---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/10/17: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:37 AM - Re - New Kolb owner (Norman) 2. 09:04 AM - Re: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request (GARY JINDRA) 3. 04:48 PM - Re: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request (Charlie England) 4. 04:48 PM - covering supplier? (Charlie England) 5. 06:16 PM - Re: covering supplier? (mojavjoe@comcast.net) 6. 07:11 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Hoppy) 7. 07:16 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Hoppy) 8. 08:15 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Charlie England) 9. 08:51 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Charlie England) 10. 10:24 PM - Re: covering supplier? (Bill Berle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:46 AM PST US From: Norman Subject: Kolb-List: Re - New Kolb owner Many thanks for the info - the link to the "yellow Book" was very informative. Norman ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:15 AM PST US From: GARY JINDRA Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request take a snap punch and grind the tip down to be small enough to knock out th e rivet mandrels. Then the rivets will drill straight with out enlarging th e original hole =C2-Gary Jindramark 111c912ul 420 hours From: Charlie England To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 5:34 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request OK, now that I've got that short nose Kolb bit out of my system.... I'm now the proud owner of an N-numbered early Kolb Twinstar (restoration project). IIRC, its serial number is in the low 20's range. A little rusty, but we've peeled the fabric on one wing & the aluminum seems to be in good shape, with very little corrosion, considering that it spent its entire past life in central FL. This one's got a Rotax 503 (converted from single to dual carbs, and to free air cooling) that seems to be in great shape. The previous owner is a close friend who was the builder. I trust what he=C2- tells me, and he says that it always=C2- cooled fine running it free-air with some added ducting. I'll be replacing hardware, 'soft' parts, etc, but don't intend on doing a showplane restoration; just a safe, nice flying 'after supper' flyer. I've got the plans for the plane, but I'm hoping that you experienced Kolbers can share any suggested mods to these early models, that will make them safer/more durable/etc. Is there a published list of any/all service bulletins or recommended updates? For instance, I've seen the advice to add braces to the tailspring stinger. And I know that the later Twinstars have mass balances on at least some of the control surfaces; is it recommended to add them to the early models? This one does not have any mass balances anywhere. Who's recovered one? Any issues when you drilled out the rivets to remove the ailerons, etc for recovering? Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Charlie S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:25 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request Thanks, Gary; I've got one modified like that. On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:01 AM, GARY JINDRA wrote: > take a snap punch and grind the tip down to be small enough to knock out > the rivet mandrels. Then the rivets will drill straight with out enlarging > the original hole > > *Gary Jindra* > mark 111c > 912ul 420 hours > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Charlie England > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, April 9, 2017 5:34 PM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: Kolb Twinstar (original version) info request > > > OK, now that I've got that short nose Kolb bit out of my system.... > > I'm now the proud owner of an N-numbered early Kolb Twinstar > (restoration project). IIRC, its serial number is in the low 20's range. > A little rusty, but we've peeled the fabric on one wing & the aluminum > seems to be in good shape, with very little corrosion, considering that > it spent its entire past life in central FL. > > This one's got a Rotax 503 (converted from single to dual carbs, and to > free air cooling) that seems to be in great shape. The previous owner is > a close friend who was the builder. I trust what he tells me, and he > says that it always cooled fine running it free-air with some added > ducting. > > I'll be replacing hardware, 'soft' parts, etc, but don't intend on doing > a showplane restoration; just a safe, nice flying 'after supper' flyer. > I've got the plans for the plane, but I'm hoping that you experienced > Kolbers can share any suggested mods to these early models, that will > make them safer/more durable/etc. Is there a published list of any/all > service bulletins or recommended updates? For instance, I've seen the > advice to add braces to the tailspring stinger. And I know that the > later Twinstars have mass balances on at least some of the control > surfaces; is it recommended to add them to the early models? This one > does not have any mass balances anywhere. > > Who's recovered one? Any issues when you drilled out the rivets to > remove the ailerons, etc for recovering? > > Any advice will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > _==================== > http://forums.matronics.com > http://wiki.matro======================= > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:38 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Kolb-List: covering supplier? Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better service, etc) than A/C Spruce? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:02 PM PST US From: mojavjoe@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering supplier? Charlie Use the covering that A/C Spruce refers to as peel ply. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie England" Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 7:45:01 PM Subject: Kolb-List: covering supplier? Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better service, etc) than A/C Spruce? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering supplier? From: Hoppy Yep..Peel ply... around 5 bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM, Charlie England wrote: > Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better > service, etc) than A/C Spruce? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:00 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering supplier? From: Hoppy Haven't checked in a while..but think A/C spruce can ship Poly Fiber chemicals with no haz material charge...? Herb On 04/10/2017 09:10 PM, Hoppy wrote: > > Yep..Peel ply... around 5 bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb > > > On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM, Charlie England wrote: >> Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better >> service, etc) than A/C Spruce? > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering supplier? From: Charlie England Thanks; I've heard of using regular polyester fabric. But at roughly a $3 price delta, it's only a $40 spread for all the fabric I'll need. On 4/10/2017 9:10 PM, Hoppy wrote: > > Yep..Peel ply... around 5 bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb > > > On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM, Charlie England wrote: >> Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better >> service, etc) than A/C Spruce? > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering supplier? From: Charlie England Sounds like Spruce is the go-to place, then. My fabric guy (yeah, I've got a fabric guy) is willing to try Stewart System glue, so I think we'll give that a shot. That plus Wienerdog Aero's Latex painting technique, & we should be good to go. :-) Charlie On 4/10/2017 9:15 PM, Hoppy wrote: > > Haven't checked in a while..but think A/C spruce can ship Poly Fiber > chemicals with no haz material charge...? Herb > > > On 04/10/2017 09:10 PM, Hoppy wrote: >> >> Yep..Peel ply... around 5 bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb >> >> >> On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM, Charlie England wrote: >>> Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better >>> service, etc) than A/C Spruce? >> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:27 PM PST US From: Bill Berle Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering supplier? Do a little research, the latex may be heavier than some other systems. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 4/10/17, Charlie England wrote: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: covering supplier? To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Monday, April 10, 2017, 8:53 PM England Sounds like Spruce is the go-to place, then. My fabric guy (yeah, I've got a fabric guy) is willing to try Stewart System glue, so I think we'll give that a shot. That plus Wienerdog Aero's Latex painting technique, & we should be good to go. :-) Charlie On 4/10/2017 9:15 PM, Hoppy wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Hoppy > > Haven't checked in a while..but think A/C spruce can ship Poly Fiber > chemicals with no haz material charge...? Herb > > > On 04/10/2017 09:10 PM, Hoppy wrote: >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Hoppy >> >> Yep..Peel ply... around 5 bucks a yard...1.7 or 2.6. Herb >> >> >> On 04/10/2017 06:45 PM, Charlie England wrote: >>> Anyone using a covering supplier that's better (cheaper, better >>> service, etc) than A/C Spruce? >> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus The Kolb-List Email Forum - Navigator to browse List Un/Subscription, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - via the Web Forums! - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - Email List Wiki! - List Contribution Web Site - support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.