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1. 02:50 AM - Re: Fuel Pump (Richard Girard)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: Fuel Pump (George Helton)
3. 05:07 AM - Re: Fuel Pump (John Hauck)
4. 07:15 AM - Re: Fuel Pump (B Young)
5. 04:24 PM - Re: Fuel Pump (George Helton)
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12 volts DC is 12 volts DC. Yes, it should work but you'd lose the
advantage the electric pump brings, getting fuel to the carb(s) for easy
starting. You also wouldn't be able to hear the little Facet's "thump
thump" that lets you know it's working.
Rick
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:45 PM, George Helton <gdhelton@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for all information you Kolbers posted on this fuel pump, facet
> 40104. This may seem like a strange question to most but. Can I run this
> off of a standard small Rotax rectified voltage regulator without using a
> battery? Thanks.
> George H.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> On May 23, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What you want is model 40104. You can find the specs on all the Facet
> pumps here:
>
> http://www.facet-purolator.com/cube-fuel-pumps.php
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I think the max is 5 lbs, but the one that you mentioned is the one you
>> need.
>> Larry
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote
:
>> > 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the
>> maintenance
>> > manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize the
>> > floats and needles.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > john h
>> >
>> > mkIII
>> >
>> > Titus, AL
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George
>> Helton
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM
>> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a
>> > particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > George H.
>> >
>> > Firestar, FS#100
>> >
>> > 14GDH
>> >
>> > Mesick, Mi
>> >
>> > gdhelton@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Have a great day!
>> >
>> >
>> > On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Diese
l
>> web
>> > site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel
>> > applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to
>> 900,000
>> > pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours
>> operation.
>> > Impressed me.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > john h
>> >
>> > mkIII
>> >
>> > Titus, AL
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Good information, Rick. Thanks! I think I'll order a pump.
George
Have a great day!
> On May 24, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 12 volts DC is 12 volts DC. Yes, it should work but you'd lose the advanta
ge the electric pump brings, getting fuel to the carb(s) for easy starting. Y
ou also wouldn't be able to hear the little Facet's "thump thump" that lets y
ou know it's working.
>
> Rick
>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:45 PM, George Helton <gdhelton@gmail.com> wrot
e:
>> Thank you for all information you Kolbers posted on this fuel pump, facet
40104. This may seem like a strange question to most but. Can I run this of
f of a standard small Rotax rectified voltage regulator without using a batt
ery? Thanks.
>> George H.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>>> On May 23, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What you want is model 40104. You can find the specs on all the Facet pu
mps here:
>>>
>>> http://www.facet-purolator.com/cube-fuel-pumps.php
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.co
m> wrote:
m>
>>>>
>>>> I think the max is 5 lbs, but the one that you mentioned is the one you
need.
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrot
e:
>>>> > 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the mainten
ance
>>>> > manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize th
e
>>>> > floats and needles.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > john h
>>>> >
>>>> > mkIII
>>>> >
>>>> > Titus, AL
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Hel
ton
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM
>>>> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>>> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a
>>>> > particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > George H.
>>>> >
>>>> > Firestar, FS#100
>>>> >
>>>> > 14GDH
>>>> >
>>>> > Mesick, Mi
>>>> >
>>>> > gdhelton@gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Have a great day!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat Dies
el web
>>>> > site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel
>>>> > applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to 90
0,000
>>>> > pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours operat
ion.
>>>> > Impressed me.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > john h
>>>> >
>>>> > mkIII
>>>> >
>>>> > Titus, AL
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of o
thers.
>>>>
>>>> If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
>>>> address before sending.
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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=9D Groucho Marx
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
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Install a small battery, a Facet fuel pump, and get rid of the squeeze
bulb.
john h
mkIII
Titus, AL
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helton
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
Good information, Rick. Thanks! I think I'll order a pump.
George
Have a great day!
On May 24, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
12 volts DC is 12 volts DC. Yes, it should work but you'd lose the
advantage the electric pump brings, getting fuel to the carb(s) for easy
starting. You also wouldn't be able to hear the little Facet's "thump
thump" that lets you know it's working.
Rick
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:45 PM, George Helton <gdhelton@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank you for all information you Kolbers posted on this fuel pump,
facet 40104. This may seem like a strange question to most but. Can I
run this off of a standard small Rotax rectified voltage regulator
without using a battery? Thanks.
George H.
Have a great day!
On May 23, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
What you want is model 40104. You can find the specs on all the Facet
pumps here:
http://www.facet-purolator.com/cube-fuel-pumps.php
Rick
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Larry Cottrell
<lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
<lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
I think the max is 5 lbs, but the one that you mentioned is the one you
need.
Larry
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
wrote:
> 2.5 to 3.0 psi Facet should work ok. I'd have to dig out the
maintenance
> manual to get the exact psi max. Important not to over pressurize the
> floats and needles.
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, AL
>
>
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George
Helton
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:20 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Pump
>
>
> Hi guys, these facet fuel pump are something new for me. Is there a
> particular model I should use to feed a 377 Rotax?
>
>
> George H.
>
> Firestar, FS#100
>
> 14GDH
>
> Mesick, Mi
>
> gdhelton@gmail.com
>
>
> Have a great day!
>
>
> On May 23, 2017, at 6:01 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was trying to find out how Facets operate and discovered a Cat
Diesel web
> site. Didn't know it, but Cat uses Facets on some of their diesel
> applications. They were explaining that Facet produces 800,000 to
900,000
> pumps a year. They also recommend replacing at 10,000.0 hours
operation.
> Impressed me.
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, AL
>
>
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others.
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light.=9D
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George
I think that you could run the fuel pump on the regulator without a
battery...... BUT ...... information i learned about the voltage regulator
is they do better (don't burn out as easily) if they have a small
constant load. Charging the battery creates a constant load on the
regulator... Another easy way is to run some lights on the voltage
regulator output.
With or without a battery, you should still have a capasitor to smooth out
the voltage spikes.
Boyd Young
Clip
This may seem like a strange question to most but. Can I run this off of a
standard small Rotax rectified voltage regulator without using a battery?
Thanks.
> George H.
>
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Thanks, Boyd. I just ordered a new voltage regulator, 40104 Facet fuel pump a
nd the small battery that George A. Suggested. I appreciate all the input th
at you guys have given me. Hope test fly my Firestar (original) this Friday.
Weather permitting.
George H.
Firestar, FS#100
14GDH
gdhelton@gmail.com
Have a great day!
> On May 24, 2017, at 10:15 AM, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> George
> I think that you could run the fuel pump on the regulator without a batter
y...... BUT ...... information i learned about the voltage regulator is the
y do better (don't burn out as easily) if they have a small constant load
. Charging the battery creates a constant load on the regulator... Another
easy way is to run some lights on the voltage regulator output.
> With or without a battery, you should still have a capasitor to smooth ou
t the voltage spikes.
>
> Boyd Young
>
> Clip
>
> This may seem like a strange question to most but. Can I run this off of a
standard small Rotax rectified voltage regulator without using a battery? T
hanks.
> > George H.
> >
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