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1. 12:48 PM - Sun-N-Fun 2017 (Rick Neilsen)
2. 01:17 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2017 (John Hauck)
3. 05:55 PM - q (Russ Kinne)
4. 06:51 PM - Re: Info. On MZ201/M202 (Jeff Craddock)
5. 07:51 PM - M3Xtra (Colin Hudson)
6. 07:56 PM - Blue Bird Flight (John Hauck)
7. 08:19 PM - Re: Blue Bird Flight (George Helton)
8. 08:20 PM - Re: Blue Bird Flight (Larry Cottrell)
9. 09:08 PM - Re: Blue Bird Flight (John Hauck)
10. 10:05 PM - Re: Blue Bird Flight (George Helton)
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Just got back from a day and a half at Sun-N-Fun. The weather was super,
very unlike Florida for this time of the year. Highs in the mid 70s Friday
and today. Last night froze my a.... off.
Brian and Helen had to leave for home a few days ago so it was a one man
show at the kolb trailer.
I looked at the new break away tail wheel and I don't really understand how
it works. It looks to me like you have to give it opposite lock to get it
to release. In other words if you want it to go full swivel to the left you
would apply the left brake and push on the right rudder to the stop. The
design is simple and should be reliable just not sure how it works in
practice. Please let us know how it really works. Has me scratching my head.
There is a beautiful customer Kolbra for sale in front of the Kolb trailer
and sounds like they sold a completed Fire Star. Lots of activity. Not the
same without John H there.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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Rick N/Kolbers:
I miss being there. S&F has always been a special week for me. Met a
lot of folks down there that I only get to see during the air show.
First one I have missed since 1984.
Oh well, Miss P'fer is ready for the flight to the Rock House in Sep,
VGs, brand new Odyssey PC-545, and all. The Odyssey battery that
failed, was installed April 2007. I believe I got my money's worth, but
I wish it had failed a few weeks earlier or a few weeks later.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Neilsen
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 2:47 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Sun-N-Fun 2017
Just got back from a day and a half at Sun-N-Fun. The weather was super,
very unlike Florida for this time of the year. Highs in the mid 70s
Friday and today. Last night froze my a.... off.
Brian and Helen had to leave for home a few days ago so it was a one man
show at the kolb trailer.
I looked at the new break away tail wheel and I don't really understand
how it works. It looks to me like you have to give it opposite lock to
get it to release. In other words if you want it to go full swivel to
the left you would apply the left brake and push on the right rudder to
the stop. The design is simple and should be reliable just not sure how
it works in practice. Please let us know how it really works. Has me
scratching my head.
There is a beautiful customer Kolbra for sale in front of the Kolb
trailer and sounds like they sold a completed Fire Star. Lots of
activity. Not the same without John H there.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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Tried to email ole Beauford and it bounced. Can someone
pls send me his current email address?
Greatly appreciated!
Russ K
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| Subject: | Re: Info. On MZ201/M202 |
George,
This is a great question. =C2-I have an MZ201 (an unusual dual-carb versi
on), and was going to use on a scratchbuilt plane, but I became enamored wi
th the Kolbs and bought an Ultrastar a couple months ago. =C2-For me, the
attraction of the MZ201 was its very light weight. =C2-With redrive, the
MZ201 weighs 68 lbs. The MZ201 weight includes the exhaust, carb, redrive,
and hand start. The distributor has a neat picture of the 277 and MZ201 on
a balance beam, with the 277 clearly heavier than the MZ201. =C2-That sa
id, the MZ201 lacks fan cooling and its free air configuration seems unsuit
ed for a pusher layout. My Ultrastar has a Cuyuna ULII-02 and with its exha
ust, reduction drive, pull start,carb, air cleaner, ignition parts and prop
attach flgs, weighs 82 lbs (actual - measured in my garage). =C2-I would
love to replace it with the MZ201 but cooling has been a stumbling block..
. =C2-Any ideas you might have for using in in a pusher would be apprecia
ted.
The MZ202 has fan cooling but the fan cooling system replaces the pull star
ter, which necessitates an heavy elec starter. =C2-That, and the gear red
rive, raise weight considerably - its more like an 84 lb all up weight.
Jeff in Colorado
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Hey Guys, I just listed my Mark3 X-tra on Barnstormers if you know someone who
is looking for a nice one.
Colin Hudson
N424AL
>
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| Subject: | Blue Bird Flight |
Late this evening I pushed the MKIII out of the hanger. Not an easy job
loaded down with 25 gal, 150 lbs, of 91 oct mogas. This was fuel to get me
halfway to Lakeland.
The MKIII performed well. Great flying weather, no wind and cool.
I checked out stall speed, idle power, with this load:
35-36 mph clean.
32 mph 20 deg flaps.
30 mph 40 deg flaps.
Shot a dozen landings in all configurations without blowing any of them. I
can't take credit for that. I think the VGs are working.
Not sure if I have lost any cruise speed or not. If I have, it is very
close, if at all.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Blue Bird Flight |
John, it's good to hear you're up there having some fun. I finished the new b
reakaway tailwheel project today. Now I just need some warm weather up here i
n northern Michigan so I can finish painting the left wing on the old Firest
ar MK1, so I can try it out.
George H.
Firestar MK1, #FS100
14GDH
gdhelton@gmail.com
Mesick, Michigan
Have a great day!
> On Apr 8, 2017, at 10:56 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Late this evening I pushed the MKIII out of the hanger. Not an easy job l
oaded down with 25 gal, 150 lbs, of 91 oct mogas. This was fuel to get me h
alfway to Lakeland.
>
> The MKIII performed well. Great flying weather, no wind and cool.
>
> I checked out stall speed, idle power, with this load:
>
> 35-36 mph clean.
>
> 32 mph 20 deg flaps.
>
> 30 mph 40 deg flaps.
>
> Shot a dozen landings in all configurations without blowing any of them. I
can't take credit for that. I think the VGs are working.
>
> Not sure if I have lost any cruise speed or not. If I have, it is very cl
ose, if at all.
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Blue Bird Flight |
Glad that you could get out John. It was a good reward for you, if you
know what I mean.
I have always found the idea that having the "little bitty thingy ma
bobs" on your wing that are designed to reattach the air flow to said
wing, being maligned because "they might" slow your plane down a bit,
to be a bit of a head scratcher. ( I might still be suffering from
inaccurate writing here.) I had always thought that air swirling from
being unattached was the culprit, not the solution. Heck, you could be
going faster.
Just look at it this way. What is the first thing you do when you get
in rough weather? You slow down! It could be an improvement built in.
Still a bit cranky,
Larry
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:56 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Late this evening I pushed the MKIII out of the hanger. Not an easy job
> loaded down with 25 gal, 150 lbs, of 91 oct mogas.
> Not sure if I have lost any cruise speed or not. If I have, it is very
> close, if at all.
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Blue Bird Flight |
I think George H has invented a new model Firestar, the MKI.
If memory serves me correctly these are the Firestar models. Ya'll correct
me if I am wrong.
-Firestar
-Firestar KXP
-Firestar II
Don't think there was a MKI, but I know what you are getting at. Folks, not
Homer Kolb, decided to call the first FS model the "original" FS, and the
"original" MKIII.
BTW: You could cut that tail wheel strut in half and still have more strut
than you will ever need. Shortening the strut reduces torsional twist,
bouncing, bending, and wiggling. Makes tail wheel steering a little
tighter. I use a 6" (exposed length) .120" wall heat treated 4130 strut.
Works good on Miss P'fer.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helton
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Blue Bird Flight
John, it's good to hear you're up there having some fun. I finished the new
breakaway tailwheel project today. Now I just need some warm weather up here
in northern Michigan so I can finish painting the left wing on the old
Firestar MK1, so I can try it out.
image1.JPG
George H.
Firestar MK1, #FS100
14GDH
gdhelton@gmail.com
Mesick, Michigan
Have a great day!
On Apr 8, 2017, at 10:56 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Late this evening I pushed the MKIII out of the hanger. Not an easy job
loaded down with 25 gal, 150 lbs, of 91 oct mogas. This was fuel to get me
halfway to Lakeland.
The MKIII performed well. Great flying weather, no wind and cool.
I checked out stall speed, idle power, with this load:
35-36 mph clean.
32 mph 20 deg flaps.
30 mph 40 deg flaps.
Shot a dozen landings in all configurations without blowing any of them. I
can't take credit for that. I think the VGs are working.
Not sure if I have lost any cruise speed or not. If I have, it is very
close, if at all.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Blue Bird Flight |
You're right, John. Original is just to much typing every time. I'll just us
e Firestar 1 in the future. I did build a Twinstar Mk II which was the secon
d variant of original Twinstar. (open to enclosed cockpit)Which lead to the o
riginal MkIII.
George H.
Firestar 1,(original) #FS100
14GDH
gdhelton@gmail.com
Mesick, Michigan
Have a great day!
> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:08 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I think George H has invented a new model Firestar, the MKI.
>
> If memory serves me correctly these are the Firestar models. Ya'll correc
t me if I am wrong.
>
> -Firestar
> -Firestar KXP
> -Firestar II
>
> Don't think there was a MKI, but I know what you are getting at. Folks, n
ot Homer Kolb, decided to call the first FS model the "original" FS, and the
"original" MKIII.
>
> BTW: You could cut that tail wheel strut in half and still have more stru
t than you will ever need. Shortening the strut reduces torsional twist, bo
uncing, bending, and wiggling. Makes tail wheel steering a little tighter.
I use a 6" (exposed length) .120" wall heat treated 4130 strut. Works good
on Miss P'fer.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
>
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helton
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 10:19 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Blue Bird Flight
>
> John, it's good to hear you're up there having some fun. I finished the ne
w breakaway tailwheel project today. Now I just need some warm weather up he
re in northern Michigan so I can finish painting the left wing on the old Fi
restar MK1, so I can try it out.
> <image001.jpg>
>
> George H.
> Firestar MK1, #FS100
> 14GDH
> gdhelton@gmail.com
> Mesick, Michigan
>
>
> Have a great day!
>
> On Apr 8, 2017, at 10:56 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Late this evening I pushed the MKIII out of the hanger. Not an easy job l
oaded down with 25 gal, 150 lbs, of 91 oct mogas. This was fuel to get me h
alfway to Lakeland.
>
> The MKIII performed well. Great flying weather, no wind and cool.
>
> I checked out stall speed, idle power, with this load:
>
> 35-36 mph clean.
>
> 32 mph 20 deg flaps.
>
> 30 mph 40 deg flaps.
>
> Shot a dozen landings in all configurations without blowing any of them. I
can't take credit for that. I think the VGs are working.
>
> Not sure if I have lost any cruise speed or not. If I have, it is very cl
ose, if at all.
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, Alabama
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