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1. 09:34 AM - Merry Christmas from here to you!hope you got something to add to your planes. I got a new altimeter. (B Young)
2. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: Wing Tip Spads (Rick Neilsen)
3. 09:56 AM - Re: Re: Wing Tip Spads (John Hauck)
4. 10:03 AM - Re: Merry Christmas from here to you!hope you got something to add to your planes. I got a new altimeter. (John Hauck)
5. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: Wing Tip Spads (John Hauck)
6. 10:50 AM - Re: Merry Christmas from here to you!hope you got something to add to your planes. I got a new altimeter. (Bill Berle)
7. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: Wing Tip Spads (Larry Cottrell)
8. 11:48 AM - Re: Merry Christmas from here to you!hope you got something to add to your planes. I got a new altimeter. (chris davis)
9. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: Wing Tip Spads (James Swan)
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Richard
I appreciate the offer and have no doubt that your change works as you
describe but you may have missed my point of concern. When you are near
stall speed on takeoff and landing and you get into turbulence that can
spell disaster you might need every degree of aileron deflection that Homer
designed into our airplanes. I don't know that I have ever utilized full
aileron deflection but my Kolb got me through what mother nature threw at
me. It would have been a small consolation that is was easy to get to a
aileron control stop that didn't save me. Yes I want it all, balanced
controls, full defection and maybe no adverse yaw. But I can live with the
stock configuration.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net>
wrote:
>
> Rick, if you ever get anywhere near NE Tennessee, I hope you come and
> visit, I would love for you to fly my MKIII, I would consider it an honor.
> I reduced the aileron throw just a little, but the reduction in effort was
> remarkable. I think you would find the control authority to be
> non-compromised.
>
> Right now I am in the process of building a Firefly out of a wrecked
> original Firestar, and have built the aileron bellcrank so that we can find
> the "sweet spot" for rigging the ailerons. You might consider trying
> something similar, it is one of those things where if you try it and don't
> like it, you can put it back to where it was.
>
> Merry Christmas to all my friends on the Kolb List!
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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Don't know that I ever hit an aileron control stop in my MKIII, but did
once in the factory Firefly at Sun and Fun one rear during extremely
turbulent cross wind. Got my attention.
Changing mechanical advantage is good as long as you still have enough
lateral stick to get full deflection.
BTW: My MKIII ailerons are a little smaller than standard. Above 60
mph they start getting heavy. In turbulent situations where a lot of
aileron is required quickly, slow down around 50 or 60 and take care of
business.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Neilsen
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Tip Spads
Richard
I appreciate the offer and have no doubt that your change works as you
describe but you may have missed my point of concern. When you are near
stall speed on takeoff and landing and you get into turbulence that can
spell disaster you might need every degree of aileron deflection that
Homer designed into our airplanes. I don't know that I have ever
utilized full aileron deflection but my Kolb got me through what mother
nature threw at me. It would have been a small consolation that is was
easy to get to a aileron control stop that didn't save me. Yes I want it
all, balanced controls, full defection and maybe no adverse yaw. But I
can live with the stock configuration.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Richard Pike
<thegreybaron@charter.net> wrote:
<thegreybaron@charter.net>
Rick, if you ever get anywhere near NE Tennessee, I hope you come and
visit, I would love for you to fly my MKIII, I would consider it an
honor. I reduced the aileron throw just a little, but the reduction in
effort was remarkable. I think you would find the control authority to
be non-compromised.
Right now I am in the process of building a Firefly out of a wrecked
original Firestar, and have built the aileron bellcrank so that we can
find the "sweet spot" for rigging the ailerons. You might consider
trying something similar, it is one of those things where if you try it
and don't like it, you can put it back to where it was.
Merry Christmas to all my friends on the Kolb List!
--------
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Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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to add to your planes. I got a new altimeter.
Ho, ho, ho!
Thanks for all the presents, Santa, but I got nothing for my Kolb. ;-(
Merry Christmas to all my Kolb friends. Next month will be 19 years I
have been a member of this List. Sure could have used it back in the
beginning of my Kolb experience when there was no one around to ask for
help and share the building and flying experience. Soon to be 33 years
I have been a Kolb builder and flyer. My how time flies.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:33 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Merry Christmas from here to you!hope you got
something to add to your planes. I got a new altimeter.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Spads |
The first line of my message below should have read "year", not "rear"
;-)
Speaking of heavy ailerons, I complained to Homer once about those heavy
ailerons. He told me to be gentle. The airplane will turn.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Tip Spads
Don't know that I ever hit an aileron control stop in my MKIII, but did
once in the factory Firefly at Sun and Fun one rear during extremely
turbulent cross wind. Got my attention.
Changing mechanical advantage is good as long as you still have enough
lateral stick to get full deflection.
BTW: My MKIII ailerons are a little smaller than standard. Above 60
mph they start getting heavy. In turbulent situations where a lot of
aileron is required quickly, slow down around 50 or 60 and take care of
business.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Neilsen
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Tip Spads
Richard
I appreciate the offer and have no doubt that your change works as you
describe but you may have missed my point of concern. When you are near
stall speed on takeoff and landing and you get into turbulence that can
spell disaster you might need every degree of aileron deflection that
Homer designed into our airplanes. I don't know that I have ever
utilized full aileron deflection but my Kolb got me through what mother
nature threw at me. It would have been a small consolation that is was
easy to get to a aileron control stop that didn't save me. Yes I want it
all, balanced controls, full defection and maybe no adverse yaw. But I
can live with the stock configuration.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Richard Pike
<thegreybaron@charter.net> wrote:
<thegreybaron@charter.net>
Rick, if you ever get anywhere near NE Tennessee, I hope you come and
visit, I would love for you to fly my MKIII, I would consider it an
honor. I reduced the aileron throw just a little, but the reduction in
effort was remarkable. I think you would find the control authority to
be non-compromised.
Right now I am in the process of building a Firefly out of a wrecked
original Firestar, and have built the aileron bellcrank so that we can
find the "sweet spot" for rigging the ailerons. You might consider
trying something similar, it is one of those things where if you try it
and don't like it, you can put it back to where it was.
Merry Christmas to all my friends on the Kolb List!
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas from here to you!hope you got something |
to add to your planes. I got a new altimeter.
Merry Christmas and/or Happy Whatever Holiday you celebrate to all of my friends
on the Kolb list.
Thank you for your friendship and brotherhood, and for sharing our mutual interest
in this innovative and brilliant little aircraft.
Looking forward to a great new year in 2017, finally getting my HKS Firestar ready,
and getting to do some adventurous off-airport flying.
Can't speak for anyone else, but my 2017 will start getting noticeably better right
around January 20th...
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Sun, 12/25/16, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Merry Christmas from here to you!hope you got something to
add to your planes. I got a new altimeter.
To: "Kolb List" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Sunday, December 25, 2016, 9:33 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Spads |
Rick and John are both right. I have always attempted to squeeze all the
speed that I could out of my Firestar. Along with that comes increased
aileron pressure. Of course any modification requires one to be able to
accept the results for it to be effective. I tried moving the control arms
in to lessen the load. Perhaps I didn't give it enough of a try, but I soon
changed them back to original. John is right, when it gets rough, slow
down. While it will take longer to get out of it, the forces are
acceptable. I have gotten into the habit of using my knee to assist the
stick movements.
I once stalled at about 40 feet over the ground while doing "Too slow
flight". The right wing dropped to where it was pointing at the ground. The
ailerons were able to level me out and reduce the damage to the plane when
I hit.The extra forces are caused when we are not flying it as it is
intended to be flown. Now I have no intention of taking off the things that
allow me to cruise at 70 + MPH. I am willing to suffer the consequences.
Its all in what makes you happy.
Merry Christmas
Larry
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Don't know that I ever hit an aileron control stop in my MKIII, but did
> once in the factory Firefly at Sun and Fun one rear during extremely
> turbulent cross wind. Got my attention.
>
>
> Changing mechanical advantage is good as long as you still have enough
> lateral stick to get full deflection.
>
>
> BTW: My MKIII ailerons are a little smaller than standard. Above 60 mph
> they start getting heavy. In turbulent situations where a lot of aileron
> is required quickly, slow down around 50 or 60 and take care of business.
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-
> server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Neilsen
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:37 AM
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Tip Spads
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> I appreciate the offer and have no doubt that your change works as you
> describe but you may have missed my point of concern. When you are near
> stall speed on takeoff and landing and you get into turbulence that can
> spell disaster you might need every degree of aileron deflection that Homer
> designed into our airplanes. I don't know that I have ever utilized full
> aileron deflection but my Kolb got me through what mother nature threw at
> me. It would have been a small consolation that is was easy to get to a
> aileron control stop that didn't save me. Yes I want it all, balanced
> controls, full defection and maybe no adverse yaw. But I can live with the
> stock configuration.
>
>
> Rick Neilsen
>
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Rick, if you ever get anywhere near NE Tennessee, I hope you come and
> visit, I would love for you to fly my MKIII, I would consider it an honor.
> I reduced the aileron throw just a little, but the reduction in effort was
> remarkable. I think you would find the control authority to be
> non-compromised.
>
> Right now I am in the process of building a Firefly out of a wrecked
> original Firestar, and have built the aileron bellcrank so that we can find
> the "sweet spot" for rigging the ailerons. You might consider trying
> something similar, it is one of those things where if you try it and don't
> like it, you can put it back to where it was.
>
> Merry Christmas to all my friends on the Kolb List!
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464380#464380
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas from here to you!hope you got something |
to add to your planes. I got a new altimeter.
January 20th.good luck to you the country and the world ! Chris
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> On Dec 25, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> Merry Christmas and/or Happy Whatever Holiday you celebrate to all of my friends
on the Kolb list.
>
> Thank you for your friendship and brotherhood, and for sharing our mutual interest
in this innovative and brilliant little aircraft.
>
> Looking forward to a great new year in 2017, finally getting my HKS Firestar
ready, and getting to do some adventurous off-airport flying.
>
> Can't speak for anyone else, but my 2017 will start getting noticeably better
right around January 20th...
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 12/25/16, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Merry Christmas from here to you!hope you got something to
add to your planes. I got a new altimeter.
> To: "Kolb List" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Sunday, December 25, 2016, 9:33 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Spads |
TheFirestar ll that I purchased several years ago had aileronspades that c
ould be detached from the aileron and that was the case when I lookedat the
plane....the owner showed them to me ..they were I thought quite big andI
thought to myself that it made no sense to put such things on the aileronsa
nd put all that pressure on the hinges...so I left them thereat th
at time Iam not sure I knew what aileron spades were.....the selle
r was the 2nd ownerof the plane.....later on I talked with the builder of t
he plane and he saidthe spades worked excellent and that I should have take
n them.....afterspeaking with him I came away thinking he might know what h
e was talkingabout...
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 25, 2016 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Tip Spads
Rick and John are both right. I have always attempted to squeeze all the sp
eed that I could out of my Firestar. Along with that comes increased ailero
n pressure. Of course any modification requires one to be able to accept th
e results for it to be effective. I tried moving the control arms in to les
sen the load. Perhaps I didn't give it enough of a try, but I soon changed
them back to original. John is right, when it gets rough, slow down. While
it will take longer to get out of it, the forces are acceptable. I have got
ten into the habit of using my knee to assist the stick movements.
I once stalled at about 40 feet over the ground while doing "Too slow fligh
t". The right wing dropped to where it was pointing at the ground. The aile
rons were able to level me out and reduce the damage to the plane when I hi
t.The extra forces are caused when we are not flying it as it is intended t
o be flown. Now I have no intention of taking off the things that allow me
to cruise at 70 + MPH. I am willing to suffer the consequences. Its all in
what makes you happy.
Merry Christmas
Larry
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Don't know that I ever hit an aileron control stop in my MKIII, but did onc
e in the factory Firefly at Sun and Fun one rear during extremely turbulent
cross wind. Got my attention.
Changing mechanical advantage is good as long as you still have enough late
ral stick to get full deflection.
BTW: My MKIII ailerons are a little smaller than standard. Above 60 mph t
hey start getting heavy. In turbulent situations where a lot of aileron is
required quickly, slow down around 50 or 60 and take care of business.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Neilsen
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Tip Spads
Richard
I appreciate the offer and have no doubt that your change works as you desc
ribe but you may have missed my point of concern. When you are near stall s
peed on takeoff and landing and you get into turbulence that can spell disa
ster you might need every degree of aileron deflection that Homer designed
into our airplanes. I don't know that I have ever utilized full aileron def
lection but my Kolb got me through what mother nature threw at me. It would
have been a small consolation that is was easy to get to a aileron control
stop that didn't save me. Yes I want it all, balanced controls, full defec
tion and maybe no adverse yaw. But I can live with the stock configuration.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net> w
rote:
Rick, if you ever get anywhere near NE Tennessee, I hope you come and visit
, I would love for you to fly my MKIII, I would consider it an honor. I red
uced the aileron throw just a little, but the reduction in effort was remar
kable. I think you would find the control authority to be non-compromised.
Right now I am in the process of building a Firefly out of a wrecked origin
al Firestar, and have built the aileron bellcrank so that we can find the "
sweet spot" for rigging the ailerons. You might consider trying something s
imilar, it is one of those things where if you try it and don't like it, yo
u can put it back to where it was.
Merry Christmas to all my friends on the Kolb List!
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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