Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/06/17


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:43 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/05/17 (Bob Green)
     2. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/05/17 (jpfitt)
     3. 12:42 PM - Lord Mounts? (Richard Pike)
     4. 12:50 PM - Re: Lord Mounts? (wakataka)
     5. 02:12 PM - Tire Balance (Larry Cottrell)
     6. 03:46 PM - Re: Lord Mounts? (B Young)
     7. 04:36 PM - Test (John Hauck)
     8. 04:57 PM - Re: Test (Russ Kinne)
     9. 05:15 PM - Re: Test (John Hauck)
    10. 05:43 PM - Re: Test (william sullivan)
    11. 05:47 PM - Re: Test (william sullivan)
    12. 05:52 PM - Re: Test (Brad Nation)
    13. 06:23 PM - Re: Test (John Hauck)
    14. 06:23 PM - Re: Test (John Hauck)
    15. 09:21 PM - Re: Lord Mounts? (Charlie England)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:43:13 AM PST US
    From: Bob Green <bgreen@bimi.org>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/05/17
    Hello John. Bob


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    Time: 06:49:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/05/17
    From: jpfitt <jpfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Bob green, do I know you? I have been watching the kolb list for about 2 yea rs but have not made any comments. I am actually just now completing a Fires tar ll but I don't think I have ever made contact with anyone. My name is J ohn Fitt, and live in Northern California, I don't mind if you contact me... . Sent from my iPad > On Jun 6, 2017, at 5:42 AM, Bob Green <bgreen@bimi.org> wrote: > >> Hello John. > Bob


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    Time: 12:42:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Lord Mounts?
    From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
    Broke the 277 in today, very pleased! All the numbers were good, it makes good power, now we need to order a prop for it. (We broke it in using a tractor prop off a Fisher ultralight. Since it was a tractor prop it blew the cool air across the engine instead of at the tail) Question: we seem to be getting a lot of vibration into the airframe. We are still using the original Lord mounts to mount the engine plate which were intended to mount a 447. Do Lord mounts get stiffer and harden with age? These are now 30 years old. They look and feel OK, but... Would mounts designed for a 447 be unnecessarily hard or stiff for a 277? Called the factory but got no answer - guess Bryan is out playing with the new green Firefly - he posted the pictures on FB yesterday. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469846#469846


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    Time: 12:50:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lord Mounts?
    From: "wakataka" <wakataka@charter.net>
    I don't think the mounts get stiff with age. The 277 is just a vibrating little beast. You can use softer mounts but it will decrease your thrust measurably. I tried three different grades of mount when I was setting up my 277. I don't remember the numbers exactly, but I think it was on the order of 30 pounds static thrust difference between the stiffest and softest mounts. I had been told to expect a difference in thrust with different mounts but I was really surprised at how big a difference it made. The vibration was still very noticeable even with the soft mounts, so I ended up going with the middle grade. I eventually replaced the 277 with a Kawasaki 440 using the same mounts and it felt like turbine engine compared to that 277. But the 277 made almost as much thrust as the Kawasaki and weighed considerably less. So like everything else in aviation, it's a trade off. -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469847#469847


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    Time: 02:12:42 PM PST US
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    Subject: Tire Balance
    I bought a pair of the Aero Classic tundra tires from Desser. One of them required a lot of weight to balance. 14.8 ounces to be exact. I called them and talked to one of their salesman. After a bit of fumbling around they sent me another tire that arrived yesterday. I put it on and balanced it out. This one only required 3.4 oz of weight which is much more like it. As a matter of fact I believe that it is the rim rather than the tire that caused me to have to add lead to get it balanced. My other tire that seemed normal required 3.6 oz of weight to balance. The rims are the new Matco "spun rims". My reason for that statement is that the tires have a red dot stamped on them to indicate the light spot on the tire. I lined up the valve stem with that red dot on the first two, and the light spot was always where the valve stem was located. This time with the new tire, I put the red dot directly across from the valve stem. The tire still rotated so that the valve stem was straight up. I dismounted the tire from the rim and realigned it to the valve stem and the red dot, ( as it should have been first) and the light spot was still the valve stem. After balancing I needed 3.4 oz of weight to allow the tire to remain in neutral balance. Here is a short video of the process. https://vimeo.com/220527865 It should not require a password. If it does use - owyheeflyer Larry -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.


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    Time: 03:46:44 PM PST US
    From: B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Lord Mounts?
    Three dollar question!!! Is the tractor prop balanced? Boyd Young On Jun 6, 2017 1:43 PM, "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net> wrote: > > Broke the 277 in today, very pleased! All the numbers were good, it makes > good power, now we need to order a prop for it. (We broke it in using a > tractor prop off a Fisher ultralight. Since it was a tractor prop it blew > the cool air across the engine instead of at the tail) > Question: we seem to be getting a lot of vibration into the airframe. We > are still using the original Lord mounts to mount the engine plate which > were intended to mount a 447. > Do Lord mounts get stiffer and harden with age? These are now 30 years > old. They look and feel OK, but... Would mounts designed for a 447 be > unnecessarily hard or stiff for a 277? > Called the factory but got no answer - guess Bryan is out playing with the > new green Firefly - he posted the pictures on FB yesterday. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > > Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469846#469846 > >


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    Time: 04:36:17 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Test
    Test


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    Time: 04:57:09 PM PST US
    From: Russ Kinne <russk50@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Test
    Test arrived in Maine OK > On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:35 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > Test


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    Time: 05:15:55 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Test
    Test not arriving hauck's holler. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kinne Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:56 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test Test arrived in Maine OK On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:35 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: Test


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    Time: 05:43:51 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Test
    Arrived in Ct. OK. I did not get the daily summary of the Kolb List or the Rotax List for 6/5 do not archive Bill Sullivan -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 6/6/17, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:15 PM Test


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    Time: 05:47:37 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Test
    And my message did come back to me through the List. John- Did you get this? do not archive. Bill Sullivan -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 6/6/17, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote: Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:41 PM sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> Arrived in Ct. OK. I did not get the daily summary of the Kolb List or the Rotax List for 6/5 do not archive Bill Sullivan -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 6/6/17, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:15 PM Test The Kolb-List Email Forum - Navigator to browse List Un/Subscription, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - via the Web Forums! - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - Email List Wiki! - List Contribution Web Site - support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin.


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    Time: 05:52:04 PM PST US
    From: Brad Nation <nationcap@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Test
    Arrived in NM. Do not archive. Brad Nation ___________________________ =9CFreedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.=9D -- President Ronald Reagan > On Jun 6, 2017, at 17:35 , John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > Test


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    Time: 06:23:04 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Test
    Finally, first msg from Kolb List since 24 May. And I also have received a few more from the Kolb List. I hope little problems like this don't bother you near as much as they do me. ;-) Now it's time to do an annual on Miss P'fer. Seems like I just did that. Weather has not been aviation friendly in my neck of the woods. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 7:16 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test Test not arriving hauck's holler. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kinne Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:56 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test Test arrived in Maine OK On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:35 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: Test


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    Time: 06:23:48 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Test
    Got Bill Sullivan's msg. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test --> <williamtsullivan@att.net> And my message did come back to me through the List. John- Did you get this? do not archive. Bill Sullivan -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 6/6/17, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote: Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:41 PM Arrived in Ct. OK. I did not get the daily summary of the Kolb List or the Rotax List for 6/5 do not archive Bill Sullivan -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 6/6/17, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 8:15 PM Test The Kolb-List Email Forum - Navigator to browse List Un/Subscription, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - via the Web Forums! - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - Email List Wiki! - List Contribution Web Site - support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin.


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    Time: 09:21:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lord Mounts?
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
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