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1. 05:38 AM - Re: Test (Denny Baber)
2. 07:40 AM - Re: Test (George Helton)
3. 11:43 AM - Re: Lord Mounts? (Richard Pike)
4. 01:09 PM - Re: New from Utah (Roy Spangler)
5. 01:28 PM - Re: Re: Lord Mounts? (George Helton)
6. 04:45 PM - Re: Lord Mounts? (japowell)
7. 07:47 PM - Re: Lord Mounts? (Richard Pike)
8. 07:54 PM - Re: Re: Lord Mounts? (william sullivan)
9. 07:59 PM - Re: Lord Mounts? (Richard Pike)
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Arrived at Fort Myers, Florida
Respectfully,
Dennis Baber
baberdk@gmail.com
Stay Curious
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Arrived Mesick, Michigan!
Have a great day!
> On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Denny Baber <baberdk@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Arrived at Fort Myers, Florida
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> Respectfully,
> Dennis Baber
> baberdk@gmail.com
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> Stay Curious
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| Subject: | Re: Lord Mounts? |
I don't think the props are the problem. We have two props, and we balanced both
of them before running the engine. We broke the engine in with the tractor,
it was a 60 x 28 Tennessee prop, then took it off and switched to a 60 x 30 Arrowprop
pusher, but it vibrated a lot worse and also over revved to 7,000. Go
figure. I guess one man's 28" pitch and another man's 30" pitch don't necessarily
have anything in common.
Anyway, we put it together today and measured for the gap seal and a few other
details, here are some pictures. Ordered a 20' endoscope that will fit the usb
port on the laptop, next week we inspect the inside of the wings and if all looks
good we repaint them. If it doesn't look good we recover them.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: New from Utah |
New Guy,
Is it a ground adjustable prop ?
Roy
spangler@kirtland.edu
On Thursday, June 1, 2017, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
> How is the flying coming,,,, did you change the gear box or prop?
>
> Boyd mkiii
> Brigham city Utah
>
> On Feb 6, 2017 8:39 AM, "Wayne Schneider" <jwaynes@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jwaynes@gmail.com');>> wrote:
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>> Hello fellow fliers,
>>
>> I've been lurking here for a few months and thought I should introduce
>> myself. Name is Wayne Schneider and I live in Utah where the air is thick
>> and cold, lol.
>> Last summer I purchased N359RT which is a modified Twinstar Mark II with
>> a Rotax 532. Yes, you read that correctly, it's the predecessor to the
>> 582. SIngle ignition but otherwise very much the same.
>>
>> Unfortunately, it has a WarpDrive propeller whose MMI is too much for the
>> A gearbox so I'll be swapping that out before summer. And, I need to do a
>> complete inspection. Does anybody need a slightly used 3 blade 68" prop?
>>
>> New guy,
>> Wayne
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>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Lord Mounts? |
Nice pictures. And I know this may sound like less then intelligent question but,
you said the props were both balanced so you might check the prop tracking
tip to tip and you might put a dial indicator on the actual gearbox hub and check
how much runout you have? Its just a suggestion of something that could be
checked. I doubt that it's the lord mounts unless they are in really bad shape.
Softer mounts would move around even more I would thing?
George H.
Firestar, #FS100
14GDH
Mesick, Michigan
Have a great day!
> On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:43 PM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net> wrote:
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> I don't think the props are the problem. We have two props, and we balanced both
of them before running the engine. We broke the engine in with the tractor,
it was a 60 x 28 Tennessee prop, then took it off and switched to a 60 x 30
Arrowprop pusher, but it vibrated a lot worse and also over revved to 7,000. Go
figure. I guess one man's 28" pitch and another man's 30" pitch don't necessarily
have anything in common.
> Anyway, we put it together today and measured for the gap seal and a few other
details, here are some pictures. Ordered a 20' endoscope that will fit the usb
port on the laptop, next week we inspect the inside of the wings and if all
looks good we repaint them. If it doesn't look good we recover them.
>
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> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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> Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
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| Subject: | Re: Lord Mounts? |
Looking good Richard. What was the final weight?
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Jim P
WAR EAGLE
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| Subject: | Re: Lord Mounts? |
japowell wrote:
> Looking good Richard. What was the final weight?
Today while we had it all together, since we had a friend's deer weighing scale,
we tried using that along with a chain hoist in my hangar to check the overall
weight. So we hung the airplane from the hoist and the scale - showed that
the airplane with a 277 was the same weight as it was with a 447.
[Shocked]
Really? But - the 277 is 20 pounds lighter! (Give the man back his scale)
Will try some more upscale technology tomorrow (electronic scale in the garage,
one wheel at a time) and hope for more accurate results.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Lord Mounts? |
Uh... I don't suppose that friend of yours always gets the heaviest buck in
the area?
do not archive.
Bill Sullivan
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On Wed, 6/7/17, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net> wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lord Mounts?
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2017, 10:47 PM
Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
japowell wrote:
> Looking good Richard. What
was the final weight?
Today while we had it all together,
since we had a friend's deer weighing scale, we tried using
that along with a chain hoist in my hangar to check the
overall weight. So we hung the airplane from the hoist and
the scale - showed that the airplane with a 277 was
the same weight as it was with a 447.
[Shocked]
Really? But - the 277 is 20
pounds lighter! (Give the man back his scale)
Will try some more upscale technology
tomorrow (electronic scale in the garage, one wheel at a
time) and hope for more accurate results.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Lord Mounts? |
[quote] ="gdhelton(at)gmail.com" Nice pictures. And I know this may sound like
less then intelligent question but, you said the props were both balanced so you
might check the prop tracking tip to tip and you might put a dial indicator
on the actual gearbox hub and check how much runout you have?
George H.
Firestar, #FS100
14GDH
Mesick, Michigan
Have a great day! [quote]
Very true. And the Arrowprop did have too much runout, it would have needed to
be shimmed. So yes, very much a factor in the vibration. But it has become a moot
point; The Arrowprop revved to 7,000 (And it was sold with a 503 as part of
a 2 seat Drifter kit ?!?!?) so we couldn't use it anyway. I ordered a new two
blade 62" Ivoprop this afternoon. They said it will show up in 5 weeks, which
gives us time to do a meticulous job of inspecting inside the wings and repainting
them, and for me to spend some time riding the back roads on my NX 250.
(Best ride I've ever had, and I've had quite a few)
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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