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1. 05:43 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/05/17 (Bob Green)
2. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/05/17 (jpfitt)
3. 12:42 PM - Lord Mounts? (Richard Pike)
4. 12:50 PM - Re: Lord Mounts? (wakataka)
5. 02:12 PM - Tire Balance (Larry Cottrell)
6. 03:46 PM - Re: Lord Mounts? (B Young)
7. 04:36 PM - Test (John Hauck)
8. 04:57 PM - Re: Test (Russ Kinne)
9. 05:15 PM - Re: Test (John Hauck)
10. 05:43 PM - Re: Test (william sullivan)
11. 05:47 PM - Re: Test (william sullivan)
12. 05:52 PM - Re: Test (Brad Nation)
13. 06:23 PM - Re: Test (John Hauck)
14. 06:23 PM - Re: Test (John Hauck)
15. 09:21 PM - Re: Lord Mounts? (Charlie England)
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/05/17 |
Hello John.
Bob
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/05/17 |
Bob green, do I know you? I have been watching the kolb list for about 2 yea
rs but have not made any comments. I am actually just now completing a Fires
tar ll but I don't think I have ever made contact with anyone. My name is J
ohn Fitt, and live in Northern California, I don't mind if you contact me...
.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 5:42 AM, Bob Green <bgreen@bimi.org> wrote:
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>> Hello John.
> Bob
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Broke the 277 in today, very pleased! All the numbers were good, it makes good
power, now we need to order a prop for it. (We broke it in using a tractor prop
off a Fisher ultralight. Since it was a tractor prop it blew the cool air across
the engine instead of at the tail)
Question: we seem to be getting a lot of vibration into the airframe. We are still
using the original Lord mounts to mount the engine plate which were intended
to mount a 447.
Do Lord mounts get stiffer and harden with age? These are now 30 years old. They
look and feel OK, but... Would mounts designed for a 447 be unnecessarily hard
or stiff for a 277?
Called the factory but got no answer - guess Bryan is out playing with the new
green Firefly - he posted the pictures on FB yesterday.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469846#469846
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Subject: | Re: Lord Mounts? |
I don't think the mounts get stiff with age. The 277 is just a vibrating little
beast. You can use softer mounts but it will decrease your thrust measurably.
I tried three different grades of mount when I was setting up my 277. I don't
remember the numbers exactly, but I think it was on the order of 30 pounds static
thrust difference between the stiffest and softest mounts. I had been told
to expect a difference in thrust with different mounts but I was really surprised
at how big a difference it made. The vibration was still very noticeable
even with the soft mounts, so I ended up going with the middle grade.
I eventually replaced the 277 with a Kawasaki 440 using the same mounts and it
felt like turbine engine compared to that 277. But the 277 made almost as much
thrust as the Kawasaki and weighed considerably less. So like everything else
in aviation, it's a trade off.
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There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of
conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
Read this topic online here:
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I bought a pair of the Aero Classic tundra tires from Desser. One of
them required a lot of weight to balance. 14.8 ounces to be exact. I
called them and talked to one of their salesman. After a bit of
fumbling around they sent me another tire that arrived yesterday. I
put it on and balanced it out. This one only required 3.4 oz of weight
which is much more like it. As a matter of fact I believe that it is
the rim rather than the tire that caused me to have to add lead to get
it balanced. My other tire that seemed normal required 3.6 oz of
weight to balance.
The rims are the new Matco "spun rims". My reason for that statement
is that the tires have a red dot stamped on them to indicate the light
spot on the tire. I lined up the valve stem with that red dot on the
first two, and the light spot was always where the valve stem was
located. This time with the new tire, I put the red dot directly
across from the valve stem. The tire still rotated so that the valve
stem was straight up. I dismounted the tire from the rim and realigned
it to the valve stem and the red dot, ( as it should have been first)
and the light spot was still the valve stem. After balancing I needed
3.4 oz of weight to allow the tire to remain in neutral balance.
Here is a short video of the process. https://vimeo.com/220527865
It should not require a password. If it does use - owyheeflyer
Larry
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Subject: | Re: Lord Mounts? |
Three dollar question!!! Is the tractor prop balanced?
Boyd Young
On Jun 6, 2017 1:43 PM, "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net> wrote:
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> Broke the 277 in today, very pleased! All the numbers were good, it makes
> good power, now we need to order a prop for it. (We broke it in using a
> tractor prop off a Fisher ultralight. Since it was a tractor prop it blew
> the cool air across the engine instead of at the tail)
> Question: we seem to be getting a lot of vibration into the airframe. We
> are still using the original Lord mounts to mount the engine plate which
> were intended to mount a 447.
> Do Lord mounts get stiffer and harden with age? These are now 30 years
> old. They look and feel OK, but... Would mounts designed for a 447 be
> unnecessarily hard or stiff for a 277?
> Called the factory but got no answer - guess Bryan is out playing with the
> new green Firefly - he posted the pictures on FB yesterday.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469846#469846
>
>
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Test
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Test arrived in Maine OK
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:35 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> Test
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Test not arriving hauck's holler.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kinne
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test
Test arrived in Maine OK
On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:35 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Test
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Arrived in Ct. OK. I did not get the daily summary of the Kolb List or the
Rotax List for 6/5
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
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On Tue, 6/6/17, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:15 PM
Test
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And my message did come back to me through the List. John- Did you get this?
do not archive.
Bill Sullivan
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On Tue, 6/6/17, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:41 PM
sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
Arrived in Ct. OK.
I did not get the daily summary of the Kolb List or the
Rotax List for 6/5
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
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On Tue, 6/6/17, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:15 PM
Test
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Arrived in NM.
Do not archive.
Brad Nation
___________________________
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We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought
for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we
will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's
children what it was once like in the United States where men were
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> On Jun 6, 2017, at 17:35 , John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Test
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Finally, first msg from Kolb List since 24 May.
And I also have received a few more from the Kolb List.
I hope little problems like this don't bother you near as much as they do
me. ;-)
Now it's time to do an annual on Miss P'fer. Seems like I just did that.
Weather has not been aviation friendly in my neck of the woods.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 7:16 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test
Test not arriving hauck's holler.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kinne
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test
Test arrived in Maine OK
On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:35 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Test
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Got Bill Sullivan's msg.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of william sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test
--> <williamtsullivan@att.net>
And my message did come back to me through the List. John- Did you get this?
do not archive.
Bill Sullivan
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On Tue, 6/6/17, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:41 PM
Arrived in Ct. OK.
I did not get the daily summary of the Kolb List or the Rotax List for 6/5
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
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On Tue, 6/6/17, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:15 PM
Test
The Kolb-List Email Forum -
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- MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
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