---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/23/17: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:48 PM - Fuel Pump (Bill Berle) 2. 02:16 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (John Hauck) 3. 02:43 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Richard Girard) 4. 02:43 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Charlie England) 5. 03:01 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (John Hauck) 6. 03:08 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Bill Berle) 7. 03:20 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (George Helton) 8. 04:15 PM - Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Richard Pike) 9. 04:32 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (John Hauck) 10. 04:34 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (John Hauck) 11. 04:49 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Larry Cottrell) 12. 05:01 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Stuart Harner) 13. 05:38 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Stuart Harner) 14. 05:42 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (Richard Girard) 15. 05:50 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (John Hauck) 16. 05:59 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Richard Girard) 17. 07:16 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Richard Pike) 18. 08:31 PM - Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition (Stuart Harner) 19. 08:48 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (George Helton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:49 PM PST US From: Bill Berle Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump Howdy Kolbers, Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square Facet fuel pumps to pump the fuel out of the tanks? A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with, and they seem really heavy for what they do. Most everyone on the Kolb List has always said that excess weight is the enemy, and that "you can feel every pound" you carry in the Kolb. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities ---- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:16:56 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump I've used Facet pumps since my FS days. They are reliable and last a long time. Some Kolbers are completely nuts about saving the weight of a washer. Some are not. I never intentionally went out of my way to save weight. The Kolb wing is a heavy hauler. It will perform better when light, but it also will perform when heavy. I don't know of an alternative for the Facet. Before I incorporated 12VDC in my FS I used a primer bulb and Mikuni pulse pump for fuel. My US used the Mikuni pump on a Cuyuna ULII02. They all worked. On the 912ULS I have a Facet boost pump and an engine driven pump. The engine is happy working off the engine driven pump alone. The Facet pump fills the carb float bowls and acts as emergency backup. I've had Mikuni pulse pumps fail, but never an engine driven pump on a 912. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:48 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump Howdy Kolbers, Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square Facet fuel pumps to pump the fuel out of the tanks? A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with, and they seem really heavy for what they do. Most everyone on the Kolb List has always said that excess weight is the enemy, and that "you can feel every pound" you carry in the Kolb. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities ---- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:35 PM PST US From: Richard Girard Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump Bill, It's almost impossible to beat the Facet for price and variety of pressure ranges. What little extra weight they might bring is so slight as to be inconsequential. After a squeeze bulb shed a flapper valve and put me right back on the runway (if it had happened the day before I'd have gone in the Arkansas River) I put on the Facet and never looked back. Been pattering away for over 10 years without so much as a hiccup. Rick On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > I've used Facet pumps since my FS days. They are reliable and last a lon g > time. > > Some Kolbers are completely nuts about saving the weight of a washer. > Some are not. I never intentionally went out of my way to save weight. > The Kolb wing is a heavy hauler. It will perform better when light, but it > also will perform when heavy. > > I don't know of an alternative for the Facet. Before I incorporated 12VD C > in my FS I used a primer bulb and Mikuni pulse pump for fuel. My US used > the Mikuni pump on a Cuyuna ULII02. They all worked. > > On the 912ULS I have a Facet boost pump and an engine driven pump. The > engine is happy working off the engine driven pump alone. The Facet pump > fills the carb float bowls and acts as emergency backup. I've had Mikuni > pulse pumps fail, but never an engine driven pump on a 912. > > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:48 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump > > > Howdy Kolbers, > > Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square Facet fuel pumps > to pump the fuel out of the tanks? > > A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with, and they seem > really heavy for what they do. Most everyone on the Kolb List has always > said that excess weight is the enemy, and that "you can feel every pound" > you carry in the Kolb. > > > Bill Berle > www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft > www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and > for-profit entities > > ---- > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:45 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump If you find a better bacon saver for the weight, please let me know. As long as you install a filter ahead of it at the recommended micron level (around 100, IIRC), it will almost certainly outlast your grandkids. If you don't use the filter, it may stop at any time (that you feed it dirt). The only things that move in it are a plunger and a couple of check valves. It doesn't even have electrical contacts to make/break internally. Charlie Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Bill Berle wrote: > > Howdy Kolbers, > > Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square Facet fuel pumps > to pump the fuel out of the tanks? > > A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with, and they seem > really heavy for what they do. Most everyone on the Kolb List has always > said that excess weight is the enemy, and that "you can feel every pound" > you carry in the Kolb. > > > Bill Berle > www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft > www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and > for-profit entities > > ---- > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:42 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel web site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to 900,000 pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operation. Impressed me. john h mkIII Titus, AL ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:49 PM PST US From: Bill Berle Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump Thank you guys much! I was already aware of the long-term reliability reputation of the Facet pumps, they're certified in millions of GA airplanes. Just having a two pound+ steel box sitting there in my hand was getting under my skin. I'm definitely not one of those guys who seriously counts washers to save weight, but I'm already !(#*%^ heavier than the average FAA 170 pounder, and the HKS engine is 15-20 pounds heavier than the 503. And I'm using larger tires. And the HKS requires a battery. And I'll need a transponder and radio at my airport. I already removed the BRS chute to save weight (there were no aerobatics on my agenda!), and I already made a firm decision to use this only as a single seat aircraft. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 5/23/17, Charlie England wrote: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 2:41 PM If you find a better bacon saver for the weight, please let me know. As long as you install a filter ahead of it at the recommended micron level (around 100, IIRC), it will almost certainly outlast your grandkids. If you don't use the filter, it may stop at any time (that you feed it dirt). The only things that move in it are a plunger and a couple of check valves. It doesn't even have electrical contacts to make/break internally. Charlie Virus-free. www.avast.com On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Bill Berle wrote: Bill Berle Howdy Kolbers, Has anyone found a good alternative to the little square Facet fuel pumps to pump the fuel out of the tanks? A friend of mine gave me one or two of them to play with, and they seem really heavy for what they do. Most everyone on the Kolb List has always said that excess weight is the enemy, and that "you can feel every pound" you carry in the Kolb. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities ---- ==== ============================== = -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ Navigator?Kolb-List ==== ============================== = FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com ==== ============================== = WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com ==== ============================== = b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ contribution ==== ============================== = ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:15 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a particul ar model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax? George H. Firestar, FS#100 14GDH Mesick, Mi gdhelton@gmail.com Have a great day! > On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > > I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel we b site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel applica tions. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to 900,000 pumps a y ear. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operation. Impressed m e. > > > > john h > > mkIII > > Titus, AL > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:59 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition From: "Richard Pike" Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine. Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:58 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition http://www.ebay.com/itm/EAA-EXPERIMENTER-MAGAZINE-March-1990-Build-the-MI-Ba by-Ace-Ignition-Rotax-277-/272646271140 If you want a copy bad enough to spend 10.00, try the above. john h mkIII Titus, AL -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition --> Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine. Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:34:29 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the maintenance manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize the floats and needles. john h mkIII Titus, AL From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helton Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax? George H. Firestar, FS#100 14GDH Mesick, Mi gdhelton@gmail.com Have a great day! On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck wrote: I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel web site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to 900,000 pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operation. Impressed me. john h mkIII Titus, AL ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:29 PM PST US From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump I think the max is 5 lbs, but the one that you mentioned is the one you need. Larry On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM, John Hauck wrote: > 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the maintenance > manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize the > floats and needles. > > > john h > > mkIII > > Titus, AL > > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helton > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump > > > Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a > particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax? > > > George H. > > Firestar, FS#100 > > 14GDH > > Mesick, Mi > > gdhelton@gmail.com > > > Have a great day! > > > On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > > I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel web > site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel > applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to 900,000 > pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operation. > Impressed me. > > > john h > > mkIII > > Titus, AL > > -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:01:21 PM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition Richard, I have the Complete Archives of Sport Aviation on CD. It may be in there, not sure. Just tried installing it on my Windows 10 machine and it won't load. Grrr! I'll keep hacking at it, or possibly fire up an old PC and see what I can find. If anybody else has a copy, please chime in. Stuart -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition --> Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine. Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:39 PM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition Well, I did get the Archive set to install on an old PC. Unfortunately your article was not in the archive. I don't think it included Experimenter back then. Best of luck finding it. Perhaps if you contact EAA they can find it for you. Stuart -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition --> Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine. Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:18 PM PST US From: Richard Girard Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump What you want is model 40104. You can find the specs on all the Facet pumps here: http://www.facet-purolator.com/cube-fuel-pumps.php Rick On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > > I think the max is 5 lbs, but the one that you mentioned is the one you > need. > Larry > > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the maintenan ce > > manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize the > > floats and needles. > > > > > > > > john h > > > > mkIII > > > > Titus, AL > > > > > > > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helto n > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM > > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump > > > > > > > > Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a > > particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax? > > > > > > > > George H. > > > > Firestar, FS#100 > > > > 14GDH > > > > Mesick, Mi > > > > gdhelton@gmail.com > > > > > > > > Have a great day! > > > > > > On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > > > > > > > I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel > web > > site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel > > applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to > 900,000 > > pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operatio n. > > Impressed me. > > > > > > > > john h > > > > mkIII > > > > Titus, AL > > > > > > > -- > The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of > others. > > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending. =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:28 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition If you don't want to spend 10.00, I'd call EAA and get them to scan the article and send it in an email. That's what we pay them dues for. Help. ;-) john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:33 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition http://www.ebay.com/itm/EAA-EXPERIMENTER-MAGAZINE-March-1990-Build-the-MI-Ba by-Ace-Ignition-Rotax-277-/272646271140 If you want a copy bad enough to spend 10.00, try the above. john h mkIII Titus, AL -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition --> Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine. Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:26 PM PST US From: Richard Girard Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition Unfortunately, the on-line archives only go back to 2012. Rick On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > Well, I did get the Archive set to install on an old PC. > > Unfortunately your article was not in the archive. I don't think it > included > Experimenter back then. > > Best of luck finding it. Perhaps if you contact EAA they can find it for > you. > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition > > --> > > Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxai r > Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it > to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter > magazine. > > Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgra de > the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody > got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me > from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember? > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > > Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:16:58 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Rotsx 277 dual ignition From: "Richard Pike" John Hauck wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/EAA-EXPERIMENTER-MAGAZINE-March-1990-Build-the-MI-Ba > by-Ace-Ignition-Rotax-277-/272646271140 > > > If you want a copy bad enough to spend 10.00, try the above. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, AL > > -- Thank you, I'll get it! -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469567#469567 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:24 PM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition My Archives on CD were a Christmas present many years ago. I have (supposedly) every Sport Aviation from 1953 through 2001. I had hoped that would include the Experimenter magazine, but apparently not. The EAA web address for updates and support no longer functions. I have emailed customer support to see if they have an install program for operating systems newer than Windows XP. If I remember right, Experimenter was a separate publication back then, then it wasn=99t available for a while and now it is included in the SA magazine. Oh well, Stuart Do not archive From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition Unfortunately, the on-line archives only go back to 2012. Rick On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Stuart Harner wrote: Well, I did get the Archive set to install on an old PC. Unfortunately your article was not in the archive. I don't think it included Experimenter back then. Best of luck finding it. Perhaps if you contact EAA they can find it for you. Stuart -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotsx 277 dual ignition --> Back in the 80's I designed a dual ignition for the Rotax 277 on my Maxair Hummer. Since it was simple and reliable, I wrote up an article and sent it to Mary Jones, and she published it in the March 1990 Experimenter magazine. Now I have a 277 going on the Firefly, and would like to be able to upgrade the single ignition, but I no longer have a copy of that article. Anybody got a copy of the magazine you could scan and send me that page? Save me from having to reinvent what I can no longer remember? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469553#469553 -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:12 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump Thank you for all information you Kolbers posted on this fuel pump, facet 40 104. This may seem like a strange question to most but. Can I run this off o f a standard small Rotax rectified voltage regulator without using a battery ? Thanks. George H. Have a great day! > On May 23, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > > What you want is model 40104. You can find the specs on all the Facet pump s here: > > http://www.facet-purolator.com/cube-fuel-pumps.php > > Rick > >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: >> >> I think the max is 5 lbs, but the one that you mentioned is the one you n eed. >> Larry >> >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM, John Hauck wrote: >> > 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the maintenan ce >> > manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize the >> > floats and needles. >> > >> > >> > >> > john h >> > >> > mkIII >> > >> > Titus, AL >> > >> > >> > >> > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com >> > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helto n >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM >> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a >> > particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax? >> > >> > >> > >> > George H. >> > >> > Firestar, FS#100 >> > >> > 14GDH >> > >> > Mesick, Mi >> > >> > gdhelton@gmail.com >> > >> > >> > >> > Have a great day! >> > >> > >> > On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diesel web >> > site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel >> > applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to 900, 000 >> > pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operatio n. >> > Impressed me. >> > >> > >> > >> > john h >> > >> > mkIII >> > >> > Titus, AL >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of ot hers. >> >> If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email >> address before sending. >> ========================= === >> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?Kolb-List >> ========================= >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========================= >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========================= >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========================= >> >> >> > > > > -- > =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho Marx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.