---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/07/17: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:12 AM - Re: Pictures (Lanny Lambdin) 2. 04:45 AM - Re: I Love all the Videos (Tony &Heather Oldman) 3. 06:37 AM - Re: Pictures (John Hauck) 4. 07:10 AM - Re: I Love all the Videos (KelleyT) 5. 01:05 PM - fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? (Charlie England) 6. 01:47 PM - Re: Kolb flyers/owners map (wakataka) 7. 02:03 PM - Re: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? (wakataka) 8. 02:04 PM - Re: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? (wakataka) 9. 02:06 PM - Re: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? (John Hauck) 10. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map (Bill Berle) 11. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map (Larry Cottrell) 12. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map (John Hauck) 13. 03:34 PM - Re: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? (George Helton) 14. 03:40 PM - Re: Re: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? (Charlie England) 15. 04:00 PM - Re: Kolb flyers/owners map (Richard Pike) 16. 06:58 PM - Re: Kolb flyers/owners map (3benny3) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pictures From: Lanny Lambdin Greetings, All, My name is Lanny, and I have been on this list for a few months now, learnin g more about the Kolb airplanes. I presently fly a Challenger II CWS I built, and a single place Loehle Sport Parasol. I built the two place Challenger mostly s o my wife and I could enjoy flying together, but she is so uncomfortable in the b ack seat (And I don't have any experience flying from the back), so I started looking at Kolb Mark threes. We plan to attend Sun N Fun next April so we can try on the Ko lb, get a demo ride perhaps and make a decision about selling the Challenger and get ting a Kolb. That being said, I have enjoyed the pics and videos, Larry's especially, as I am in the mountains of Virginia, and that terrain out West is so different. I enjoy c reating videos from my flight footage, especially when the flight is with a friend a nd particularly a grandchild! Below is a link to one of my YouTube videos in w hich my grandson, Chase, who was 8 at the time, got his first flight in Miss Suns hine my Challenger. If you are interested, I have a number of videos posted on m y YouTube site, just search on YouTube for Miss Sunshine, or PaPaLan publicati ons to find more. Hope you enjoy, Safe flights all, Lanny. https://youtu.be/yDByWwjpZM0 Sent from my iPad > On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:53 AM, John Hauck wrote: > > I agree with Wayne S. Putting video together is a lot work and time. Tim e Larry C could be doing chores and honey do's. ;-) > > I enjoy them because that part of the world is completely opposite of my l ittle piece of dirt. I like the West so much I have been going there every y ear since 2003, sometimes twice a year. I missed the Kolb Unplanned/Unorgan ized Flyin Monument Valley, UT, in 2010, but made it to the Rock House 3 mon ths after I had a nasty accident on my mountain bike. I still like my home b ase at hauck's holler, Alabama, but thoroughly enjoy exploring the West. No t the populated areas, but the remote back country. > > Still tossing around what to do this year for the Rock House Kolb Flyin. Fly or pull the 5th wheel??? Want to do both, but the timing just ain't rig ht. > > I drug Miss P'fer, my 1992 Kolb MKIII, out of the hanger a couple days ago . First time in 3 months. She was nice and clean the first of April, with b rand new John Gilpin STOL Speed Vortex Generators installed. She flew great despite the load of barn dust, bug and bird crap. I got an hour flight tim e. Shot a bunch of landings at my short strip and at the longer grass strip at Wetumpka Airport, 08A, 11.2 miles away. I enjoy flying with the VGs, af ter all these years. They make an old rusty pilot look halfway decent on hi s landings despite my efforts to screw them up. I need to fly more to get b ack in the groove and really learn about the STOL Speed VGs. > > Keep the photos and vids coming Larry C. I enjoy them. They bring back m emories of the last 12 years me and my buddies have been flying in your neck of the woods. After flying out of Gantt International Airport for the last 33 years, looking at the top of pine trees and flat ground gets boring. No t at the Rock House though. There's always somewhere to go to see something new and exciting. The big plus is getting together with old Kolb friends t hat met because of Homer Kolb's little airplanes. Had it not been for Homer , I would have missed out on a big part of the long, exciting life I have en joyed since retiring in 1980, and my good friends from all over the world. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Schneider > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 7:51 AM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Pictures > > I find the video inspiring. Today, I was thinking how much work that must be to put together. It is appreciated. > > From: Larry Cottrell > Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 9:33 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Pictures > > Thanks to all who commented about the pictures. Its rather amusing that I g ot more comments concerning the pictures than I ever get for all the work in producing a video. ? If you guy's would prefer pictures, they are a lot les s work, =F0=9F=98=8A > Larry > > -- > The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of oth ers. > > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addre ss before sending. > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:15 AM PST US From: Tony &Heather Oldman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: I Love all the Videos Please keep the vidios coming. They offer a rare insite into the places you fly as well as your entertaining naratives . In my part of the world,, we do not have so much of the open spaces you have. Tony South Island New Zealand > On 07 July 2017 at 03:10 Larry Cottrell wrote: > > Obviously I enjoy making the videos, It allows me to enjoy them again as well as makes it easier when telling someone about some part of this co untry. There is no doubt that I am blessed with a great area to fly, and ha ving a Kolb just makes it all that much better. It gives me great pleasure to share my good fortune with all of you. > > As for having to "walk back", I will take High Desert over muskeg any day. > > Larry > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Nick Cassara wrote: > mailto:nickc@mtaonline.net > Larry, I enjoy everything you postvideo or stills. I like to superimpose myself in the cockpit in the videos, and enjoy the flight. The still pictu res give the eye a chance to tease apart the country and how hostel it is .would not want to have to walk back to the homestead through most of those places! Keep them coming! Nick Cassara Palmer, Alaska 607AK ..90% done. -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga tor?Kolb-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of othe rs. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addres s before sending. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:51 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Pictures Lanny L/Kolbers: Might be a good idea to check with the Kolb Aircraft Co before going to Sun and Fun to get a ride in a Kolb MKIII. Give Bryan Melborn a call to insure they will have a MKIII at Lakeland. Not far from Virginia to London, KY. Might be a good idea to visit the Kolb Factory sooner. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lanny Lambdin Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pictures Greetings, All, My name is Lanny, and I have been on this list for a few months now, learning more about the Kolb airplanes. I presently fly a Challenger II CWS I built, and a single place Loehle Sport Parasol. I built the two place Challenger mostly so my wife and I could enjoy flying together, but she is so uncomfortable in the back seat (And I don't have any experience flying from the back), so I started looking at Kolb Mark threes. We plan to attend Sun N Fun next April so we can try on the Kolb, get a demo ride perhaps and make a decision about selling the Challenger and getting a Kolb. That being said, I have enjoyed the pics and videos, Larry's especially, as I am in the mountains of Virginia, and that terrain out West is so different. I enjoy creating videos from my flight footage, especially when the flight is with a friend and particularly a grandchild! Below is a link to one of my YouTube videos in which my grandson, Chase, who was 8 at the time, got his first flight in Miss Sunshine my Challenger. If you are interested, I have a number of videos posted on my YouTube site, just search on YouTube for Miss Sunshine, or PaPaLan publications to find more. Hope you enjoy, Safe flights all, Lanny. https://youtu.be/yDByWwjpZM0 Sent from my iPad On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:53 AM, John Hauck wrote: I agree with Wayne S. Putting video together is a lot work and time. Time Larry C could be doing chores and honey do's. ;-) I enjoy them because that part of the world is completely opposite of my little piece of dirt. I like the West so much I have been going there every year since 2003, sometimes twice a year. I missed the Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flyin Monument Valley, UT, in 2010, but made it to the Rock House 3 months after I had a nasty accident on my mountain bike. I still like my home base at hauck's holler, Alabama, but thoroughly enjoy exploring the West. Not the populated areas, but the remote back country. Still tossing around what to do this year for the Rock House Kolb Flyin. Fly or pull the 5th wheel??? Want to do both, but the timing just ain't right. I drug Miss P'fer, my 1992 Kolb MKIII, out of the hanger a couple days ago. First time in 3 months. She was nice and clean the first of April, with brand new John Gilpin STOL Speed Vortex Generators installed. She flew great despite the load of barn dust, bug and bird crap. I got an hour flight time. Shot a bunch of landings at my short strip and at the longer grass strip at Wetumpka Airport, 08A, 11.2 miles away. I enjoy flying with the VGs, after all these years. They make an old rusty pilot look halfway decent on his landings despite my efforts to screw them up. I need to fly more to get back in the groove and really learn about the STOL Speed VGs. Keep the photos and vids coming Larry C. I enjoy them. They bring back memories of the last 12 years me and my buddies have been flying in your neck of the woods. After flying out of Gantt International Airport for the last 33 years, looking at the top of pine trees and flat ground gets boring. Not at the Rock House though. There's always somewhere to go to see something new and exciting. The big plus is getting together with old Kolb friends that met because of Homer Kolb's little airplanes. Had it not been for Homer, I would have missed out on a big part of the long, exciting life I have enjoyed since retiring in 1980, and my good friends from all over the world. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Schneider Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 7:51 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Pictures I find the video inspiring. Today, I was thinking how much work that must be to put together. It is appreciated. From: Larry Cottrell Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 9:33 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Pictures Thanks to all who commented about the pictures. Its rather amusing that I got more comments concerning the pictures than I ever get for all the work in producing a video. ? If you guy's would prefer pictures, they are a lot less work, =F0=9F=98=8A Larry -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:35 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: I Love all the Videos From: "KelleyT" Larry, You are blessed to live in beautiful country. I always check to see if you have posted any new pictures or videos and I really like the way you present them. Thank you very much for all of your efforts. I grew up in a high desert, desolate area and now live in the big city with a million other idiots. I hope to pick up a Kolb and trailer that I can transport back to where I grew up and spend time there seeing all of the beauty before it is too late for me. Again, thanks for the wonderful videos and pictures. TK Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470758#470758 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:33 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Kolb-List: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? Anyone have an idea on the brown goo in this long-unused Twinstar tank? It's about the color and consistency of old-school Permatex gasket sealant, and just about as sticky. A bit of E-free mogas is marinating it now, and it seems to be softening. Old 2stroke oil? Actual mogas residue? Also, need some perspective on a pull start Rotax 503, for someone who's prior 2stroke experience is Lawn Boy & weed eaters. Am I just so over the hill that I can't pull it through more than one compression stroke? With plugs out, it seems to spin ok, but it certainly doesn't free-wheel. It has the gearbox mounted, but no prop. Thanks, Charlie ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:33 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map From: "wakataka" I put a pin on this map yesterday in Corning California and it's disappeared today. Anybody know what's causing that? Is it possible for anyone who logs in to just delete pins off the map? -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470765#470765 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? From: "wakataka" That junk looks a lot like what you might see in the bottom of a float bowl that's been sitting for a few years. I'd toss that tank and get a new one. Just as old gas turns to varnish, old plastic gets brittle and even though you might be able to clean that tank out, it's likely a lot more prone to cracking than a fuel tank should be. You can definitely get workout with pull start 503, and with no prop mounted there's less 'flywheel' effect so each compression stroke is more noticeable on the pull rope, but it should still be possible to spin the engine through several compression strokes with a good strong pull. Do you have the right amount of rope on the pulley? Are you able to pull it straight out of starter or do you have to pull it at an angle so the rope rubs on the ferrule? If the rope is rubbing on the ferrule it can bind and make it a lot harder to pull. -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470767#470767 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:30 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? From: "wakataka" That junk looks a lot like what you might see in the bottom of a float bowl that's been sitting for a few years. I'd toss that tank and get a new one. Just as old gas turns to varnish, old plastic gets brittle and even though you might be able to clean that tank out, it's likely a lot more prone to cracking than a fuel tank should be. You can definitely get workout with pull start 503, and with no prop mounted there's less 'flywheel' effect so each compression stroke is more noticeable on the pull rope, but it should still be possible to spin the engine through several compression strokes with a good strong pull. Do you have the right amount of rope on the pulley? Are you able to pull it straight out of starter or do you have to pull it at an angle so the rope rubs on the ferrule? If the rope is rubbing on the ferrule it can bind and make it a lot harder to pull. -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470768#470768 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:13 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? Put a prop on it. The small flywheel doesn't have enough inertia to overcome the compression. The nasty stuff in the tank is old gas and oil. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 3:05 PM Subject: Kolb-List: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? Anyone have an idea on the brown goo in this long-unused Twinstar tank? It's about the color and consistency of old-school Permatex gasket sealant, and just about as sticky. A bit of E-free mogas is marinating it now, and it seems to be softening. Old 2stroke oil? Actual mogas residue? Also, need some perspective on a pull start Rotax 503, for someone who's prior 2stroke experience is Lawn Boy & weed eaters. Am I just so over the hill that I can't pull it through more than one compression stroke? With plugs out, it seems to spin ok, but it certainly doesn't free-wheel. It has the gearbox mounted, but no prop. Thanks, Charlie ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:32:12 PM PST US From: Bill Berle Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map Well, there was no visible way for me to put a pin in this map. Whoever designed this mapping system is missing a chromosome for common sense. The only thing that looked like a lollipop did not open up anything that said "put a pin on the map", so I am stumped. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7/7/17, wakataka wrote: Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, July 7, 2017, 1:47 PM "wakataka" I put a pin on this map yesterday in Corning California and it's disappeared today. Anybody know what's causing that? Is it possible for anyone who logs in to just delete pins off the map? -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470765#470765 The Kolb-List Email Forum - Navigator to browse List Un/Subscription, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - via the Web Forums! - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - Email List Wiki! - List Contribution Web Site - support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:41:32 PM PST US From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map Maybe it looks like a balloon??? Perhaps I was hungry at the time. :-/ Its just to the left of the hand. Larry On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Bill Berle wrote: > > Well, there was no visible way for me to put a pin in this map. Whoever > designed this mapping system is missing a chromosome for common sense. > > The only thing that looked like a lollipop did not open up anything that > said "put a pin on the map", so I am stumped. > > Bill Berle > www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft > www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and > for-profit entities > > -------------------------------------------- > On Fri, 7/7/17, wakataka wrote: > > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, July 7, 2017, 1:47 PM > > "wakataka" > > I put a pin on this map yesterday in > Corning California and it's disappeared today. Anybody know > what's causing that? Is it possible for anyone who logs in > to just delete pins off the map? > > -------- > There is something fascinating about > science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out > of such a trifling investment of fact. > > Mark Twain > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470765#470765 > > > The Kolb-List Email Forum - > Navigator to browse > List Un/Subscription, > 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > via the Web Forums! > - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > Email List Wiki! > - List Contribution Web Site - > support! > > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:22 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map All I get is a blank page. Do I have to join something, or what to get this thing to open? john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 4:39 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map Maybe it looks like a balloon??? Perhaps I was hungry at the time. :-/ Its just to the left of the hand. Larry On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Bill Berle wrote: Well, there was no visible way for me to put a pin in this map. Whoever designed this mapping system is missing a chromosome for common sense. The only thing that looked like a lollipop did not open up anything that said "put a pin on the map", so I am stumped. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7/7/17, wakataka wrote: Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, July 7, 2017, 1:47 PM "wakataka" I put a pin on this map yesterday in Corning California and it's disappeared today. Anybody know what's causing that? Is it possible for anyone who logs in to just delete pins off the map? -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470765#470765 The Kolb-List Email Forum - Navigator to browse List Un/Subscription, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - via the Web Forums! - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - Email List Wiki! - List Contribution Web Site - support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:46 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? You sure got good info. from that post. Throw the tank away. It not worth tr ying to save it. That's a nasty looking tank. I had a 503 on my Twinstar MKII. They're a bear to pull start. I personally u sed to prop start mine. Full choke, throttle at idle. Make sure both wheels are chocked. Let me stress that' " throttle idle". I still prefer to prop s tart my little 377. Just my thing. If it's been awhile since it was last run adjust idle screw out until the carb slide is completely seated at the butt on then lift the slide up by the throttle cable. Adjust the idle screw in tw o complete turns. You might check the plunger seat on the choke. They tend t o deteriorate if they sit to o many years closed. I speak from past experien ce. Have a great day! > On Jul 7, 2017, at 5:06 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > Put a prop on it. The small flywheel doesn't have enough inertia to overc ome the compression. > > The nasty stuff in the tank is old gas and oil. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 3:05 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? > > Anyone have an idea on the brown goo in this long-unused Twinstar tank? It 's about the color and consistency of old-school Permatex gasket sealant, an d just about as sticky. A bit of E-free mogas is marinating it now, and it s eems to be softening. > > Old 2stroke oil? Actual mogas residue? > > Also, need some perspective on a pull start Rotax 503, for someone who's p rior 2stroke experience is Lawn Boy & weed eaters. Am I just so over the hil l that I can't pull it through more than one compression stroke? With plugs o ut, it seems to spin ok, but it certainly doesn't free-wheel. It has the gea rbox mounted, but no prop. > > Thanks, > > Charlie ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:54 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: fuel tank residue ID? Pull-start wimp? On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 4:03 PM, wakataka wrote: > > That junk looks a lot like what you might see in the bottom of a float > bowl that's been sitting for a few years. I'd toss that tank and get a new > one. Just as old gas turns to varnish, old plastic gets brittle and even > though you might be able to clean that tank out, it's likely a lot more > prone to cracking than a fuel tank should be. > > You can definitely get workout with pull start 503, and with no prop > mounted there's less 'flywheel' effect so each compression stroke is more > noticeable on the pull rope, but it should still be possible to spin the > engine through several compression strokes with a good strong pull. Do you > have the right amount of rope on the pulley? Are you able to pull it > straight out of starter or do you have to pull it at an angle so the rope > rubs on the ferrule? If the rope is rubbing on the ferrule it can bind and > make it a lot harder to pull. > > -------- > There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale > returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. > > Mark Twain > > Thank you to John and wakataka. Never thought about the prop as flywheel, when it's on the other end of a reduction drive. I'll get 'er on. The rope goes down & slightly aft to a flex-mounted pulley mounted on the a/c frame, then horizontal through the 'eye' that's welded to the forward frame member, above the pilot's head. There seems to be plenty of rope in the recoil mechanism; I can pull slowly & get 7 or 8 compression strokes before the rope handle is out in front of the rudder pedals. Obviously no way to pull that far in a single pull; just shows there's plenty of rope. Anyone know if the starter/ring gear from a Ski-Doo/Moto-Ski, etc will fit the a/c version of a 503? There are a couple on ebay now at a bit less than oxy-sucking prices. Charlie I'll definitely check the tank for cracking tendencies. It's been sitting for years, but has been inside. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:00:23 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map From: "Richard Pike" Once I logged in to Google, then it made sense. If you don't have a Google account, then I guess you are out of luck. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470778#470778 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:52 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flyers/owners map From: "3benny3" I have a google account so can't really tell what you see if you don't. But once you click link you should see a google satellite view map with locations tagged and a list there of on the left. *To add a location; use the search bar at the top to find your location or general area; then click on the upside down tear drop that is under the search bar, your pointer should turn to a cross when over the map now; click the location you wish to mark; a box should pop up to which you can add your info and picture if you want. In order to allow any one to "edit" the map (add locations/info) I have to leave it open for anyone with the link to view and edit the map. Therefore anyone can add, edit, and delete markers... If a blank marker has been made with no info in the box I usually delete them to keep things neat and clean as sometimes folks make lots of meaningless markers while trying to figure things out. -------- 912ul King Kolbra ;fun plane O300 Cessna 172B ;travel plane Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470782#470782 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.