---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/27/16: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:27 AM - hot box (mojavjoe@comcast.net) 2. 03:05 PM - Re: hot box (Richard Pike) 3. 04:02 PM - Miss P'fer Flies (John Hauck) 4. 04:09 PM - Miss P'fer Flies (pcking) 5. 05:08 PM - Re: Miss P'fer Flies (John Hauck) 6. 06:13 PM - Re: Miss P'fer Flies (David Kulp) 7. 07:50 PM - Re: Miss P'fer Flies (John Hauck) 8. 09:04 PM - Re: Miss P'fer Flies (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:34 AM PST US From: mojavjoe@comcast.net Subject: Kolb-List: hot box Hi guys; I'm starting to run wires from the back of the fuselage to my instrument pod. I remember seeing examples of hot boxes on the list. Could some of you provide me with photos of your installation and a source for the box it self. thanks. Joe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:31 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: hot box From: "Richard Pike" Originally on the FSII, we had the Hot Box under the left side of the passenger seat. http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/FSII%20Hot%20Box.html After the rebuild, the passenger seat was left out and converted to the fuel tank tray, but the Hot Box went back into the same place. http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/Fuel_tanks_storage.html Something we are doing on the Firefly we are building is welding 4 tabs to the underside of the extreme forward fuselage adjacent to where your heels rest on the fiberglass so that rather than riveting the nose bowl on, it will be just bolted on using four bolts to the bottom tubes, plus the original tabs on the two upper side tubes. We will be using R/C airplane quick disconnects in the harness right at the rear of the nose bowl. That way, if we ever need to get up behind the panel and play fix the instruments, all we have to do is unscrew 6 bolts and disconnect the wires, and we can do it on the workbench rather than do it on the airplane. Might be an option to think about... Trying to lay your rib cage on the side tube whilst sticking your head up under the panel is a really poor option. Guess how I know this? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Would you consider yourself to be a good person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464435#464435 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050576_medium_434.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:30 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Miss P'fer Flies Sent the afternoon with my MKIII today. Have had so much other stuff going on I haven't had time to spend on and with my airplane. She hadn't flown since June. Lots of barn dust, bug and bird crap. Plus.....mice have been getting in again. ;-( When I opened the door I smelled urine. Yuck! I looked best I could and did not see any damage. I don't think they squatted very long based on the number of mouse turds. I had topped off the fuel tank with 25 gals of 100LL last June. A leaking drain valve took care of 15 gals. Replaced the drain valve with one that will not leak. It is made of brass. I have used Briggs and Stratton plastic valves for years and gotten good service out of them. Never a problem. When I changed out neoprene fuel lines a few years ago I also replaced both drain valves. Guess they don't make them like they used to. After I got the fuel problem fixed, I dropped both float bowls. They were both dry and clean. There was evidence maybe a drop of two of water has been in each. After an airplane has sit up for a while the float bowls should always be checked. Main jets are small on the 912's. Doesn't take much to upset them. Not checking float bowls was a contributing factor in Norm Labhart's engine failure. I have a Hawker Odyssey battery that is 10 or 11 years old. The little two watt Solar Pulse battery charger/maintainer has kept the battery charged for 7 months. Hit the starter and got a start about the second blade, not revolution. Ran the engine about 15 minutes, 5 minutes at full power. Mag check was good. I was satisfied the engine would continue to produce power. Flew about 15 minutes. Stayed around the patch in case I did have an engine out. All performed perfect. I made one good landing and put her back in the hanger. By the time I got on the ground a big dark cloud I had been watching arrived. Timed it just right without getting wet. Made me feel a lot better getting back in my airplane and back in the air. The attached photo was taken 15 March 1992, Miss P'fer's first flight. Take care, john h mkIII - 3,380.0 hours 912ULS - 811.5 hours Gant International Airport Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:05 PM PST US From: "pcking" Subject: Kolb-List: Miss P'fer Flies Miss P'fer Flies John, I never tire of seeing pictures of Miss P'fer. That is one good looking airplane. Peter King ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 7:00 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Miss P'fer Flies Sent the afternoon with my MKIII today. Have had so much other stuff going on I haven't had time to spend on and with my airplane. She hadn't flown since June. Lots of barn dust, bug and bird crap. Plus.....mice have been getting in again. ;-( When I opened the door I smelled urine. Yuck! I looked best I could and did not see any damage. I don't think they squatted very long based on the number of mouse turds. I had topped off the fuel tank with 25 gals of 100LL last June. A leaking drain valve took care of 15 gals. Replaced the drain valve with one that will not leak. It is made of brass. I have used Briggs and Stratton plastic valves for years and gotten good service out of them. Never a problem. When I changed out neoprene fuel lines a few years ago I also replaced both drain valves. Guess they don't make them like they used to. After I got the fuel problem fixed, I dropped both float bowls. They were both dry and clean. There was evidence maybe a drop of two of water has been in each. After an airplane has sit up for a while the float bowls should always be checked. Main jets are small on the 912's. Doesn't take much to upset them. Not checking float bowls was a contributing factor in Norm Labhart's engine failure. I have a Hawker Odyssey battery that is 10 or 11 years old. The little two watt Solar Pulse battery charger/maintainer has kept the battery charged for 7 months. Hit the starter and got a start about the second blade, not revolution. Ran the engine about 15 minutes, 5 minutes at full power. Mag check was good. I was satisfied the engine would continue to produce power. Flew about 15 minutes. Stayed around the patch in case I did have an engine out. All performed perfect. I made one good landing and put her back in the hanger. By the time I got on the ground a big dark cloud I had been watching arrived. Timed it just right without getting wet. Made me feel a lot better getting back in my airplane and back in the air. The attached photo was taken 15 March 1992, Miss P'fer's first flight. Take care, john h mkIII - 3,380.0 hours 912ULS - 811.5 hours Gant International Airport Titus, Alabama <<...>> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:29 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Miss P'fer Flies Peter King: Thanks for the compliment. I'll pass it on to Miss P'fer. ;-) john h From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pcking Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 6:08 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Miss P'fer Flies John, I never tire of seeing pictures of Miss P'fer. That is one good looking airplane. Peter King ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 7:00 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Miss P'fer Flies Sent the afternoon with my MKIII today. Have had so much other stuff going on I haven't had time to spend on and with my airplane. She hadn't flown since June. Lots of barn dust, bug and bird crap. Plus.....mice have been getting in again. ;-( When I opened the door I smelled urine. Yuck! I looked best I could and did not see any damage. I don't think they squatted very long based on the number of mouse turds. I had topped off the fuel tank with 25 gals of 100LL last June. A leaking drain valve took care of 15 gals. Replaced the drain valve with one that will not leak. It is made of brass. I have used Briggs and Stratton plastic valves for years and gotten good service out of them. Never a problem. When I changed out neoprene fuel lines a few years ago I also replaced both drain valves. Guess they don't make them like they used to. After I got the fuel problem fixed, I dropped both float bowls. They were both dry and clean. There was evidence maybe a drop of two of water has been in each. After an airplane has sit up for a while the float bowls should always be checked. Main jets are small on the 912's. Doesn't take much to upset them. Not checking float bowls was a contributing factor in Norm Labhart's engine failure. I have a Hawker Odyssey battery that is 10 or 11 years old. The little two watt Solar Pulse battery charger/maintainer has kept the battery charged for 7 months. Hit the starter and got a start about the second blade, not revolution. Ran the engine about 15 minutes, 5 minutes at full power. Mag check was good. I was satisfied the engine would continue to produce power. Flew about 15 minutes. Stayed around the patch in case I did have an engine out. All performed perfect. I made one good landing and put her back in the hanger. By the time I got on the ground a big dark cloud I had been watching arrived. Timed it just right without getting wet. Made me feel a lot better getting back in my airplane and back in the air. The attached photo was taken 15 March 1992, Miss P'fer's first flight. Take care, john h mkIII - 3,380.0 hours 912ULS - 811.5 hours Gant International Airport Titus, Alabama <<...>> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:49 PM PST US From: David Kulp Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Miss P'fer Flies John, I put moth balls by all three wheels and never had a problem with mice boarding my FF. After I flew I parked it exactly same place. FWIW. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On December 27, 2016 7:07:53 PM "John Hauck" wrote: > Sent the afternoon with my MKIII today. Have had so much other stuff going > on I haven't had time to spend on and with my airplane. > > She hadn't flown since June. Lots of barn dust, bug and bird crap. > Plus.....mice have been getting in again. ;-( When I opened the door I > smelled urine. Yuck! I looked best I could and did not see any damage. I > don't think they squatted very long based on the number of mouse turds. > > I had topped off the fuel tank with 25 gals of 100LL last June. A leaking > drain valve took care of 15 gals. Replaced the drain valve with one that > will not leak. It is made of brass. I have used Briggs and Stratton > plastic valves for years and gotten good service out of them. Never a > problem. When I changed out neoprene fuel lines a few years ago I also > replaced both drain valves. Guess they don't make them like they used to. > > After I got the fuel problem fixed, I dropped both float bowls. They were > both dry and clean. There was evidence maybe a drop of two of water has > been in each. After an airplane has sit up for a while the float bowls > should always be checked. Main jets are small on the 912's. Doesn't take > much to upset them. Not checking float bowls was a contributing factor in > Norm Labhart's engine failure. > > I have a Hawker Odyssey battery that is 10 or 11 years old. The little two > watt Solar Pulse battery charger/maintainer has kept the battery charged for > 7 months. Hit the starter and got a start about the second blade, not > revolution. Ran the engine about 15 minutes, 5 minutes at full power. Mag > check was good. I was satisfied the engine would continue to produce power. > Flew about 15 minutes. Stayed around the patch in case I did have an engine > out. All performed perfect. I made one good landing and put her back in > the hanger. By the time I got on the ground a big dark cloud I had been > watching arrived. Timed it just right without getting wet. > > Made me feel a lot better getting back in my airplane and back in the air. > > The attached photo was taken 15 March 1992, Miss P'fer's first flight. > > Take care, > > john h > mkIII - 3,380.0 hours > 912ULS - 811.5 hours > Gant International Airport > Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:51 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Miss P'fer Flies From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Kulp Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:13 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Miss P'fer Flies John, I put moth balls by all three wheels and never had a problem with mice boarding my FF. After I flew I parked it exactly same place. FWIW. David K: Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try. john h ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:34 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Miss P'fer Flies From: "Richard Pike" Good on ya! The exhaust manifold gaskets on the FSII had been leaking all sorts of mung, changed them out this afternoon. Supposed to be clear, calm and in the 50's tomorrow, hoping to get the MKIII and the FSII out and chase each other around for a while. Good to do that sort of stuff this time of year! -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Would you consider yourself to be a good person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464446#464446 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.