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1. 07:38 AM - Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! (Richard Pike)
2. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! (Bill Berle)
3. 09:50 AM - Re: trailering a fire fly (west1m)
4. 01:01 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Pump (George Helton)
5. 01:13 PM - Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! (Richard Pike)
6. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! (Charlie England)
7. 06:37 PM - Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! (Richard Pike)
8. 06:48 PM - Non-Kolb related (Richard Pike)
9. 07:44 PM - Re: Non-Kolb related (3benny3)
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| Subject: | Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! |
victorbravo(at)sbcglobal. wrote:
> Immediately it was obvious to both of us that there was a somewhat serious
control problem. The control force on the ailerons was very heavy, and it took
two hands to roll the aircraft to the right. One hand, but heavy, to make a
left roll/turn.
>
> I was given control of the aircraft, and experienced this first hand. The roll
rate to the right was atrocious and took both hands to accomplish.
Sitting here going through my airframe logbook, I kept notes of how I sorted my
MKIII out - try raising the trailing edge of both your flaps and ailerons by
a few degrees. It will lighten both pitch and roll control input force somewhat.
One of the stock Kolb characteristics is heavy ailerons. My solution was to change
the bellcrank throw length to make it easier to move the aileron under load.
Air loads cause the aileron torque tube to twist, so if it is only going to
move just so far anyway, why not make it easier? Some have objected that they
want all the control authority they can get, and they don't want to give up any
control authority by reducing aileron movement, but in practice it doesn't
work out that way.
For what it's worth, at the last Kolb fly-n before his untimely death, Norm Labheart
took my MKIII up and wrung it out solo for about 20 minutes, landed and
said it was the best handling MKIII he had ever flown. I haven't changed it since.
http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/pg7.htm
http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/FSII%20ailerons.html
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! |
Thank you Richard, I will forward your solutions to the aircraft owner.
Has anyone just removed the flaps on the Mk 3 as a way to reduce the aileron forces?
Are there versions of the Mk 3 that do not have flaps? What problems would
be caused if the flaps were removed?
Has anyone installed the "spades" or "shovels" on the ailerons like the aerbatic
guys have on their ailerons?
Between the first and second flights on this Mk 3, the owner moved the control
rods in toward the center of the bellcrank arm. I am hearing that this is a common
decision made by Kolb owners. It may have helped a little, but in this case
we had a more significant problem with the aircraft nearly unable to roll to
the right.
I am also going to suggest that the owner lengthen the control sticks so that more
force can be applied to the system by the pilot. This will make it harder
to get in and out of the airplane, but that is manageable.
Bill Berle
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| Subject: | Re: trailering a fire fly |
I measured the ones for my Firefly. tubes are 1" PVC 40 inches long with the knot
holes at 38". (I forgot to measure the distance between)
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Hastings, MN
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Question on installation of the 24V 22000uf capacitor do I just put it betwe
en the positive & negative posts on the battery or positive to ground at the
Fuel pump? Thanks in advance. George H.
Have a great day!
> On May 28, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
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> George, Congrats on the return to flight. Always good to hear that another
Kolb is back in the air.
> I ran a Facet on my Mk III above the tanks, probably 20 inches of lift and
never a problem. Just replumbed the fuel system on my HKS powered trike. A
Facet in series with a Mikuni DF52. Flight tested it with a five minute clim
b at full power with the Facet off. The little HKS never missed a beat. Tota
l lift for the Mikuni about 26 inches.
> Safe flying,
> Rick
>
>> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 8:56 PM, George Helton <gdhelton@gmail.com> wrote
:
>> Thanks for asking the same question that I had about still using the puls
e pump along with the facet electric pump. I like redundancy when it comes t
o aircraft fuel systems. And thanks all the good information that was genera
ted.
>> I ordered a new rectifier/ regulator, 24V 22000uf capacitor and a 40104 f
uel pump last week and am waiting for everything to come. I'm going to run s
ome lift tests before mounting the new pump simply because I would like to m
ount the facet pump above my fuel tank if it lifts sufficiently? Time will t
ell?
>> Oh yeah guys I flew my restored Firestar (original) yesterday! It was its
first flight in 28 years and it was sweet.
>>
>>
>> George H.
>> Firestar #FS100
>> Mesick, Michigan
>> gdhelton@gmail.com
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> > On May 27, 2017, at 3:19 PM, west1m <west1m@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> >
>> > Does anyone pump in series (or through) their Mikuni fuel pump?
>> > I ask as I had a wire break off my regulator and eventually lost all po
wer to gauges, EIS and GPS before getting back to home field. It would have b
een a much shorter flight with only the Facet pump.
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>> > West1m
>> > Hastings, MN
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>> > Read this topic online here:
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>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469643#469643
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| Subject: | Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! |
The owner needs to get somebody who is knowledgeable about MKIII's to go over the
airplane carefully because something is wrong with it. Normal MKIII aileron
forces are not that bad, you & he need to go fly in a normal Kolb to see what
normalcy is. Yes, unmodified they are heavy, but no way are they 2 handed heavy
to the point of being almost unmanagable as you describe.
There are a number of posts about this topic in the archives.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
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| Subject: | Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! |
On 5/29/2017 3:13 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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> The owner needs to get somebody who is knowledgeable about MKIII's to go over
the airplane carefully because something is wrong with it. Normal MKIII aileron
forces are not that bad, you & he need to go fly in a normal Kolb to see what
normalcy is. Yes, unmodified they are heavy, but no way are they 2 handed heavy
to the point of being almost unmanagable as you describe.
>
> There are a number of posts about this topic in the archives.
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> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Also, asymmetric L/R roll forces make no sense on *any* a/c. Strong
indicator that it's badly out of rig. (Unless one of you is 60 lbs & the
other is 350....)
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| Subject: | Re: The Kolb Quit strikes again! |
ceengland7(at)gmail.com wrote:
> (Unless one of you is 60 lbs & the
> other is 350....)
Years ago I took a guy for a ride and I don't know what he weighed, but he was
firmly wedged against the control tube that runs down the center of the cockpit
- I would guess 300+ pounds easy. And I weigh 200. The only thing I really noticed
as out of the ordinary was that the rate of climb was like a Cessna 150
on a hot day, and I didn't dare use any flaps. Handling seemed normal, but OTOH
I was being VERY discreet...
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
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| Subject: | Non-Kolb related |
A friend showed me this video yesterday, the individual involved was 74 years old at the time and was still an active/Top Gun rated test pilot. This first link is his credentials - http://russelloquinn.com/bio.htm
This next link is his personal testimony - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0qfEi3fDmw
SNOWFLAKE WARNING: this has Christian references in it! if you are offended by
religious content, please do not traumatize yourself by watching it!
And don't come complaining at me either - I'm a retired preacher, it's still what
I do, and I really don't care if your panties are in a wad. You were warned.
Get over it. It's a great video, and an inspiration for those of us who are
on the back side of 70 and love to fly.
ATTN: Matt Dralle: Do Not Archive
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
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| Subject: | Re: Non-Kolb related |
Thanks for the share!
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