the oil cooler. How about posting some photos. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 3:34 PM To: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Firestar 2 Progress, slow but continuing John H and Kolbers, I realize full well that the oil cooler installation I described is "outside the box" and not common. You will have to trust me that I did NOT do it this way just to be a smart aleck (although I'm usually guilty of that too). My first idea with the cooler was exactly as John H described... vertically mounted at the rear of the fuselage cage. Would have been easy-peasy. But this created two problems. First it would require longer oil hoses to go back and forth between the cooler and the engine AND the oil tank. The HKS manual specifically suggests keeping the oil lines short. Second, the exhaust will be running through that same area right behind the cage. I wanted to keep any oil leakage or seeping from the cooler away from exhaust components for fire safety. More importantly, mounting the exhaust system directly behind the cooler would impede the outflow of air through the cooler, reducing the effectiveness of the cooler. Nothing would have made me happier than being able to mount the cooler to the airframe only. But the engine mounting structure/configuration of the Kolb was done with the Rotax 2 stroke engine in mind, and adapting another entire class of engine to it creates all sorts of problems. Another recent poster (and a whole lot of previous posts) was 100% right... leaving the 447 on it would have been much easier. But I have a good reason to want a 4 stroke engine, and I have to put my nose to the grindstone and do what it takes to do things right. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities Lists This Month -- Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) Raiser. Click on more about Gifts provided www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com www.mypilotstore.com www.mrrace.com -Matt Dralle, List Admin. Forum - - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - MATRONICS LIST WIKI - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:11 PM PST US From: Bill Berle Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Firestar 2 kit For Sale This is a reminder for the Kolb group that I have a partially completed Firestar 2 kit project for sale. This can be sold with or without a low time Rotax 447. Had to promise the wife that if I bought a completed Firestar I would sell the kit project that I had been working on. I'd rather keep it and build it (was enjoying the build), but a promise is a promise... especially with a 12 gauge pointed at my head. Sell or trade. 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