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1. 01:48 PM - Fuel Pump (Bill Berle)
2. 02:16 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (John Hauck)
3. 02:43 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Richard Girard)
4. 02:43 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Charlie England)
5. 03:01 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (John Hauck)
6. 03:08 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Bill Berle)
7. 03:20 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (George Helton)
8. 04:15 PM - Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Richard Pike)
9. 04:32 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (John Hauck)
10. 04:34 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (John Hauck)
11. 04:49 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Larry Cottrell)
12. 05:01 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Stuart Harner)
13. 05:38 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Stuart Harner)
14. 05:42 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Richard Girard)
15. 05:50 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (John Hauck)
16. 05:59 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Richard Girard)
17. 07:16 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Richard Pike)
18. 08:31 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Stuart Harner)
19. 08:48 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (George Helton)
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Howdy Kolbers,
Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square Facet fuel pumps to pump
the fuel out of the tanks?
A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with, and they seem really
heavy for what they do. Most everyone on the Kolb List has always said that excess
weight is the enemy, and that "you can feel every pound" you carry in the
Kolb.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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I've used Facet pumps since my FS days. They are reliable and last a long time.
Some Kolbers are completely nuts about saving the weight of a washer. Some are
not. I never intentionally went out of my way to save weight. The Kolb wing
is a heavy hauler. It will perform better when light, but it also will perform
when heavy.
I don't know of an alternative for the Facet. Before I incorporated 12VDC in my
FS I used a primer bulb and Mikuni pulse pump for fuel. My US used the Mikuni
pump on a Cuyuna ULII02. They all worked.
On the 912ULS I have a Facet boost pump and an engine driven pump. The engine
is happy working off the engine driven pump alone. The Facet pump fills the carb
float bowls and acts as emergency backup. I've had Mikuni pulse pumps fail,
but never an engine driven pump on a 912.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:48 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
Howdy Kolbers,
Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square Facet fuel pumps to pump
the fuel out of the tanks?
A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with, and they seem really
heavy for what they do. Most everyone on the Kolb List has always said that excess
weight is the enemy, and that "you can feel every pound" you carry in the
Kolb.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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Bill, It's almost impossible to beat the Facet for price and variety of
pressure ranges. What little extra weight they might bring is so slight as
to be inconsequential.
After a squeeze bulb shed a flapper valve and put me right back on the
runway (if it had happened the day before I'd have gone in the Arkansas
River) I put on the Facet and never looked back. Been pattering away for
over 10 years without so much as a hiccup.
Rick
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I've used Facet pumps since my FS days. They are reliable and last a lon
g
> time.
>
> Some Kolbers are completely nuts about saving the weight of a washer.
> Some are not. I never intentionally went out of my way to save weight.
> The Kolb wing is a heavy hauler. It will perform better when light, but
it
> also will perform when heavy.
>
> I don't know of an alternative for the Facet. Before I incorporated 12VD
C
> in my FS I used a primer bulb and Mikuni pulse pump for fuel. My US used
> the Mikuni pump on a Cuyuna ULII02. They all worked.
>
> On the 912ULS I have a Facet boost pump and an engine driven pump. The
> engine is happy working off the engine driven pump alone. The Facet pump
> fills the carb float bowls and acts as emergency backup. I've had Mikuni
> pulse pumps fail, but never an engine driven pump on a 912.
>
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:48 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
>
>
> Howdy Kolbers,
>
> Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square Facet fuel pumps
> to pump the fuel out of the tanks?
>
> A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with, and they seem
> really heavy for what they do. Most everyone on the Kolb List has always
> said that excess weight is the enemy, and that "you can feel every pound"
> you carry in the Kolb.
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
>
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If you find a better bacon saver for the weight, please let me know. As
long as you install a filter ahead of it at the recommended micron level
(around 100, IIRC), it will almost certainly outlast your grandkids. If you
don't use the filter, it may stop at any time (that you feed it dirt).
The only things that move in it are a plunger and a couple of check valves.
It doesn't even have electrical contacts to make/break internally.
Charlie
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On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>
> Howdy Kolbers,
>
> Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square Facet fuel pumps
> to pump the fuel out of the tanks?
>
> A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with, and they seem
> really heavy for what they do. Most everyone on the Kolb List has always
> said that excess weight is the enemy, and that "you can feel every pound"
> you carry in the Kolb.
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
>
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>
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I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel
web site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel
applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to
900,000 pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours
operation. Impressed me.
john h
mkIII
Titus, AL
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Thank you guys much!
I was already aware of the long-term reliability reputation of the Facet pumps,
they're certified in millions of GA airplanes. Just having a two pound+ steel
box sitting there in my hand was getting under my skin.
I'm definitely not one of those guys who seriously counts washers to save weight,
but I'm already !(#*%^ heavier than the average FAA 170 pounder, and the HKS
engine is 15-20 pounds heavier than the 503. And I'm using larger tires. And
the HKS requires a battery. And I'll need a transponder and radio at my airport.
I already removed the BRS chute to save weight (there were no aerobatics on my
agenda!), and I already made a firm decision to use this only as a single seat
aircraft.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Tue, 5/23/17, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 2:41 PM
If you find a better
bacon saver for the weight, please let me know. As long as
you install a filter ahead of it at the recommended micron
level (around 100, IIRC), it will almost certainly outlast
your grandkids. If you don't use the filter, it may stop
at any time (that you feed it dirt).
The only things that move in it are a plunger and
a couple of check valves. It doesn't even have
electrical contacts to make/break internally.
Charlie
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at 3:48 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Howdy Kolbers,
Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square
Facet fuel pumps to pump the fuel out of the tanks?
A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with,
and they seem really heavy for what they do. Most everyone
on the Kolb List has always said that excess weight is the
enemy, and that "you can feel every pound" you
carry in the Kolb.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
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entities
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Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a particul
ar model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax?
George H.
Firestar, FS#100
14GDH
Mesick, Mi
gdhelton@gmail.com
Have a great day!
> On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel we
b site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel applica
tions. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to 900,000 pumps a y
ear. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operation. Impressed m
e.
>
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, AL
>
>
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| Subject: | Rotsx 277 dual ignition |
Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair Hummer.
Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it to Mary
Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine.
Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade the
single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody got a copy
of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me from having
to reinvent what I can no longer remember?
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Rotsx 277 dual ignition |
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EAA-EXPERIMENTER-MAGAZINE-March-1990-Build-the-MI-Ba
by-Ace-Ignition-Rotax-277-/272646271140
If you want a copy bad enough to spend 10.00, try the above.
john h
mkIII
Titus, AL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition
--> <thegreybaron@charter.net>
Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair
Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it
to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine.
Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade
the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody
got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me
from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember?
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553
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2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the
maintenance manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over
pressurize the floats and needles.
john h
mkIII
Titus, AL
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helton
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a
particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax?
George H.
Firestar, FS#100
14GDH
Mesick, Mi
gdhelton@gmail.com
Have a great day!
On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel
web site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel
applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to
900,000 pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours
operation. Impressed me.
john h
mkIII
Titus, AL
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I think the max is 5 lbs, but the one that you mentioned is the one you need.
Larry
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the maintenance
> manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize the
> floats and needles.
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, AL
>
>
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helton
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
>
>
> Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a
> particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax?
>
>
> George H.
>
> Firestar, FS#100
>
> 14GDH
>
> Mesick, Mi
>
> gdhelton@gmail.com
>
>
> Have a great day!
>
>
> On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel web
> site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel
> applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to 900,000
> pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operation.
> Impressed me.
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, AL
>
>
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| Subject: | Rotsx 277 dual ignition |
Richard,
I have the Complete Archives of Sport Aviation on CD. It may be in there,
not sure.
Just tried installing it on my Windows 10 machine and it won't load. Grrr!
I'll keep hacking at it, or possibly fire up an old PC and see what I can
find.
If anybody else has a copy, please chime in.
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition
--> <thegreybaron@charter.net>
Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair
Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it
to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine.
Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade
the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody
got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me
from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember?
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553
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| Subject: | Rotsx 277 dual ignition |
Well, I did get the Archive set to install on an old PC.
Unfortunately your article was not in the archive. I don't think it included
Experimenter back then.
Best of luck finding it. Perhaps if you contact EAA they can find it for
you.
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition
--> <thegreybaron@charter.net>
Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair
Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it
to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine.
Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade
the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody
got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me
from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember?
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553
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What you want is model 40104. You can find the specs on all the Facet pumps
here:
http://www.facet-purolator.com/cube-fuel-pumps.php
Rick
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I think the max is 5 lbs, but the one that you mentioned is the one you
> need.
> Larry
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> > 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the maintenan
ce
> > manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize the
> > floats and needles.
> >
> >
> >
> > john h
> >
> > mkIII
> >
> > Titus, AL
> >
> >
> >
> > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helto
n
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a
> > particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax?
> >
> >
> >
> > George H.
> >
> > Firestar, FS#100
> >
> > 14GDH
> >
> > Mesick, Mi
> >
> > gdhelton@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Have a great day!
> >
> >
> > On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel
> web
> > site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel
> > applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to
> 900,000
> > pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operatio
n.
> > Impressed me.
> >
> >
> >
> > john h
> >
> > mkIII
> >
> > Titus, AL
> >
> >
>
>
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> others.
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| Subject: | Rotsx 277 dual ignition |
If you don't want to spend 10.00, I'd call EAA and get them to scan the
article and send it in an email. That's what we pay them dues for. Help.
;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EAA-EXPERIMENTER-MAGAZINE-March-1990-Build-the-MI-Ba
by-Ace-Ignition-Rotax-277-/272646271140
If you want a copy bad enough to spend 10.00, try the above.
john h
mkIII
Titus, AL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition
--> <thegreybaron@charter.net>
Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair
Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it
to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine.
Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade
the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody
got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me
from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember?
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition |
Unfortunately, the on-line archives only go back to 2012.
Rick
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Stuart Harner <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
wrote:
>
> Well, I did get the Archive set to install on an old PC.
>
> Unfortunately your article was not in the archive. I don't think it
> included
> Experimenter back then.
>
> Best of luck finding it. Perhaps if you contact EAA they can find it for
> you.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition
>
> --> <thegreybaron@charter.net>
>
> Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxai
r
> Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent
it
> to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter
> magazine.
>
> Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgra
de
> the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody
> got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me
> from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember?
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition |
John Hauck wrote:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/EAA-EXPERIMENTER-MAGAZINE-March-1990-Build-the-MI-Ba
> by-Ace-Ignition-Rotax-277-/272646271140
>
>
> If you want a copy bad enough to spend 10.00, try the above.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, AL
>
> --
Thank you, I'll get it!
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Rotsx 277 dual ignition |
My Archives on CD were a Christmas present many years ago. I have
(supposedly) every Sport Aviation from 1953 through 2001.
I had hoped that would include the Experimenter magazine, but apparently
not. The EAA web address for updates and support no longer functions. I
have emailed customer support to see if they have an install program for
operating systems newer than Windows XP.
If I remember right, Experimenter was a separate publication back then,
then it wasn=99t available for a while and now it is included in
the SA magazine.
Oh well,
Stuart
Do not archive
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition
Unfortunately, the on-line archives only go back to 2012.
Rick
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Stuart Harner <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
wrote:
Well, I did get the Archive set to install on an old PC.
Unfortunately your article was not in the archive. I don't think it
included
Experimenter back then.
Best of luck finding it. Perhaps if you contact EAA they can find it for
you.
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition
--> <thegreybaron@charter.net>
Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my
Maxair
Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent
it
to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter
magazine.
Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to
upgrade
the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article.
Anybody
got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me
from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember?
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553
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Thank you for all information you Kolbers posted on this fuel pump, facet 40
104. This may seem like a strange question to most but. Can I run this off o
f a standard small Rotax rectified voltage regulator without using a battery
? Thanks.
George H.
Have a great day!
> On May 23, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What you want is model 40104. You can find the specs on all the Facet pump
s here:
>
> http://www.facet-purolator.com/cube-fuel-pumps.php
>
> Rick
>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> I think the max is 5 lbs, but the one that you mentioned is the one you n
eed.
>> Larry
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>> > 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the maintenan
ce
>> > manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize the
>> > floats and needles.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > john h
>> >
>> > mkIII
>> >
>> > Titus, AL
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helto
n
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM
>> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a
>> > particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > George H.
>> >
>> > Firestar, FS#100
>> >
>> > 14GDH
>> >
>> > Mesick, Mi
>> >
>> > gdhelton@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Have a great day!
>> >
>> >
>> > On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel
web
>> > site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel
>> > applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to 900,
000
>> > pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operatio
n.
>> > Impressed me.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > john h
>> >
>> > mkIII
>> >
>> > Titus, AL
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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