---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/02/17: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:50 AM - Re: New from Utah (Richard Pike) 2. 06:04 AM - kolb-list stopped (Richard Swiderski) 3. 06:29 AM - Re: Video (west1m) 4. 03:23 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Pump (George Helton) 5. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Pump (Bill Berle) 6. 04:07 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Pump (George Helton) 7. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Pump (Jim Thomson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:02 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New from Utah From: "Richard Pike" Back when I had a 532 on my MKIII, I found it worked really well with a two blade 66" Ivo. Initially I had a three blade 64" Ivo and that was just too much prop for the somewhat pipey 532. Took away one of the blades and it ran really happy, enough so that I could go to the next longer size Ivo, and that worked good too. Then I replaced the points ignition with one of Airscrew Performance's CDI ignition systems and was pleased with it. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469792#469792 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:43 AM PST US From: Richard Swiderski Subject: Kolb-List: kolb-list stopped Matt, My kolb-list digest stopped coming as of as of 5/24/17. They do not show up on my gmail search, they are not under any other tab, or in spam or trash. No filters with kolb exist. My gmail is functioning normally, just not receiving the kolb-list. Your help would be greatly appreciated. -Richard Swiderski -- *Click on to Richard's Blog: * *Thoughts On God And Life -**Prose, * *Prayers, Poems & Ponderings * ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:26 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Video From: "west1m" Great Video Larry, keep 'em coming! -------- West1m Hastings, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469794#469794 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:10 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Pump This is thanks to you Kolbers who contributed to my request for information o n the Facet fuel pump. I had to add an electrical system to my 1986 Firestar as I'd never really needed one before. I used pretty much all of your input . Here's what I came up with and it seems to work quite well. I fabricated a mount plate that mounts to the aft cage section directly unde r the engine mounts. It's mounted using 4 ea. Steel with rubber insulated ha rness clamps. The mounting plate includes the rectifier/voltage regulator, Fa cet 40104 fuel pump, 25v22000uf capiciter and sealed lead acid Duracell 12 v olt battery. I think the total cost was around $130.00 including wiring and a master power switch. Total weight came out to 3.8 pounds. Here's a couple o f pictures. Before and after installation. Thank you all your help. George H. Firestar, FS#100 14GDH Mesick, Michigan gdhelton@gmail.com Have a great day! > On May 28, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > > George, Congrats on the return to flight. Always good to hear that another Kolb is back in the air. > I ran a Facet on my Mk III above the tanks, probably 20 inches of lift and never a problem. Just replumbed the fuel system on my HKS powered trike. A Facet in series with a Mikuni DF52. Flight tested it with a five minute clim b at full power with the Facet off. The little HKS never missed a beat. Tota l lift for the Mikuni about 26 inches. > Safe flying, > Rick > >> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 8:56 PM, George Helton wrote : >> Thanks for asking the same question that I had about still using the puls e pump along with the facet electric pump. I like redundancy when it comes t o aircraft fuel systems. And thanks all the good information that was genera ted. >> I ordered a new rectifier/ regulator, 24V 22000uf capacitor and a 40104 f uel pump last week and am waiting for everything to come. I'm going to run s ome lift tests before mounting the new pump simply because I would like to m ount the facet pump above my fuel tank if it lifts sufficiently? Time will t ell? >> Oh yeah guys I flew my restored Firestar (original) yesterday! It was its first flight in 28 years and it was sweet. >> >> >> George H. >> Firestar #FS100 >> Mesick, Michigan >> gdhelton@gmail.com >> >> Have a great day! >> >> > On May 27, 2017, at 3:19 PM, west1m wrote: >> > >> > >> > Does anyone pump in series (or through) their Mikuni fuel pump? >> > I ask as I had a wire break off my regulator and eventually lost all po wer to gauges, EIS and GPS before getting back to home field. It would have b een a much shorter flight with only the Facet pump. >> > >> > -------- >> > West1m >> > Hastings, MN >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469643#469643 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ========== >> ========== >> ========== >> ========== >> ========== >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho Marx > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:41 PM PST US From: Bill Berle Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Pump PLEASE be careful with having fuel lines and seals and connections just a few inches from a battery and electrical connections ! Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 6/2/17, George Helton wrote: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Pump To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, June 2, 2017, 3:22 PM This is thanks to you Kolbers who contributed to my request for information on the Facet fuel pump. I had to add an electrical system to my 1986 Firestar as I'd never really needed one before. I used pretty much all of your input. Here's what I came up with and it seems to work quite well.I fabricated a mount plate that mounts to the aft cage section directly under the engine mounts. It's mounted using 4 ea. Steel with rubber insulated harness clamps. The mounting plate includes the rectifier/voltage regulator, Facet 40104 fuel pump, 25v22000uf capiciter and sealed lead acid Duracell 12 volt battery. I think the total cost was around $130.00 including wiring and a master power switch. Total weight came out to 3.8 pounds. Here's a couple of pictures. Before and after installation. Thank you all your help. George H.Firestar, FS#10014GDHMesick, Michigangdhelton@gmail.comHave a great day! On May 28, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Richard Girard wrote: George, Congrats on the return to flight. Always good to hear that another Kolb is back in the air.I ran a Facet on my Mk III above the tanks, probably 20 inches of lift and never a problem. Just replumbed the fuel system on my HKS powered trike. A Facet in series with a Mikuni DF52. Flight tested it with a five minute climb at full power with the Facet off. The little HKS never missed a beat. Total lift for the Mikuni about 26 inches.Safe flying,Rick On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 8:56 PM, George Helton wrote: Thanks for asking the same question that I had about still using the pulse pump along with the facet electric pump. I like redundancy when it comes to aircraft fuel systems. And thanks all the good information that was generated. I ordered a new rectifier/ regulator, 24V 22000uf capacitor and a 40104 fuel pump last week and am waiting for everything to come. I'm going to run some lift tests before mounting the new pump simply because I would like to mount the facet pump above my fuel tank if it lifts sufficiently? Time will tell? Oh yeah guys I flew my restored Firestar (original) yesterday! It was its first flight in 28 years and it was sweet. George H. Firestar #FS100 Mesick, Michigan gdhelton@gmail.com Have a great day! > On May 27, 2017, at 3:19 PM, west1m wrote: > > > Does anyone pump in series (or through) their Mikuni fuel pump? > I ask as I had a wire break off my regulator and eventually lost all power to gauges, EIS and GPS before getting back to home field. It would have been a much shorter flight with only the Facet pump. > > -------- > West1m > Hastings, MN > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/ viewtopic.php?p=469643#469643 > > > > > > ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== > > > -- Blessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light. Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:15 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Pump I still have heat shrink the terminal connections on the battery wires. Thanks for the reply. George H. Have a great day! > On Jun 2, 2017, at 6:47 PM, Bill Berle wrote: > > > PLEASE be careful with having fuel lines and seals and connections just a few inches from a battery and electrical connections ! > > Bill Berle > www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft > www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities > > -------------------------------------------- > On Fri, 6/2/17, George Helton wrote: > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Pump > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, June 2, 2017, 3:22 PM > > This is > thanks to you Kolbers who contributed to my request for > information on the Facet fuel pump. I had to add an > electrical system to my 1986 Firestar as I'd never > really needed one before. I used pretty much all of your > input. Here's what I came up with and it seems to work > quite well. I fabricated a mount > plate that mounts to the aft cage section directly under the > engine mounts. It's mounted using 4 ea. Steel with > rubber insulated harness clamps. The mounting plate includes > the rectifier/voltage regulator, Facet 40104 fuel pump, > 25v22000uf capiciter and sealed lead acid Duracell 12 volt > battery. I think the total cost was around $130.00 including > wiring and a master power switch. Total weight came out to > 3.8 pounds. Here's a couple of pictures. Before and > after installation. Thank you all your help. > > > George H.Firestar, > FS#10014GDHMesick, > Michigan gdhelton@gmail.comHave a great > day! > On May 28, > 2017, at 8:36 PM, Richard Girard > wrote: > > George, Congrats on the > return to flight. Always good to hear that another Kolb is > back in the air.I ran a Facet on my Mk III above the > tanks, probably 20 inches of lift and never a problem. Just > replumbed the fuel system on my HKS powered trike. A Facet > in series with a Mikuni DF52. Flight tested it with a five > minute climb at full power with the Facet off. The little > HKS never missed a beat. Total lift for the Mikuni about 26 > inches.Safe > flying,Rick > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at > 8:56 PM, George Helton > wrote: > Thanks > for asking the same question that I had about still using > the pulse pump along with the facet electric pump. I like > redundancy when it comes to aircraft fuel systems. And > thanks all the good information that was generated. > > I ordered a new rectifier/ regulator, 24V 22000uf > capacitor and a 40104 fuel pump last week and am waiting for > everything to come. I'm going to run some lift tests > before mounting the new pump simply because I would like to > mount the facet pump above my fuel tank if it lifts > sufficiently? Time will tell? > > Oh yeah guys I flew my restored Firestar (original) > yesterday! It was its first flight in 28 years and it was > sweet. > > > > > George H. > > Firestar #FS100 > > Mesick, Michigan > > gdhelton@gmail.com > > > > Have a great day! > > > >> On May 27, 2017, at 3:19 PM, west1m > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Does anyone pump in series (or through) their Mikuni > fuel pump? > >> I ask as I had a wire break off my regulator and > eventually lost all power to gauges, EIS and GPS before > getting back to home field. It would have been a much > shorter flight with only the Facet pump. > >> > >> -------- > >> West1m > >> Hastings, MN > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/ > viewtopic.php?p=469643#469643 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ===== ===== > > ===== ===== > > ===== ===== > > ===== ===== > > ===== ===== > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > Blessed are > the cracked, for they shall let in the light. Groucho > Marx > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:07 PM PST US From: Jim Thomson Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Pump West1m I have flow my R582 powered Mk3 for four plus years operating in series with good result. Tank to filter to electric powered pump to vacuum pulse pump to filters to carbs. On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 4:06 PM, George Helton wrote: > > I still have heat shrink the terminal connections on the battery wires. > Thanks for the reply. George H. > > > Have a great day! > > > On Jun 2, 2017, at 6:47 PM, Bill Berle > wrote: > > > > > > PLEASE be careful with having fuel lines and seals and connections just > a few inches from a battery and electrical connections ! > > > > Bill Berle > > www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft > > www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and > for-profit entities > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Fri, 6/2/17, George Helton wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Pump > > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > Date: Friday, June 2, 2017, 3:22 PM > > > > This is > > thanks to you Kolbers who contributed to my request for > > information on the Facet fuel pump. I had to add an > > electrical system to my 1986 Firestar as I'd never > > really needed one before. I used pretty much all of your > > input. Here's what I came up with and it seems to work > > quite well. I fabricated a mount > > plate that mounts to the aft cage section directly under the > > engine mounts. It's mounted using 4 ea. Steel with > > rubber insulated harness clamps. The mounting plate includes > > the rectifier/voltage regulator, Facet 40104 fuel pump, > > 25v22000uf capiciter and sealed lead acid Duracell 12 volt > > battery. I think the total cost was around $130.00 including > > wiring and a master power switch. Total weight came out to > > 3.8 pounds. Here's a couple of pictures. Before and > > after installation. Thank you all your help. > > > > > > George H.Firestar, > > FS#10014GDHMesick, > > Michigan gdhelton@gmail.comHave a great > > day! > > On May 28, > > 2017, at 8:36 PM, Richard Girard > > wrote: > > > > George, Congrats on the > > return to flight. Always good to hear that another Kolb is > > back in the air.I ran a Facet on my Mk III above the > > tanks, probably 20 inches of lift and never a problem. Just > > replumbed the fuel system on my HKS powered trike. A Facet > > in series with a Mikuni DF52. Flight tested it with a five > > minute climb at full power with the Facet off. The little > > HKS never missed a beat. Total lift for the Mikuni about 26 > > inches.Safe > > flying,Rick > > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at > > 8:56 PM, George Helton > > wrote: > > Thanks > > for asking the same question that I had about still using > > the pulse pump along with the facet electric pump. I like > > redundancy when it comes to aircraft fuel systems. And > > thanks all the good information that was generated. > > > > I ordered a new rectifier/ regulator, 24V 22000uf > > capacitor and a 40104 fuel pump last week and am waiting for > > everything to come. I'm going to run some lift tests > > before mounting the new pump simply because I would like to > > mount the facet pump above my fuel tank if it lifts > > sufficiently? Time will tell? > > > > Oh yeah guys I flew my restored Firestar (original) > > yesterday! It was its first flight in 28 years and it was > > sweet. > > > > > > > > > > George H. > > > > Firestar #FS100 > > > > Mesick, Michigan > > > > gdhelton@gmail.com > > > > > > > > Have a great day! > > > > > > > >> On May 27, 2017, at 3:19 PM, west1m > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Does anyone pump in series (or through) their Mikuni > > fuel pump? > > > >> I ask as I had a wire break off my regulator and > > eventually lost all power to gauges, EIS and GPS before > > getting back to home field. It would have been a much > > shorter flight with only the Facet pump. > > > >> > > > >> -------- > > > >> West1m > > > >> Hastings, MN > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Read this topic online here: > > > >> > > > >> http://forums.matronics.com/ > > viewtopic.php?p=469643#469643 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ===== ===== > > > > ===== ===== > > > > ===== ===== > > > > ===== ===== > > > > ===== ===== > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > =9CBlessed are > > the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho > > Marx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.