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2. 08:03 AM - Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends (Richard Pike)
3. 11:29 AM - Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends (K I)
4. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends (K I)
5. 07:32 PM - Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends (Richard Girard)
6. 08:32 PM - Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends (Richard Pike)
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Subject: | Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends |
Richard;
You wouldn't have had to trim your cable ends if you had used this little trick.
It's called spin welding, and it starts by rough cutting the wire cable aprox.
6in. longer than needed, and then clamping vice grips at the point you want
the cable to end. Next chuck a drill set to its lowest speed setting to the rigged
end of the cable. Since wire cable can be wound clock wise or counter clock
wise set the drill to forward or reverse so the drill will tighten the wire.
Insure the vice grips will not move (put a brick on them or clamp in a vice).
Next heat the wire close to the vice grip jaws to red hot with a torch slowly
tighten the wire with the drill while pulling the drill away. The wire will
break with the ends fused. Sometimes there might be a wire end or two sticking
out of the weld but a file will take care of that.
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:22:28 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Trimming raggedy cable ends
Spent a few minutes in the garage this afternoon, and this worked so well it needed
sharing.
Had a set of used rudder & elevator cables that we are going to be using in the
Firefly, they are in good shape except that the ends are pretty ratty. How to
trim them off without taking a chance on nicking them?
Use a round x-acto knife blade. Used a screwdriver to spread the blade tang so
it would slip over the cable. Work the tapered edge up against the swedge. Clamp
the sheet metal vise grips in the vise, used them to hold the cable, and hold
the blade tight against the swedge. Used the cut-off wheel on the Dremel and
buzzed off the raggedy wires.
Easier to do than tell about. Did all four wires in about ten minutes.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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Subject: | Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends |
Joe, I don't think I would do that. Looking up the latest version of Acceptable
Methods and Practices:
https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentID/99861
The part about control cables and heat:
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/Chapter_07.pdf
7-147.b - it says not to use a torch under any circumstances. I use a well-sharpened
chisel, set the cable on a heavy steel dolly, and smack it with a big hammer.
Cuts it off clean every time, and then slip a length of heat shrink tubing
over the cable before you swedge it. then shrink it to cover
Since this cable came from a different Firestar, it was a case of someone else
making it up, and me just trying to make it convenient.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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Subject: | Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends |
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Subject: | Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends |
Hi Richard,
The easiest way I found to cut strand cables without having them unravel is to
use masking tape around the cable before the cut begins. Then use a dermal with
a metal cutting disk to sever the cable. That way it does not unravel and remains
in the current condition it was in when you put the tape on it.
Kurt,
Mark III Classic
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 24, 2017, at 09:08, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
> Joe, I don't think I would do that. Looking up the latest version of Acceptable
Methods and Practices:
>
> https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentID/99861
>
> The part about control cables and heat:
>
> https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/Chapter_07.pdf
>
> 7-147.b - it says not to use a torch under any circumstances. I use a well-sharpened
chisel, set the cable on a heavy steel dolly, and smack it with a big
hammer. Cuts it off clean every time, and then slip a length of heat shrink tubing
over the cable before you swedge it. then shrink it to cover
>
> Since this cable came from a different Firestar, it was a case of someone else
making it up, and me just trying to make it convenient.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465399#465399
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends |
Or, you could get one of these:
https://smile.amazon.com/Felco-C7-wire-cutter-ea/dp/B0006229UQ/ref=sr_1_1
?ie=UTF8&qid=1485314793&sr=8-1&keywords=felco+cable+cutters
I don't remember what I paid for mine 45 years ago, but back then I was
making about $2.50 an hour so I'm sure it wasn't $60. Still they cut like
they did when they were new so I guess a quality tool does last a lifetime.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, K I <wrk2win4u@msn.com> wrote:
> Richard,
>
> Use a Dremel with a mini cutting blade for metal. Use just a little
> masking tape around the strand before you make the cut. Simply zip
> through all the strands without disturbing them and unraveling them.
>
> Kurt
> Mark III classic
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 24, 2017, at 06:20, "mojavjoe@comcast.net" <mojavjoe@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> Richard;
>
> You wouldn't have had to trim your cable ends if you had used this little
> trick. It's called spin welding, and it starts by rough cutting the wir
e
> cable aprox. 6in. longer than needed, and then clamping vice grips at the
> point you want the cable to end. Next chuck a drill set to its lowest spe
ed
> setting to the rigged end of the cable. Since wire cable can be wound clo
ck
> wise or counter clock wise set the drill to forward or reverse so the dri
ll
> will tighten the wire. Insure the vice grips will not move (put a brick o
n
> them or clamp in a vice). Next heat the wire close to the vice grip jaws
to
> red hot with a torch slowly tighten the wire with the drill while pulling
> the drill away. The wire will break with the ends fused. Sometimes there
> might be a wire end or two sticking out of the weld but a file will take
> care of that.
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
> *To: *"kolb-list" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:22:28 PM
> *Subject: *Kolb-List: Trimming raggedy cable ends
>
>
>
> Spent a few minutes in the garage this afternoon, and this worked so well
> it needed sharing.
> Had a set of used rudder & elevator cables that we are going to be using
> in the Firefly, they are in good shape except that the ends are pretty
> ratty. How to trim them off without taking a chance on nicking them?
>
> Use a round x-acto knife blade. Used a screwdriver to spread the blade
> tang so it would slip over the cable. Work the tapered edge up against th
e
> swedge. Clamp the sheet metal vise grips in the vise, used them to hold t
he
> cable, and hold the blade tight against the swedge. Used the cut-off whee
l
> on the Dremel and buzzed off the raggedy wires.
>
> Easier to do than tell about. Did all four wires in about ten minutes.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> There are only two kinds of people in the world. Those who say to God;
> "Thy will be done."
> And those to whom God says ; "OK then; have it your way."
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465319#465319
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/xactojpg_117.jpg
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/beforejpg_165.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/afte===
>
>
--
=9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D
Groucho Marx
<http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/43244.Groucho_Marx>
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Subject: | Re: Trimming raggedy cable ends |
Kurt - Rick - Joe - Thank you for your ideas. But the original control cables from
the original Firestar we got were destroyed, so we trashed them and kept the
cables from the FSII basket case / kit that we sold, these are the cables pictured.
These cables are what we are going to use in our do-it-yourself Firefly.
These cables are all fuzzed, and the point of this post was to help someone
whose cables are also fuzzed.
Your ideas are great for someone making up cables from scratch. Great ideas. (Except
for the torch. Not so sure about the torch)
Thanks
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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