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1. 02:06 PM - Re: second chantz chutes (flywithme)
2. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: second chantz chutes (william sullivan)
3. 02:55 PM - Hobbs meter? (Richard Pike)
4. 03:09 PM - Re: Hobbs meter? (Herb)
5. 03:18 PM - Re: Hobbs meter? (John Hauck)
6. 03:29 PM - Re: Hobbs meter? (John Hauck)
7. 04:01 PM - Re: Hobbs meter? (George Alexander)
8. 04:10 PM - Re: Hobbs meter? (B Young)
9. 06:07 PM - Re: Hobbs meter? (Richard Pike)
10. 06:39 PM - Re: Re: Hobbs meter? (Charlie England)
11. 07:08 PM - Re: Hobbs meter? (Richard Pike)
12. 08:28 PM - Re: Re: Hobbs meter? (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Re: second chantz chutes |
I think since he has used email and is across state lines and you mailed him a
check that he cashed you can involve the US Postal inspector. and they Will get
his attention. i had to do this once on an Ebay fraud and it worked.
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| Subject: | Re: second chantz chutes |
Agreed. postal inspectors don't have a sense of humor.
do not archive
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On Fri, 2/24/17, flywithme <constrjh@pldi.net> wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: second chantz chutes
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Friday, February 24, 2017, 5:06 PM
"flywithme" <constrjh@pldi.net>
I think since he has used email and is across state lines
and you mailed him a check that he cashed you can
involve the US Postal inspector. and they Will get his
attention. i had to do this once on an Ebay fraud and
it worked.
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Not planning any electrical system for the Firefly, but would like to hook up a
Hobbs meter. We already have one that came with the wreck that shows the actual
time of the 447, and our current panel has a cutout for it.
But I do not know how to make it work w/o a 12V system. Anybody know how?
Here's a couple pictures - engine is on the mounts, piddling with the panel. Pictures
are not that great. At least they are not too big...
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs meter? |
Hey Richard...
Looking super!! Mig or tig? Herb
On 02/24/2017 04:55 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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> Not planning any electrical system for the Firefly, but would like to hook up
a Hobbs meter. We already have one that came with the wreck that shows the actual
time of the 447, and our current panel has a cutout for it.
> But I do not know how to make it work w/o a 12V system. Anybody know how?
>
> Here's a couple pictures - engine is on the mounts, piddling with the panel.
Pictures are not that great. At least they are not too big...
>
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> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
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If it is an actual Hobbs Hour Meter it should be good for 112 to 60 vdc.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 4:55 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Hobbs meter?
--> <thegreybaron@charter.net>
Not planning any electrical system for the Firefly, but would like to hook
up a Hobbs meter. We already have one that came with the wreck that shows
the actual time of the 447, and our current panel has a cutout for it.
But I do not know how to make it work w/o a 12V system. Anybody know how?
Here's a couple pictures - engine is on the mounts, piddling with the panel.
Pictures are not that great. At least they are not too big...
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
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Had a typo in my last msg.
Should have read 12-60vdc.
john
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Hobbs meter?
If it is an actual Hobbs Hour Meter it should be good for 112 to 60 vdc.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 4:55 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Hobbs meter?
--> <thegreybaron@charter.net>
Not planning any electrical system for the Firefly, but would like to hook
up a Hobbs meter. We already have one that came with the wreck that shows
the actual time of the 447, and our current panel has a cutout for it.
But I do not know how to make it work w/o a 12V system. Anybody know how?
Here's a couple pictures - engine is on the mounts, piddling with the panel.
Pictures are not that great. At least they are not too big...
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs meter? |
Richard Pike wrote:
> (SNIP)Not planning any electrical system for the Firefly, but would like to hook
up a Hobbs meter. (SNIP)
>
> But I do not know how to make it work w/o a 12V system. Anybody know how?
>
Richard:
Can't remember the size/value, but I had a setup like you want using a small diode/rectifier
(from Radio Shack) and picked up the lighting coil. Like John Hauck
said, the Hobbs doesn't require a precise voltage level or pure DC.
Worth what you paid for it as always....
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FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs meter? |
Look for a battery powered Timer
Boyd
On Feb 24, 2017 3:57 PM, "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net> wrote:
>
> Not planning any electrical system for the Firefly, but would like to hook
> up a Hobbs meter. We already have one that came with the wreck that shows
> the actual time of the 447, and our current panel has a cutout for it.
> But I do not know how to make it work w/o a 12V system. Anybody know how?
>
> Here's a couple pictures - engine is on the mounts, piddling with the
> panel. Pictures are not that great. At least they are not too big...
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466606#466606
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050711_medium_436.jpg
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs meter? |
Neglected to mention in the original post that this is the original 1985 model
447 that came with a new (1985) Firestar back in the day, so it has the single
points ignition/lighting coil/charging coil.
Also - since the earlier post, started cutting apart the original wiring harness
and discovered a diode with obvious connectors that would hook up to the Hobbs/hour
meter. I am guessing I would attach those to the charging coil rather
than the lighting coil, because all I want is the pulse, and not a lot of voltage.
Also, I assume that if I hook it up to the hour meter and nothing happens,
since it is a diode, all I need to do is swap the connectors?
Thanks for all the help so far!
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs meter? |
On 2/24/2017 8:07 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Neglected to mention in the original post that this is the original 1985 model
447 that came with a new (1985) Firestar back in the day, so it has the single
points ignition/lighting coil/charging coil.
> Also - since the earlier post, started cutting apart the original wiring harness
and discovered a diode with obvious connectors that would hook up to the Hobbs/hour
meter. I am guessing I would attach those to the charging coil rather
than the lighting coil, because all I want is the pulse, and not a lot of voltage.
Also, I assume that if I hook it up to the hour meter and nothing happens,
since it is a diode, all I need to do is swap the connectors?
> Thanks for all the help so far!
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Richard,
I can't really see what model you've got, but all the actual Hobbs
meters I've ever played with are simple clocks, that run when you apply
voltage (for instance, through an oil pressure switch, or a landing gear
'squat switch'). Are you thinking about something like a Tiny Tach,
that has its own battery but senses ignition pulses?
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs meter? |
Tiny Tach is great, I have one on my MKIII, but it is bigger than a Hobbs, and
we need something to cover the hole where the original Hobbs was in the panel.
No way the Tiny Tach will fit. Not to mention that I would need to figure out
how to add 216 hours to it....
Talked to the original owner of our Firestar a while ago, and he seemed to remember
that he got that diode from Kolb, and they told him how to hook it up. But
he wasn't sure... (Grin)
Will try hooking the Hobbs up to the charging coil, through the diode, and see
what happens.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs meter? |
I didn't think that was a pic of a Tiny Tach, but I wondered if your
mixing up how the two devices function.
Good luck with it,
Charlie
On 2/24/2017 9:08 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Tiny Tach is great, I have one on my MKIII, but it is bigger than a Hobbs, and
we need something to cover the hole where the original Hobbs was in the panel.
No way the Tiny Tach will fit. Not to mention that I would need to figure out
how to add 216 hours to it....
> Talked to the original owner of our Firestar a while ago, and he seemed to remember
that he got that diode from Kolb, and they told him how to hook it up.
But he wasn't sure... (Grin)
> Will try hooking the Hobbs up to the charging coil, through the diode, and see
what happens.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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