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1. 07:37 AM - Re - New Kolb owner (Norman)
2. 09:04 AM - Re: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request (GARY JINDRA)
3. 04:48 PM - Re: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request (Charlie England)
4. 04:48 PM - covering supplier? (Charlie England)
5. 06:16 PM - Re: covering supplier? (mojavjoe@comcast.net)
6. 07:11 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Hoppy)
7. 07:16 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Hoppy)
8. 08:15 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Charlie England)
9. 08:51 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Charlie England)
10. 10:24 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Bill Berle)
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| Subject: | Re - New Kolb owner |
Many thanks for the info - the link to the "yellow Book" was very
informative.
Norman
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request |
take a snap punch and grind the tip down to be small enough to knock out th
e rivet mandrels. Then the rivets will drill straight with out enlarging th
e original hole
=C2-Gary Jindramark 111c912ul 420 hours
From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 5:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request
OK, now that I've got that short nose Kolb bit out of my system....
I'm now the proud owner of an N-numbered early Kolb Twinstar
(restoration project). IIRC, its serial number is in the low 20's range.
A little rusty, but we've peeled the fabric on one wing & the aluminum
seems to be in good shape, with very little corrosion, considering that
it spent its entire past life in central FL.
This one's got a Rotax 503 (converted from single to dual carbs, and to
free air cooling) that seems to be in great shape. The previous owner is
a close friend who was the builder. I trust what he=C2- tells me, and he
says that it always=C2- cooled fine running it free-air with some added
ducting.
I'll be replacing hardware, 'soft' parts, etc, but don't intend on doing
a showplane restoration; just a safe, nice flying 'after supper' flyer.
I've got the plans for the plane, but I'm hoping that you experienced
Kolbers can share any suggested mods to these early models, that will
make them safer/more durable/etc. Is there a published list of any/all
service bulletins or recommended updates? For instance, I've seen the
advice to add braces to the tailspring stinger. And I know that the
later Twinstars have mass balances on at least some of the control
surfaces; is it recommended to add them to the early models? This one
does not have any mass balances anywhere.
Who's recovered one? Any issues when you drilled out the rivets to
remove the ailerons, etc for recovering?
Any advice will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request |
Thanks, Gary; I've got one modified like that.
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:01 AM, GARY JINDRA <gajindra@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> take a snap punch and grind the tip down to be small enough to knock out
> the rivet mandrels. Then the rivets will drill straight with out enlarging
> the original hole
>
> *Gary Jindra*
> mark 111c
> 912ul 420 hours
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 9, 2017 5:34 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request
>
>
> OK, now that I've got that short nose Kolb bit out of my system....
>
> I'm now the proud owner of an N-numbered early Kolb Twinstar
> (restoration project). IIRC, its serial number is in the low 20's range.
> A little rusty, but we've peeled the fabric on one wing & the aluminum
> seems to be in good shape, with very little corrosion, considering that
> it spent its entire past life in central FL.
>
> This one's got a Rotax 503 (converted from single to dual carbs, and to
> free air cooling) that seems to be in great shape. The previous owner is
> a close friend who was the builder. I trust what he tells me, and he
> says that it always cooled fine running it free-air with some added
> ducting.
>
> I'll be replacing hardware, 'soft' parts, etc, but don't intend on doing
> a showplane restoration; just a safe, nice flying 'after supper' flyer.
> I've got the plans for the plane, but I'm hoping that you experienced
> Kolbers can share any suggested mods to these early models, that will
> make them safer/more durable/etc. Is there a published list of any/all
> service bulletins or recommended updates? For instance, I've seen the
> advice to add braces to the tailspring stinger. And I know that the
> later Twinstars have mass balances on at least some of the control
> surfaces; is it recommended to add them to the early models? This one
> does not have any mass balances anywhere.
>
> Who's recovered one? Any issues when you drilled out the rivets to
> remove the ailerons, etc for recovering?
>
> Any advice will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
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| Subject: | covering supplier? |
Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better service,
etc) than A/C Spruce?
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| Subject: | Re: covering supplier? |
Charlie
Use the covering that A/C Spruce refers to as peel ply.
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie England" <ceengland7@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 7:45:01 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: covering supplier?
Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better service, etc) than
A/C Spruce?
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| Subject: | Re: covering supplier? |
Yep..Peel ply... around 5 bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb
On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM, Charlie England wrote:
> Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better
> service, etc) than A/C Spruce?
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| Subject: | Re: covering supplier? |
Haven't checked in a while..but think A/C spruce can ship Poly Fiber
chemicals with no haz material charge...? Herb
On 04/10/2017 09:10 PM, Hoppy wrote:
>
> Yep..Peel ply... around 5 bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb
>
>
> On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM, Charlie England wrote:
>> Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better
>> service, etc) than A/C Spruce?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: covering supplier? |
Thanks; I've heard of using regular polyester fabric. But at roughly a
$3 price delta, it's only a $40 spread for all the fabric I'll need.
On 4/10/2017 9:10 PM, Hoppy wrote:
>
> Yep..Peel ply... around 5 bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb
>
>
> On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM, Charlie England wrote:
>> Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better
>> service, etc) than A/C Spruce?
>
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| Subject: | Re: covering supplier? |
Sounds like Spruce is the go-to place, then.
My fabric guy (yeah, I've got a fabric guy) is willing to try Stewart
System glue, so I think we'll give that a shot. That plus Wienerdog
Aero's Latex painting technique, & we should be good to go. :-)
Charlie
On 4/10/2017 9:15 PM, Hoppy wrote:
>
> Haven't checked in a while..but think A/C spruce can ship Poly Fiber
> chemicals with no haz material charge...? Herb
>
>
> On 04/10/2017 09:10 PM, Hoppy wrote:
>>
>> Yep..Peel ply... around 5 bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb
>>
>>
>> On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM, Charlie England wrote:
>>> Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better
>>> service, etc) than A/C Spruce?
>>
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| Subject: | Re: covering supplier? |
Do a little research, the latex may be heavier than some other systems.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Mon, 4/10/17, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering supplier?
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Monday, April 10, 2017, 8:53 PM
England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
Sounds like Spruce is the go-to place,
then.
My fabric guy (yeah, I've got a fabric
guy) is willing to try Stewart
System glue, so I think we'll give that
a shot. That plus Wienerdog
Aero's Latex painting technique, &
we should be good to go. :-)
Charlie
On 4/10/2017 9:15 PM, Hoppy wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted
by: Hoppy <herbgh@nctc.com>
>
> Haven't checked in a while..but
think A/C spruce can ship Poly Fiber
> chemicals with no haz material
charge...? Herb
>
>
> On 04/10/2017 09:10 PM, Hoppy
wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message
posted by: Hoppy <herbgh@nctc.com>
>>
>> Yep..Peel ply... around 5
bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb
>>
>>
>> On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM,
Charlie England wrote:
>>> Anyone using a covering
supplier that's better (cheaper, better
>>> service, etc) than A/C
Spruce?
>>
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