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1. 07:11 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/26/17 (B Young)
2. 08:44 AM - Re: aileron gap seal: when? (Frankd)
3. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: aileron gap seal: when? (John Hauck)
4. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/26/17 (Charlie England)
5. 10:59 AM - Re: Re: aileron gap seal: when? (Charlie England)
6. 11:26 AM - Re: Gap Seal (Bill Berle)
7. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: aileron gap seal: when? (Bill Berle)
8. 12:48 PM - Re: Re: aileron gap seal: when? (John Hauck)
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/26/17 |
Clip
Hi John,
Thanks for the info. Your description is how I'm reading the plans. But
I'm not sure how to manage a 12' aileron (flaperon) and a 15' wing when
I'll need to flip the assembly numerous times while applying multiple
finish coats, and keep the two components aligned well enough to avoid
peeling off the gap seal from at least one side.
Charlie
End clip
Another option...... Place a few clekos in the hinge when moving /
turning the wing, remove to paint.
Boyd Young mkiii utah
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Subject: | Re: aileron gap seal: when? |
Hi Charlie/John,
The instructions for my MkIII Xtra was to complete the wing and attach the ailerons.
Then use two strips of 3M Book tape, 3 inch wide, that are overlapped
upon each other with about one inch of sticky side tape exposed. This will
give you a one inch sticky edge facing down on one side and up on the opposite
side.
Then you stick this "Modified tape" to the bottom of the wing and top of the aileron
, bridging the gap between the wing and Aileron. I also did the exact same
on the horizontal stab and elevators.
It still works great and looks fine.
(I think it was bottom of wing and top of aileron but it could be the other way
round)
This is another option.. and can be done when all else is finished.. I just cleaned
the surface well and used tack cloth to make sure no dust , etc , was
trapped in the tape.
My 2 cents..
FrankD
MkIII Xtra, hollister Ca.
PS.. I have decided to sell my Kolb , in case anyone is interested.. want to
give this list the first notification before I post in Barnstormers.
Cheers.
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Subject: | Re: aileron gap seal: when? |
Tape is ok, I guess.
Finishing tape is much more permanent. I've got serviceable gap seals after
25 years and more than 3400 hours service.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frankd
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:45 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: aileron gap seal: when?
Hi Charlie/John,
The instructions for my MkIII Xtra was to complete the wing and attach the
ailerons. Then use two strips of 3M Book tape, 3 inch wide, that are
overlapped upon each other with about one inch of sticky side tape exposed.
This will give you a one inch sticky edge facing down on one side and up on
the opposite side.
Then you stick this "Modified tape" to the bottom of the wing and top of the
aileron , bridging the gap between the wing and Aileron. I also did the
exact same on the horizontal stab and elevators.
It still works great and looks fine.
(I think it was bottom of wing and top of aileron but it could be the other
way round)
This is another option.. and can be done when all else is finished.. I
just cleaned the surface well and used tack cloth to make sure no dust , etc
, was trapped in the tape.
My 2 cents..
FrankD
MkIII Xtra, hollister Ca.
PS.. I have decided to sell my Kolb , in case anyone is interested.. want
to give this list the first notification before I post in Barnstormers.
Cheers.
Do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468850#468850
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/26/17 |
On 4/27/2017 9:10 AM, B Young wrote:
>
> Clip
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for the info. Your description is how I'm reading the plans. But
> I'm not sure how to manage a 12' aileron (flaperon) and a 15' wing when
> I'll need to flip the assembly numerous times while applying multiple
> finish coats, and keep the two components aligned well enough to avoid
> peeling off the gap seal from at least one side.
>
> Charlie
> End clip
>
> Another option...... Place a few clekos in the hinge when moving /
> turning the wing, remove to paint.
>
> Boyd Young mkiii utah
>
Thanks; that's occurred to me, but painting them separately would be a
lot easier to do solo. I'll file it as an option.
Charlie
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Subject: | Re: aileron gap seal: when? |
On 4/27/2017 10:54 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> Tape is ok, I guess.
>
> Finishing tape is much more permanent. I've got serviceable gap seals after
> 25 years and more than 3400 hours service.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frankd
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:45 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: aileron gap seal: when?
>
>
> Hi Charlie/John,
>
> The instructions for my MkIII Xtra was to complete the wing and attach the
> ailerons. Then use two strips of 3M Book tape, 3 inch wide, that are
> overlapped upon each other with about one inch of sticky side tape exposed.
> This will give you a one inch sticky edge facing down on one side and up on
> the opposite side.
>
> Then you stick this "Modified tape" to the bottom of the wing and top of the
> aileron , bridging the gap between the wing and Aileron. I also did the
> exact same on the horizontal stab and elevators.
> It still works great and looks fine.
>
> (I think it was bottom of wing and top of aileron but it could be the other
> way round)
>
> This is another option.. and can be done when all else is finished.. I
> just cleaned the surface well and used tack cloth to make sure no dust , etc
> , was trapped in the tape.
>
> My 2 cents..
>
>
> FrankD
>
> MkIII Xtra, hollister Ca.
>
> PS.. I have decided to sell my Kolb , in case anyone is interested.. want
> to give this list the first notification before I post in Barnstormers.
>
> Cheers.
Thanks, Frank; another option to have in my pocket. Is this a clear
tape, or reinforced, or...? Any UV degradation over time?
Charlie
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There are several other types of gap seals that are less troublesome than the aircraft
fabric style.
2 or 3 inch wide strips of thin plastic can be attached to the underside of the
wing with double-stick tape, attached to the wing trailing edge only, with the
other edge of the plastic sliding against the bottom of the aileron as it moves.
The higher air pressure under the wing pushes the plastic up against the
aileron, forming a perfect seal.
A certain type of shelf paper or plastic first aid tape can be used to make a
"tape" seal. All you have to do is install the tape in such a way that full deflection
of the aileron does not stretch or tension the tape across the gap. Any
old broken down model airplane builder (guilty, your honor) can show you how
to do this.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Thu, 4/27/17, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/26/17
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Thursday, April 27, 2017, 10:54 AM
England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
On 4/27/2017 9:10 AM, B Young wrote:
>
> Clip
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for the info. Your
description is how I'm reading the plans. But
> I'm not sure how to manage a 12'
aileron (flaperon) and a 15' wing when
> I'll need to flip the assembly
numerous times while applying multiple
> finish coats, and keep the two
components aligned well enough to avoid
> peeling off the gap seal from at
least one side.
>
> Charlie
> End clip
>
> Another option...... Place
a few clekos in the hinge when moving /
> turning the wing, remove to
paint.
>
> Boyd Young mkiii utah
>
Thanks; that's occurred to me, but
painting them separately would be a
lot easier to do solo. I'll file it as
an option.
Charlie
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Subject: | Re: aileron gap seal: when? |
"John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Finishing tape is much more permanent. I've got serviceable gap seals after
> 25 years and more than 3400 hours service.
Absolutely true, a "Tape seal" is something that will have to be replaced every
few years. But it is quick and easy and cheap to do.
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Subject: | Re: aileron gap seal: when? |
Bill B/Kolbers:
Tape is "quick and easy".
I don't know that a couple strips of finishing tape is all that expensive.
Takes a little more time, but trim tape looks a lot more professional and 25 times
more serviceable if I based that opinion on changing out sticky tape once
a year.
There is more involved in replacing old tape that simply pulling off the old and
sticking on the new. There's the matter of cleaning up the old tape residue
that seems to remain more on the fabric than on the tape. I have yet to see
any sticky tape stay stuck when used as a gap seal, especially in the area of
that pusher prop.
I took a great deal of time and pride in my airplanes. It paid off.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: aileron gap seal: when?
"John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Finishing tape is much more permanent. I've got serviceable gap seals after
> 25 years and more than 3400 hours service.
Absolutely true, a "Tape seal" is something that will have to be replaced every
few years. But it is quick and easy and cheap to do.
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