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1. 05:47 AM - Re: Tires and Inner Tubes (George Helton)
2. 05:51 AM - Re: Tires and Inner Tubes (west1m)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: Tires and Inner Tubes (B Young)
4. 06:07 AM - Stuff happens (B Young)
5. 06:30 AM - Re: Stuff happens (west1m)
6. 09:51 AM - Re: 447 & prop for sale, need a 277 prop (Richard Pike)
7. 09:52 AM - Re: Tires and Inner Tubes (Bill Berle)
8. 12:05 PM - Re: Tires and Inner Tubes (Rick Neilsen)
9. 12:29 PM - Re: Tires and Inner Tubes (Bill Berle)
10. 01:49 PM - Re: Tires and Inner Tubes (Larry Cottrell)
11. 01:54 PM - Re: Tires and Inner Tubes (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | Re: Tires and Inner Tubes |
Okay, it was just a suggestion. I also run split rims. I think mine are made
by Hager and they have an o-ring that seals around split on the inside of t
he wheel which allow you to run tubeless tires. I also have run tubeless on M
atco aluminum wheels. Here's a picture of my current setup.
George H.
Firestar 1, #FS100
14GDH
gdhelton@gmail.com
Mesick, Michigan
Have a great day!
> On May 4, 2017, at 2:21 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> I had not thought of tubeless, only because I want to be able to change a t
ube out in the field if it becomes necessary. This requires a split rim, whi
ch does not allow tubeless mounting.
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
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> On Wed, 5/3/17, George Helton <gdhelton@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires and Inner Tubes
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 3, 2017, 2:47 PM
>
> Helton <gdhelton@gmail.com>
>
> Bill, have you considered going
> tubeless. A little less weight and a lot less hassle. Just a
> suggestion.
> George H.
> Firestar 1, #FS100
> 14GDH
> gdhelton@gmail.com
> Have a great day!
>
>> On May 3, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Bill
> Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted
> by: Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> Hi Kolbers,
>>
>> One of the (many) options I'm
> looking at for tires is to start off with the "usual
> suspects" (Carlisle Turf Glide 8.00 x 6) for the initial
> flights and familiarization... and then go to the larger
> "bush" tires after I have some experience in the airplane.
>>
>> The Carlisle tires are less
> expensive, so if I tear them up or puncture them while I'm
> learning how a Kolb flies it will set me back less money.
>>
>> But I cannot figure out what inner
> tube to use with these tires, and the local tire shop tells
> me they can get the tires but not the matching Carlisle
> inner tubes.
>>
>> Wal Mart's website shows a whole
> lot of inner tubes, but I can't seem to find the one for
> 8.00 x 6 tires.
>>
>> Even Carlisle's website does not
> appear to list an 8.00 x 6 inner tube.
>>
>> If I do start off with the Turf
> Glide tire, which make and model inner tube is the best for
> it?
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| Subject: | Re: Tires and Inner Tubes |
lcottrell wrote:
> Of all the things that you might break or ruin learning to fly a Kolb,
> tires are the last things that will suffer. I still have the original
> tires that came with my plane.
>
> Larry
Yup , But stuff does happen...
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West1m
Hastings, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Tires and Inner Tubes |
The old matco was split rim and has a tubeless option. The new style
matco rims don't have a temp place for the oring while bolting together the
halves. You may have to bolt it together, then stretch the oring over a
half. But I don't see a reason it won't work.
Boyd Young
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I see a flat tire,,,, what made it go flat??? and what was required
to fix it??? One more question in 2 parts, what tire and rim???
Boyd Young
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| Subject: | Re: Stuff happens |
The rim and tire were the ones from the "Black Max " brake kit ,
The rim was their wider of the two options. The hole was a just a generic puncture
from something on the runway. As for the repair, I had to use the courtesy
car go into town buy a tire, ratchet, extension, socket, two screwdrivers, and
lunch. installing it I had to throw about 4 bucks in to the quarter jar if you
know what that means.
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Hastings, MN
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| Subject: | Re: 447 & prop for sale, need a 277 prop |
The engine is no longer for sale, got a buyer. Thanks guys.
Matt: you can delete this thread if you wish.
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Richard Pike
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Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Tires and Inner Tubes |
On Wed, 5/3/17, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
> " If your primary use as I suspect will be on civilized runways the 800X6 would
be a good choice.
>
CIVILIZED ??? Well I've never been so insulted in all my life! :)
My whole reason for wanting a Kolb was to go out away from the city and explore
the non-civilized world. In Southern California we of course don't have much
of the swampy and rocky riverbed type of stuff they have up in Alaska. But I was
truly hoping to get as far off-road as is practicable (and safe) within the
limitations of this part of the country. Flying my old 172 around on the lunch
run, even within the boundaries of Los Angeles County, I've seen hundreds of
exotic places where I thought I might be able to land in a STOL type ultralight.
My home base is indeed a paved municipal airport; even the tiny little minimalist
12 inch Part 103 ultralight wheels will work there. It's the destinations and
places where there is no runway, even a road, that I want to be able to visit
safely.... and then get back out in one piece :)
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| Subject: | Re: Tires and Inner Tubes |
Bill/All
I have the Matco split wheels that came with the O ring. In practice I
wasn't able to keep air in the in the tires in tube less mode so I put
tubes in the tires. I not saying tubes are the answer as I have had to
replace tubes a few times. One time at airventure I landed with a totally
flat tire. John W almost landed on top of me because I stopped so quick.
The repair shop at airventure had a bead breaker that is absolutely
mandatory in getting the tire off the bead on my Matco wheels.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5/3/17, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > " If your primary use as I suspect will be on civilized runways the
> 800X6 would be a good choice.
> >
> CIVILIZED ??? Well I've never been so insulted in all my life! :)
>
> My whole reason for wanting a Kolb was to go out away from the city and
> explore the non-civilized world. In Southern California we of course don't
> have much of the swampy and rocky riverbed type of stuff they have up in
> Alaska. But I was truly hoping to get as far off-road as is practicable
> (and safe) within the limitations of this part of the country. Flying my
> old 172 around on the lunch run, even within the boundaries of Los Angeles
> County, I've seen hundreds of exotic places where I thought I might be able
> to land in a STOL type ultralight.
>
> My home base is indeed a paved municipal airport; even the tiny little
> minimalist 12 inch Part 103 ultralight wheels will work there. It's the
> destinations and places where there is no runway, even a road, that I want
> to be able to visit safely.... and then get back out in one piece :)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires and Inner Tubes |
Thanks Rick, that is exactly what I was afraid of... having to carry a bead breaker
in the back of a Firestar to fix a tire :)
I changed the tire on my 172 a week ago with nothing more than jumping on the tire
to get the bead loose.
Granted that when powered by gravity my corpulent a** generates quite a bit more
force than an FAA 170 pound pilot.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Thu, 5/4/17, Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires and Inner Tubes
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Thursday, May 4, 2017, 11:59 AM
Bill/All
I have the Matco split wheels that
came with the O ring. In practice I wasn't able to keep
air in the in the tires in tube less mode so I put tubes in
the tires. I not saying tubes are the answer as I have had
to replace tubes a few times. One time at airventure I
landed with a totally flat tire. John W almost landed on top
of me because I stopped so quick. The repair shop at
airventure had a bead breaker that is absolutely mandatory
in getting the tire off the bead on my Matco
wheels.
Rick NeilsenRedrive VW Powered
MKIIIC
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at
12:52 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
On Wed, 5/3/17, Larry
Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
> " If your primary use as I suspect will be on
civilized runways the 800X6 would be a good choice.
>
CIVILIZED ??? Well I've never been so insulted in
all my life! :)
My whole reason for wanting a Kolb was to go out away from
the city and explore the non-civilized world. In Southern
California we of course don't have much of the swampy
and rocky riverbed type of stuff they have up in Alaska. But
I was truly hoping to get as far off-road as is practicable
(and safe) within the limitations of this part of the
country. Flying my old 172 around on the lunch run, even
within the boundaries of Los Angeles County, I've seen
hundreds of exotic places where I thought I might be able to
land in a STOL type ultralight.
My home base is indeed a paved municipal airport; even the
tiny little minimalist 12 inch Part 103 ultralight wheels
will work there. It's the destinations and places where
there is no runway, even a road, that I want to be able to
visit safely.... and then get back out in one piece :)
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| Subject: | Re: Tires and Inner Tubes |
OK, then in that case there is no need to spend your money on anything
other than what you want to end up with. I wouldn't worry about
tearing up tires. The plane doesn't weigh enough to cause much wear on
what ever tires you decide on. I have spent much more on gear legs
than tires over my 20 year flying career.
Larry
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5/3/17, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> " If your primary use as I suspect will be on civilized runways the 800X6
would be a good choice.
>>
> CIVILIZED ??? Well I've never been so insulted in all my life! :)
>
> My whole reason for wanting a Kolb was to go out away from the city and explore
the non-civilized world. In Southern California we of course don't have much
of the swampy and rocky riverbed type of stuff they have up in Alaska. But I
was truly hoping to get as far off-road as is practicable (and safe) within the
limitations of this part of the country. Flying my old 172 around on the lunch
run, even within the boundaries of Los Angeles County, I've seen hundreds
of exotic places where I thought I might be able to land in a STOL type ultralight.
>
> My home base is indeed a paved municipal airport; even the tiny little minimalist
12 inch Part 103 ultralight wheels will work there. It's the destinations
and places where there is no runway, even a road, that I want to be able to visit
safely.... and then get back out in one piece :)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires and Inner Tubes |
For what its worth, I carry a can of "spare tire" right next to the
Gorrilla tape, and tie downs. Better to have a tire that is out of
balance than a flat one. A bicycle pump, ( the long slim ones that
they used to put on 10 speed bikes) is not a bad back country
companion as well.
Larry
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Rick, that is exactly what I was afraid of... having to carry a bead breaker
in the back of a Firestar to fix a tire :)
>
> I changed the tire on my 172 a week ago with nothing more than jumping on the
tire to get the bead loose.
>
> Granted that when powered by gravity my corpulent a** generates quite a bit more
force than an FAA 170 pound pilot.
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
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> On Thu, 5/4/17, Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires and Inner Tubes
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Thursday, May 4, 2017, 11:59 AM
>
> Bill/All
> I have the Matco split wheels that
> came with the O ring. In practice I wasn't able to keep
> air in the in the tires in tube less mode so I put tubes in
> the tires. I not saying tubes are the answer as I have had
> to replace tubes a few times. One time at airventure I
> landed with a totally flat tire. John W almost landed on top
> of me because I stopped so quick. The repair shop at
> airventure had a bead breaker that is absolutely mandatory
> in getting the tire off the bead on my Matco
> wheels.
> Rick NeilsenRedrive VW Powered
> MKIIIC
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at
> 12:52 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> On Wed, 5/3/17, Larry
> Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> > " If your primary use as I suspect will be on
> civilized runways the 800X6 would be a good choice.
>
> >
>
> CIVILIZED ??? Well I've never been so insulted in
> all my life! :)
>
>
> My whole reason for wanting a Kolb was to go out away from
> the city and explore the non-civilized world. In Southern
> California we of course don't have much of the swampy
> and rocky riverbed type of stuff they have up in Alaska. But
> I was truly hoping to get as far off-road as is practicable
> (and safe) within the limitations of this part of the
> country. Flying my old 172 around on the lunch run, even
> within the boundaries of Los Angeles County, I've seen
> hundreds of exotic places where I thought I might be able to
> land in a STOL type ultralight.
>
>
> My home base is indeed a paved municipal airport; even the
> tiny little minimalist 12 inch Part 103 ultralight wheels
> will work there. It's the destinations and places where
> there is no runway, even a road, that I want to be able to
> visit safely.... and then get back out in one piece :)
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