Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:15 AM - ADS-B Out (Nick Cassara)
2. 05:58 AM - Re: ADS-B Out (Hoppy)
3. 06:08 AM - Re: ADS-B Out (John Hauck)
4. 06:46 AM - Info. On MZ201/M202 (George Helton)
5. 06:56 AM - Re: Info. On MZ201/M202 (Hoppy)
6. 07:11 AM - Re: ADS-B Out (Charlie England)
7. 07:33 AM - Re: Info. On MZ201/M202 (william sullivan)
8. 07:52 AM - Re: ADS-B Out (Hoppy)
9. 09:43 AM - Re: ADS-B Out (Charlie England)
10. 10:02 AM - Re: ADS-B Out (Hoppy)
11. 10:21 AM - Re: MZ201/M202 (Bill Berle)
12. 11:53 AM - Re: ADS-B Out (Charlie England)
13. 03:51 PM - Re: MZ201/M202 (George Helton)
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Kolbers,
I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there Kolb
yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of so
far.
I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at Fun in
the Sun.
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
607AK
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I figure there are guys on the list who are way ahead of me on this
application...?
I have likely said this before but I am playing with adsb...receive only
on a Nexus 7 with a NooElec nesdr t2. I have never taken it outdoors
to get signals but seems to work software wise.. I use Avare navigation
which is free along with Avare adsb app, also free.
Nexus runs android software ...The nexus was 50 bucks at a pawn
shop..The dongle (noo elec software defined radio) was 19 bucks.. I
think they are available for less..? I find Amazon to be the priciest
..so I usually buy from Ebay...specify free shipping and US location..
Should receive adsb and weather... One possible problem is the drain
on the tablet battery...I bought an usb , self powered, extender at an
Amazon outlet for 5 bucks...flying, it will require conversion from 12
to 5 volts.. A three terminal regulator and a couple of capacitors
work...but likely those devices are available from "big Red" for a few
bucks..
Naturally this sort of device and its multiple usages are all over
youtube. Some fellows are repackaging the whole kit and caboodle and
asking big bucks for them... Hardware is cheap so it is all in the
software... Glass cockpits use the same or similar hardware. But want
10k or better for their brew.. and they use much the same hardware...
By now there should be total engine management as well as flight
instrument replacement software and hardware for a Tablet ...The
interface to egt,cht,oil pressure,etc can be made with a 7 dollar micro
computer..called the Arduino...for it and the Raspberry Pi (35 bucks)
have multiple analog inputs for sensors . The flight instruments (less
airspeed) can be accomplished with a device the size of a postage stamp
called a 9dof(degrees of freedom) 10 bucks.. it has an altimeter
chip,magnetometer,gyro...The Arduino is the size of a credit card.. 7
bucks... Both computers have a serial port that interfaces to the 9DOF.
Should be fairly easy to tie the computer to aileron, and elevator trim
for some sort of wing leveling to relax the work load on cross
countries.. A large three wire , model airplane, servo would work..
Still looking for a Firefly or Firestar re builder... Herb
On 04/07/2017 02:03 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
>
> Kolbers,
>
> I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there
Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of
so far.
> I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at Fun
in the Sun.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Nick Cassara
>
> Palmer, Alaska
>
> 607AK
>
>
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Nick C/Kolbers:
Two problems with your request below.
-I didn't make it to S&F.
-At Gantt International Airport there is no ADSB requirement. Therefore I have
not paid much attention to it. Have no idea what the equipment looks like or
what the requirements are for installing and use.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Cassara
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 2:03 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out
Kolbers,
I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there Kolb
yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of so
far.
I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at Fun in
the Sun.
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
607AK
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| Subject: | Info. On MZ201/M202 |
I just thought that I'd start a thread concerning the MZ201 and MZ202 engines.
If someone on the Kolb-list might have some experience with these engines mounted
and flown on Kolbs. I'm considering an MZ201 for my Firestar MK1.
George H.
Firestar, #FS100
14GDH
gdhelton@gmail.com
Mesick, Michigan
Have a great day!
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| Subject: | Re: Info. On MZ201/M202 |
Where is Jack Hart when we need him.. ??
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly.html
Herb
On 04/07/2017 08:39 AM, George Helton wrote:
>
> I just thought that I'd start a thread concerning the MZ201 and MZ202 engines.
If someone on the Kolb-list might have some experience with these engines mounted
and flown on Kolbs. I'm considering an MZ201 for my Firestar MK1.
> George H.
> Firestar, #FS100
> 14GDH
> gdhelton@gmail.com
> Mesick, Michigan
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Info. On MZ201/M202 |
Has anyone heard from Jack Hart? His notes on lightening his Firefly are invaluable
to anyone building one.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
<herbgh@nctc.com>
Where is Jack Hart when we need him..
??
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly.html
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With the powered usb hub...should not be a large problem...Herb
On 04/07/2017 09:11 AM, Charlie England wrote:
> Nexus 7 won't allow you to charge it and see the dongle at the same
> time, unless you 'root' it.
>
> Lots of info out there; I'll try to send some links when I get home.
>
> Charlie
> (Loading a Twinstar project on the trailer today! )
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Hoppy
> Date:04/07/2017 8:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out
>
>
> I figure there are guys on the list who are way ahead of me on this
> application...?
>
> I have likely said this before but I am playing with adsb...receive only
> on a Nexus 7 with a NooElec nesdr t2. I have never taken it outdoors
> to get signals but seems to work software wise.. I use Avare navigation
> which is free along with Avare adsb app, also free.
>
> Nexus runs android software ...The nexus was 50 bucks at a pawn
> shop..The dongle (noo elec software defined radio) was 19 bucks.. I
> think they are available for less..? I find Amazon to be the priciest
> ..so I usually buy from Ebay...specify free shipping and US location..
>
> Should receive adsb and weather... One possible problem is the drain
> on the tablet battery...I bought an usb , self powered, extender at an
> Amazon outlet for 5 bucks...flying, it will require conversion from 12
> to 5 volts.. A three terminal regulator and a couple of capacitors
> work...but likely those devices are available from "big Red" for a few
> bucks..
>
> Naturally this sort of device and its multiple usages are all over
> youtube. Some fellows are repackaging the whole kit and caboodle and
> asking big bucks for them... Hardware is cheap so it is all in the
> software... Glass cockpits use the same or similar hardware. But want
> 10k or better for their brew.. and they use much the same hardware...
>
> By now there should be total engine management as well as flight
> instrument replacement software and hardware for a Tablet ...The
> interface to egt,cht,oil pressure,etc can be made with a 7 dollar micro
> computer..called the Arduino...for it and the Raspberry Pi (35 bucks)
> have multiple analog inputs for sensors . The flight instruments (less
> airspeed) can be accomplished with a device the size of a postage stamp
> called a 9dof(degrees of freedom) 10 bucks.. it has an altimeter
> chip,magnetometer,gyro...The Arduino is the size of a credit card.. 7
> bucks... Both computers have a serial port that interfaces to the 9DOF.
> Should be fairly easy to tie the computer to aileron, and elevator trim
> for some sort of wing leveling to relax the work load on cross
> countries.. A large three wire , model airplane, servo would work..
>
> Still looking for a Firefly or Firestar re builder... Herb
>
>
> On 04/07/2017 02:03 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
> >
> > Kolbers,
> >
> > I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out,
> in there Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system
> I have heard of so far.
> > I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for
> us at Fun in the Sun.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Nick Cassara
> >
> > Palmer, Alaska
> >
> > 607AK
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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If the Nexus is fully charged...it would be important to use a powered
hub ...The discharge on the Nexus would be fairly normal then... Herb
On 04/07/2017 11:43 AM, Charlie England wrote:
> You can power the radio with it, but the 7 won't charge while in usb
> otg mode.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Hoppy
> Date:04/07/2017 10:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out
>
> With the powered usb hub...should not be a large problem...Herb
>
>
> On 04/07/2017 09:11 AM, Charlie England wrote:
>> Nexus 7 won't allow you to charge it and see the dongle at the same
>> time, unless you 'root' it.
>>
>> Lots of info out there; I'll try to send some links when I get home.
>>
>> Charlie
>> (Loading a Twinstar project on the trailer today! )
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Hoppy
>> Date:04/07/2017 8:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out
>>
>>
>> I figure there are guys on the list who are way ahead of me on this
>> application...?
>>
>> I have likely said this before but I am playing with adsb...receive only
>> on a Nexus 7 with a NooElec nesdr t2. I have never taken it outdoors
>> to get signals but seems to work software wise.. I use Avare navigation
>> which is free along with Avare adsb app, also free.
>>
>> Nexus runs android software ...The nexus was 50 bucks at a pawn
>> shop..The dongle (noo elec software defined radio) was 19 bucks.. I
>> think they are available for less..? I find Amazon to be the priciest
>> ..so I usually buy from Ebay...specify free shipping and US location..
>>
>> Should receive adsb and weather... One possible problem is the drain
>> on the tablet battery...I bought an usb , self powered, extender at an
>> Amazon outlet for 5 bucks...flying, it will require conversion from 12
>> to 5 volts.. A three terminal regulator and a couple of capacitors
>> work...but likely those devices are available from "big Red" for a few
>> bucks..
>>
>> Naturally this sort of device and its multiple usages are all over
>> youtube. Some fellows are repackaging the whole kit and caboodle and
>> asking big bucks for them... Hardware is cheap so it is all in the
>> software... Glass cockpits use the same or similar hardware. But want
>> 10k or better for their brew.. and they use much the same hardware...
>>
>> By now there should be total engine management as well as flight
>> instrument replacement software and hardware for a Tablet ...The
>> interface to egt,cht,oil pressure,etc can be made with a 7 dollar micro
>> computer..called the Arduino...for it and the Raspberry Pi (35 bucks)
>> have multiple analog inputs for sensors . The flight instruments (less
>> airspeed) can be accomplished with a device the size of a postage stamp
>> called a 9dof(degrees of freedom) 10 bucks.. it has an altimeter
>> chip,magnetometer,gyro...The Arduino is the size of a credit card.. 7
>> bucks... Both computers have a serial port that interfaces to the 9DOF.
>> Should be fairly easy to tie the computer to aileron, and elevator trim
>> for some sort of wing leveling to relax the work load on cross
>> countries.. A large three wire , model airplane, servo would work..
>>
>> Still looking for a Firefly or Firestar re builder... Herb
>>
>>
>> On 04/07/2017 02:03 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
>> >
>> > Kolbers,
>> >
>> > I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out,
>> in there Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable
>> system I have heard of so far.
>> > I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for
>> us at Fun in the Sun.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> > Nick Cassara
>> >
>> > Palmer, Alaska
>> >
>> > 607AK
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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IMHO you might also look into the Simonini and Polini brand engines. I'm sure the
Zanzottera (MZ) are decent engines, but the Polini is gaining a really strong
reputation in the UL and LSA world, and Simonini is already the leader in the
highly competitive powered parachute world (which is now the largest and most
active market for small engines).
There are two competing engines from Polini and SImonini that make 33 to 36HP and
weigh 40- 45 pounds, WITH starter, reduction drive, propeller and exhaust.
(incredible!)
They have more modern advanced metallurgy than previous generations of 2 stroke
engines. If I recall, the fuel burn is also more attractive than previous engines
(377).
There is a good chance that these engines on an early Firestar can legitimately
put it into Part 103 weight, with a lot more flight performance than one would
expect. You can add a quick/cheap/light home made "Swiss muffler" and have it
much quieter too.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 4/7/17, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Info. On MZ201/M202
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Friday, April 7, 2017, 7:32 AM
sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
Has anyone heard from Jack
Hart? His notes on lightening his Firefly are
invaluable to anyone building one.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
Hoppy
<herbgh@nctc.com>
Where is Jack Hart when we need him..
??
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly.html
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That does sound incredible. I'll have do some research on these engines. I started
my Rotax 377 today after it was 28 years in storage after being fogged after
its last fight. It has thirty hours on it, that's total time. It took a while
to clear all that old fogging oil out of it. Ran great! Tomorrow I'll put it
thru the Rotax break in run which is pretty torturous. If it survives that I'll
figure it to be airworthy.
Thanks for information.
George H.
Firestar MK1, #FS100
14GDH
gdhelton@gmail.com
Mesick, Michigan
Have a great day!
> On Apr 7, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> IMHO you might also look into the Simonini and Polini brand engines. I'm sure
the Zanzottera (MZ) are decent engines, but the Polini is gaining a really strong
reputation in the UL and LSA world, and Simonini is already the leader in
the highly competitive powered parachute world (which is now the largest and
most active market for small engines).
>
> There are two competing engines from Polini and SImonini that make 33 to 36HP
and weigh 40- 45 pounds, WITH starter, reduction drive, propeller and exhaust.
(incredible!)
>
> They have more modern advanced metallurgy than previous generations of 2 stroke
engines. If I recall, the fuel burn is also more attractive than previous engines
(377).
>
> There is a good chance that these engines on an early Firestar can legitimately
put it into Part 103 weight, with a lot more flight performance than one would
expect. You can add a quick/cheap/light home made "Swiss muffler" and have
it much quieter too.
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
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> On Fri, 4/7/17, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Info. On MZ201/M202
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, April 7, 2017, 7:32 AM
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> sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
>
> Has anyone heard from Jack
> Hart? His notes on lightening his Firefly are
> invaluable to anyone building one.
>
> do not archive
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> Bill Sullivan
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> Hoppy
> <herbgh@nctc.com>
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> Where is Jack Hart when we need him..
> ??
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> http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly.html
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