---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/26/17: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:47 AM - aileron gap seal: when? (Charlie England) 2. 07:18 AM - Re: aileron gap seal: when? (John Hauck) 3. 04:09 PM - recovering slingshot wing (mike stone) 4. 05:24 PM - Re: recovering slingshot wing (Richard Pike) 5. 07:12 PM - Re: aileron gap seal: when? (Charlie England) 6. 07:19 PM - Re: aileron gap seal: when? (John Hauck) 7. 07:22 PM - Re: recovering slingshot wing (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:25 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Kolb-List: aileron gap seal: when? For you Twinstar builders/restorers, how/when do you install gap seals? My 1st gen plans say to install the seals before installing the hinges. I'm planning on using the latex finishing method, and I've used the Stewart water based glue for covering. Do you pre-shrink the gap seal fabric and glue it on after the rest of the finish work (final paint), then repaint after attaching the gap seal? Thanks, Charlie ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:25 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: aileron gap seal: when? Charlie E/Kolbers: Haven't covered a wing in 17 years, so if I am wrong someone will promptly correct me please. ;-) After you shoot the last coat of Polybrush (sealer), the gap seal is cemented to wing and aileron. I think I used 3" finishing tape and it is not shrunk. Use a small needle soldering iron to burn out the rivet holes. Hinges are riveted after finish painting. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:47 AM Subject: Kolb-List: aileron gap seal: when? For you Twinstar builders/restorers, how/when do you install gap seals? My 1st gen plans say to install the seals before installing the hinges. I'm planning on using the latex finishing method, and I've used the Stewart water based glue for covering. Do you pre-shrink the gap seal fabric and glue it on after the rest of the finish work (final paint), then repaint after attaching the gap seal? Thanks, Charlie ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:00 PM PST US From: mike stone Subject: Kolb-List: recovering slingshot wing is it acceptable to leave the rivet ends in the 5/16 tubing to rattle around ,or remove rib tops and bottoms ???? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:58 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: recovering slingshot wing From: "Richard Pike" It must be acceptable; all of them do. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468833#468833 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: aileron gap seal: when? From: Charlie England Hi John, Thanks for the info. Your description is how I'm reading the plans. But I'm not sure how to manage a 12' aileron (flaperon) and a 15' wing when I'll need to flip the assembly numerous times while applying multiple finish coats, and keep the two components aligned well enough to avoid peeling off the gap seal from at least one side. Charlie On 4/26/2017 9:18 AM, John Hauck wrote: > > Charlie E/Kolbers: > > Haven't covered a wing in 17 years, so if I am wrong someone will > promptly correct me please. ;-) > > After you shoot the last coat of Polybrush (sealer), the gap seal is > cemented to wing and aileron. I think I used 3" finishing tape and it > is not shrunk. > > Use a small needle soldering iron to burn out the rivet holes. > > Hinges are riveted after finish painting. > > john h > > mkIII > > Titus, Alabama > > *From:*owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Charlie > England > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:47 AM > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Kolb-List: aileron gap seal: when? > > For you Twinstar builders/restorers, how/when do you install gap seals? > > My 1st gen plans say to install the seals before installing the > hinges. I'm planning on using the latex finishing method, and I've > used the Stewart water based glue for covering. Do you pre-shrink the > gap seal fabric and glue it on after the rest of the finish work > (final paint), then repaint after attaching the gap seal? > > Thanks, > > Charlie > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:31 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: aileron gap seal: when? Very gently.... Shoot one side and roll the wing and aileron over, being careful of course. Poly-tak cement is very tenacious. I never had a problem with separation during processing and finishing. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: aileron gap seal: when? Hi John, Thanks for the info. Your description is how I'm reading the plans. But I'm not sure how to manage a 12' aileron (flaperon) and a 15' wing when I'll need to flip the assembly numerous times while applying multiple finish coats, and keep the two components aligned well enough to avoid peeling off the gap seal from at least one side. Charlie On 4/26/2017 9:18 AM, John Hauck wrote: Charlie E/Kolbers: Haven't covered a wing in 17 years, so if I am wrong someone will promptly correct me please. ;-) After you shoot the last coat of Polybrush (sealer), the gap seal is cemented to wing and aileron. I think I used 3" finishing tape and it is not shrunk. Use a small needle soldering iron to burn out the rivet holes. Hinges are riveted after finish painting. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:47 AM Subject: Kolb-List: aileron gap seal: when? For you Twinstar builders/restorers, how/when do you install gap seals? My 1st gen plans say to install the seals before installing the hinges. I'm planning on using the latex finishing method, and I've used the Stewart water based glue for covering. Do you pre-shrink the gap seal fabric and glue it on after the rest of the finish work (final paint), then repaint after attaching the gap seal? Thanks, Charlie Virus-free. www.avast.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:34 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: recovering slingshot wing I always tried to blow them out with compressed air. Then use some adhesive tape to seal the ends. If the drill chips and mandrel ends get out of the tubes, they end up under the edge of the fabric and leading and trailing edges, eventually putting holes in the fabric. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mike stone Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 6:05 PM Subject: Kolb-List: recovering slingshot wing is it acceptable to leave the rivet ends in the 5/16 tubing to rattle around ,or remove rib tops and bottoms ???? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.