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1. 05:58 AM - Re: Re: Balancing Tundra tires... (David Kulp)
2. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: Balancing Tundra tires... (B Young)
3. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: Balancing Tundra tires... (Larry Cottrell)
4. 07:18 AM - Re: Re: Balancing Tundra tires... (David Kulp)
5. 08:10 AM - Sorry about the duplicate messages (Nick Cassara)
6. 08:14 AM - Sorry about the duplicate messages (Nick Cassara)
7. 08:15 AM - Re: Sorry about the duplicate messages (Larry Cottrell)
8. 08:20 AM - Re: Sorry about the duplicate messages (william sullivan)
9. 08:24 AM - Sorry about the duplicate messages (Nick Cassara)
10. 08:43 AM - Sorry about the duplicate messages (Nick Cassara)
11. 09:22 AM - Sorry about the duplicate messages (Nick Cassara)
12. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: Balancing Tundra tires... (Stuart Harner)
13. 10:26 AM - Sorry about the duplicate messages (Nick Cassara)
14. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: Balancing Tundra tires... (Larry Cottrell)
15. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: Balancing Tundra tires... (John Hauck)
16. 11:31 AM - Sorry about the duplicate messages (Nick Cassara)
17. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: Balancing Tundra tires... (David Kulp)
18. 12:35 PM - Sorry about the duplicate messages (Nick Cassara)
19. 08:53 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Tundra tires... (Stuart Harner)
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
Nick, I've been using balancing beads in my cycle tires for years. Same
idea, balancing at outer circumference, but there's no user adjustment. As
soon as the wheel spins the beads position themselves to balance the wheel
perfectly. Got 15K miles on the last front tire on my BMW K1600GTL. Coming
on 30K now with some tread remaining.
I've never had a problem but I do remind the techy to be careful not to
splash tire lube inside. I buy "large" quantities online and weigh out 2
oz. on a postal scale each time.
FWIW.
Dave Kulp
no Kolb except by blood
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On July 31, 2017 9:31:12 PM Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Hello Kolbers,
>>
>> A few weeks back I finished a project, with Larry and Boyds help, and I
>> promised to share it with the List.
>> So here goes.
>>
>> I had never thought of balancing the tires on my plane, and if I had not
>> bought the Desser 8.50 x 6 inch tires, I am not sure it would matter.
>> As you probably remember Larry posted another example of his homestead
>> creativity, where he melted down what looked like about a 1/2 pound of .357
>> lead wad cutter, poured them into appropriately sized molds to balance each
>> wheel, then when they cooled he hot glued these custom weights to his rims
>> and balanced his tundra tires.
>>
>> Larry and Boyd said the better way to balance a tire is out at the tread"
>> rather than at the center, and encouraged me to try it. I discovered that
>> the front bias ply tires of tractor trailer rigs are in fact balanced using
>> leaded patch stuck on the inside of the tire.
>> These leaded patches are of a scale way beyond what I needed. I found
>> however that regular radial truck tire patches were heavy enough.
>>
>> I balanced my tires by spinning them on a dowel to find the light spots. By
>> taping 1/4 oz, lead car tire weights, to the outside of my Tundra tires
>> tread I determined that it only required 1 3/4 oz of lead to balance my
>> first tire, verses 5 oz taped on the rim. The other tire required 6 oz on
>> the rim and 2 oz on the tread.
>>
>> I then mounted radial tire patches to the appropriate locations on the
>> inside of the tires to balance the tires. The first tire was balanced with
>> one patch glued to the inside of the tire. The second tire required two
>> patches trimmed down and mated together to form one slightly elongated
>> patch. Ideally the patches would be mounted to the tubes, but I did not
>> think I was a good enough Tire technician to pull that off. Putting the
>> tubes in and out of the tires was the hardest part of the whole project for
>> me, and I felt it unlikely that I would get the patches in the correct
>> position on the tubes.
>>
>> Time will tell how this approach works out.
>>
>> For what it is worth,
>>
>> Nick Cassara
>> Palmer, Alaska
>>
>> Kolb Kolbra Prototype about 90% done
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
David and Kolb enthusiast
>From my research,,, and I did suggest to Larry that he try them....
The tire beads do work,,, but they don't start until you reach around 30
mph. From the time I go from 30 to when my wheels are off the ground is
of a short enough duration,, that I no longer think the beads have a
chance to position themselves.... This was noted by another mkiii
driver.
Dyna beads list aircraft, generically, on their web sight,, but do not
have a page showing how many beads to use... Too many sizes and weights.
When I sent an email on their contact page they were good to reply, when
supplied with wheel weights and dimensions, they made suggestions of how
many beads to use. I currently have a set on my desk, but I am now to
gun-shy to try.
Boyd Young
On Aug 1, 2017 7:01 AM, "David Kulp" <undoctor@rcn.com> wrote:
>
> Nick, I've been using balancing beads in my cycle tires for years. Same
> idea, balancing at outer circumference, but there's no user adjustment.
As
> soon as the wheel spins the beads position themselves to balance the whee
l
> perfectly. Got 15K miles on the last front tire on my BMW K1600GTL. Comin
g
> on 30K now with some tread remaining.
>
> I've never had a problem but I do remind the techy to be careful not to
> splash tire lube inside. I buy "large" quantities online and weigh out 2
> oz. on a postal scale each time.
>
> FWIW.
> Dave Kulp
>
> no Kolb except by blood=F0=9F=98'
>
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>
>
> On July 31, 2017 9:31:12 PM Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello Kolbers,
>>>
>>> A few weeks back I finished a project, with Larry and Boyd=99s he
lp, and I
>>> promised to share it with the =9CList=9D.
>>> So here goes.
>>>
>>> I had never thought of balancing the tires on my plane, and if I had no
t
>>> bought the Desser 8.50 x 6 inch tires, I am not sure it would matter.
>>> As you probably remember Larry posted another example of his homestead
>>> creativity, where he melted down what looked like about a 1/2 pound of
.357
>>> lead wad cutter, poured them into appropriately sized molds to balance
each
>>> wheel, then when they cooled he hot glued these custom weights to his r
ims
>>> and balanced his tundra tires.
>>>
>>> Larry and Boyd said the better way to balance a tire =9Cis out at
the
>>> tread" rather than at the center, and encouraged me to try it. I discov
ered
>>> that the front bias ply tires of tractor trailer rigs are in fact balan
ced
>>> using =9Cleaded patch=9D stuck on the inside of the tire.
>>> These leaded patches are of a scale way beyond what I needed. I found
>>> however that regular radial truck tire patches were heavy enough.
>>>
>>> I balanced my tires by spinning them on a dowel to find the light spots
.
>>> By taping 1/4 oz, lead car tire weights, to the outside of my Tundra ti
res
>>> =9Ctread=9D I determined that it only required 1 3/4 oz of
lead to balance my
>>> first tire, verses 5 oz taped on the rim. The other tire required 6 oz
on
>>> the rim and 2 oz on the tread.
>>>
>>> I then mounted radial tire patches to the appropriate locations on the
>>> inside of the tires to balance the tires. The first tire was balanced w
ith
>>> one patch glued to the inside of the tire. The second tire required two
>>> patches trimmed down and mated together to form one slightly elongated
>>> patch. Ideally the patches would be mounted to the tubes, but I did not
>>> think I was a good enough Tire technician to pull that off. Putting the
>>> tubes in and out of the tires was the hardest part of the whole project
for
>>> me, and I felt it unlikely that I would get the patches in the correct
>>> position on the tubes.
>>>
>>> Time will tell how this approach works out.
>>>
>>> For what it is worth,
>>>
>>> Nick Cassara
>>> Palmer, Alaska
>>>
>>> Kolb Kolbra Prototype about 90% done
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
Nick, I've been using balancing beads in my cycle tires for years. Same
idea, balancing at outer circumference, but there's no user adjustment. As
soon as the wheel spins the beads position themselves to balance the wheel
perfectly. Got 15K miles on the last front tire on my BMW K1600GTL. Coming
on 30K now with some tread remaining.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The first thing I tried was balancing beads. I ordered some from O'Reilly's
but could never get any of them in the tube. The tubes for these Tundra
tires has an opening so small I could never get anything in them. I tried
every method on You tube, and as far as I know never got a single bead in
the tube. That's when I gave up and made my own weights.
The beads were very small, but not small enough to get them aywhere but the
floor.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
Hey Boyd,
Thanks for the input. I have never been able to tell at what speed they
balance, I think because as soon as the wheel begins to show a need for
balance the beads position themselves to eliminate the need. I believe
30K miles on just two front tires supports my trust in them. I personally
wouldn't hesitate to use them in an airplane if I had one.
Dave
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On August 1, 2017 9:29:47 AM B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
> David and Kolb enthusiast
>
>>From my research,,, and I did suggest to Larry that he try them....
> The tire beads do work,,, but they don't start until you reach around 30
> mph. From the time I go from 30 to when my wheels are off the ground is
> of a short enough duration,, that I no longer think the beads have a
> chance to position themselves.... This was noted by another mkiii
> driver.
> Dyna beads list aircraft, generically, on their web sight,, but do not
> have a page showing how many beads to use... Too many sizes and weights.
> When I sent an email on their contact page they were good to reply, when
> supplied with wheel weights and dimensions, they made suggestions of how
> many beads to use. I currently have a set on my desk, but I am now to
> gun-shy to try.
>
> Boyd Young
>
> On Aug 1, 2017 7:01 AM, "David Kulp" <undoctor@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Nick, I've been using balancing beads in my cycle tires for years. Same
>> idea, balancing at outer circumference, but there's no user adjustment. As
>> soon as the wheel spins the beads position themselves to balance the wheel
>> perfectly. Got 15K miles on the last front tire on my BMW K1600GTL. Coming
>> on 30K now with some tread remaining.
>>
>> I've never had a problem but I do remind the techy to be careful not to
>> splash tire lube inside. I buy "large" quantities online and weigh out 2
>> oz. on a postal scale each time.
>>
>> FWIW.
>> Dave Kulp
>>
>> no Kolb except by blood
>>
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> On July 31, 2017 9:31:12 PM Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Kolbers,
>>>>
>>>> A few weeks back I finished a project, with Larry and Boyds help, and I
>>>> promised to share it with the List.
>>>> So here goes.
>>>>
>>>> I had never thought of balancing the tires on my plane, and if I had not
>>>> bought the Desser 8.50 x 6 inch tires, I am not sure it would matter.
>>>> As you probably remember Larry posted another example of his homestead
>>>> creativity, where he melted down what looked like about a 1/2 pound of .357
>>>> lead wad cutter, poured them into appropriately sized molds to balance each
>>>> wheel, then when they cooled he hot glued these custom weights to his rims
>>>> and balanced his tundra tires.
>>>>
>>>> Larry and Boyd said the better way to balance a tire is out at the
>>>> tread" rather than at the center, and encouraged me to try it. I discovered
>>>> that the front bias ply tires of tractor trailer rigs are in fact balanced
>>>> using leaded patch stuck on the inside of the tire.
>>>> These leaded patches are of a scale way beyond what I needed. I found
>>>> however that regular radial truck tire patches were heavy enough.
>>>>
>>>> I balanced my tires by spinning them on a dowel to find the light spots.
>>>> By taping 1/4 oz, lead car tire weights, to the outside of my Tundra tires
>>>> tread I determined that it only required 1 3/4 oz of lead to balance my
>>>> first tire, verses 5 oz taped on the rim. The other tire required 6 oz on
>>>> the rim and 2 oz on the tread.
>>>>
>>>> I then mounted radial tire patches to the appropriate locations on the
>>>> inside of the tires to balance the tires. The first tire was balanced with
>>>> one patch glued to the inside of the tire. The second tire required two
>>>> patches trimmed down and mated together to form one slightly elongated
>>>> patch. Ideally the patches would be mounted to the tubes, but I did not
>>>> think I was a good enough Tire technician to pull that off. Putting the
>>>> tubes in and out of the tires was the hardest part of the whole project for
>>>> me, and I felt it unlikely that I would get the patches in the correct
>>>> position on the tubes.
>>>>
>>>> Time will tell how this approach works out.
>>>>
>>>> For what it is worth,
>>>>
>>>> Nick Cassara
>>>> Palmer, Alaska
>>>>
>>>> Kolb Kolbra Prototype about 90% done
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Sorry about the duplicate messages |
Kolbers,
Sorry about the duplicate messagesnot only did your have the option of reading
my post eight times, but I received a message that my post was undeliverable.amazing
what my ignorance is capable some times!
Nick Cassara
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| Subject: | Sorry about the duplicate messages |
Kolbers,
Sorry about the duplicate messagesnot only did your have the option of reading
my post eight times, but I received a message that my post was undeliverable.amazing
what my ignorance is capable some times!
Nick Cassara
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| Subject: | Re: Sorry about the duplicate messages |
Perhaps your inexperience is just due to the fact that you don't post often
enough.
Larry
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
>
> Kolbers,
>
> Sorry about the duplicate messagesnot only did your have the opt
ion of
> reading my post eight times, but I received a message that my post was
> undeliverable.amazing what my ignorance is capable some times!
>
> Nick Cassara
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sorry about the duplicate messages |
Nick- that didn't happen here. The message below is what showed up, and it only
came once.
do not archive
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Subject: Kolb-List: Sorry about the duplicate messages
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, August 1, 2017, 11:09 AM
Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net>
Kolbers,
Sorry about the duplicate
messagesnot only did your have the option of reading my
post eight times, but I received a message that my post was
undeliverable.amazing what my ignorance is capable some
times!
Nick Cassara
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Kolbers,
Sorry about the duplicate messagesnot only did your have the option of reading
my post eight times, but I received a message that my post was undeliverable.amazing
what my ignorance is capable some times!
Nick Cassara
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Kolbers,
Sorry about the duplicate messagesnot only did your have the option of reading
my post eight times, but I received a message that my post was undeliverable.amazing
what my ignorance is capable some times!
Nick Cassara
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Kolbers,
Sorry about the duplicate messagesnot only did your have the option of reading
my post eight times, but I received a message that my post was undeliverable.amazing
what my ignorance is capable some times!
Nick Cassara
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
Nick,
I too use the beads in my motorcycle tires with great success. So much so I put
them in my Ford Explorer at last tire change. I wouldn't hesitate to try them
in the Firefly tires if the need ever arises.
The question of when they "kick in" is a bit tricky for me to figure out. Your
tire would be turning faster than a motorcycle tire so the centripetal force would
be greater, but the distance from the axle would be shorter so that may negate
the increased rotational speed.
As for getting the beads into the tires. Are you using tubes? If not, seat the
tire, then deflate and break one bead. Push it down and pour the beads in. If
you have a tube the valve stem should be the same size as any other tire. Take
the core out and put a short piece of 1/4" hose on the stem. Put the beads in
a small squeeze bottle that has a spout on it. Insert spout into hose and squeeze
gently. If the beads bind up in the tube gently tap the valve stem with a
screwdriver or something and they will flow in. Remember, just go slow.
Make sure that there is no left over lube in the tire as it will cause the beads
to clump together.
Hope this helps,
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Cassara
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:28 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Balancing Tundra tires...
>
> Hello Kolbers,
>
> A few weeks back I finished a project, with Larry and Boyds help, and I promised
to share it with the List.
> So here goes.
>
> I had never thought of balancing the tires on my plane, and if I had not bought
the Desser 8.50 x 6 inch tires, I am not sure it would matter.
> As you probably remember Larry posted another example of his homestead creativity,
where he melted down what looked like about a 1/2 pound of .357 lead wad
cutter, poured them into appropriately sized molds to balance each wheel, then
when they cooled he hot glued these custom weights to his rims and balanced
his tundra tires.
>
> Larry and Boyd said the better way to balance a tire is out at the tread" rather
than at the center, and encouraged me to try it. I discovered that the front
bias ply tires of tractor trailer rigs are in fact balanced using leaded patch
stuck on the inside of the tire.
> These leaded patches are of a scale way beyond what I needed. I found however
that regular radial truck tire patches were heavy enough.
>
> I balanced my tires by spinning them on a dowel to find the light spots. By taping
1/4 oz, lead car tire weights, to the outside of my Tundra tires tread I
determined that it only required 1 3/4 oz of lead to balance my first tire, verses
5 oz taped on the rim. The other tire required 6 oz on the rim and 2 oz
on the tread.
>
> I then mounted radial tire patches to the appropriate locations on the inside
of the tires to balance the tires. The first tire was balanced with one patch
glued to the inside of the tire. The second tire required two patches trimmed
down and mated together to form one slightly elongated patch. Ideally the patches
would be mounted to the tubes, but I did not think I was a good enough Tire
technician to pull that off. Putting the tubes in and out of the tires was
the hardest part of the whole project for me, and I felt it unlikely that I would
get the patches in the correct position on the tubes.
>
> Time will tell how this approach works out.
>
> For what it is worth,
>
> Nick Cassara
> Palmer, Alaska
>
> Kolb Kolbra Prototype about 90% done
>
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Kolbers,
Sorry about the duplicate messagesnot only did your have the option of reading
my post eight times, but I received a message that my post was undeliverable.amazing
what my ignorance is capable some times!
Nick Cassara
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Stuart Harner <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
wrote:
>
>
> As for getting the beads into the tires. Are you using tubes? If not, seat
> the tire, then deflate and break one bead. Push it down and pour the beads
> in. If you have a tube the valve stem should be the same size as any other
> tire. Take the core out and put a short piece of 1/4" hose on the stem. Put
> the beads in a small squeeze bottle that has a spout on it. Insert spout
> into hose and squeeze gently. If the beads bind up in the tube gently tap
> the valve stem with a screwdriver or something and they will flow in.
> Remember, just go slow.
>
> Make sure that there is no left over lube in the tire as it will cause the
> beads to clump together.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Stuart
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I decided that the tube for the tundra's was a special tube and perhaps
> the opening under the valve stem was different from other tires. In any
> case I used fuel line to fit over the stem. (valve stem removed of course)
> tried to tap them into the tube. Nope balled up! Then saw a you tube video
> of blowing them in with a short burst of air, air- Nope, balled up, or blew
> back out when the air hose was removed. Tried three different times, and
> only got them on the floor. At that point I started melting lead.
>
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
The day before I departed Alabama to fly to Sherman, TX, to meet my Kolb bu
ddies flying in from Texas and LA, I decided to Slime my main gear tubes.
The year prior, 2008, several Kolbs had tire problems. I knew if I got in
that situation I would be SOL. Takes an act of God to get break the beads
and remove the tubes to repair or replace, if one has a replacement. I dec
ided to Slime them. That would take care of the little problems that might
crop up.
Took off the next morning for our rendezvous at Sherman, TX. Soon as I sta
rted rolling good on takeoff I knew I had made a bad mistake. Thought the
main gear was going to shake the MKIII to pieces. I lived with this super
shake to Monument Valley, UT, Rock House, OR, and all the way back to Alaba
ma. I dreaded taking off and landing. I think a flat tire would have been
easier to live with.
Needless to say I changed out the tubes soon as I got back home. No more S
lime in my airplane tires! I can live with a little tire bounce. Hit the
brakes soon after breaking ground and it is gone. Don't notice it landing
because I am bouncing anyhow.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Balancing Tundra tires...
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Stuart Harner <stuart@harnerfarm.net> wrot
e:
As for getting the beads into the tires. Are you using tubes? If not, seat
the tire, then deflate and break one bead. Push it down and pour the beads
in. If you have a tube the valve stem should be the same size as any other
tire. Take the core out and put a short piece of 1/4" hose on the stem. Put
the beads in a small squeeze bottle that has a spout on it. Insert spout i
nto hose and squeeze gently. If the beads bind up in the tube gently tap th
e valve stem with a screwdriver or something and they will flow in. Remembe
r, just go slow.
Make sure that there is no left over lube in the tire as it will cause the
beads to clump together.
Hope this helps,
Stuart
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-------------------------------------------
I decided that the tube for the tundra's was a special tube and perhaps the
opening under the valve stem was different from other tires. In any case I
used fuel line to fit over the stem. (valve stem removed of course) tried
to tap them into the tube. Nope balled up! Then saw a you tube video of blo
wing them in with a short burst of air, air- Nope, balled up, or blew back
out when the air hose was removed. Tried three different times, and only go
t them on the floor. At that point I started melting lead.
Larry
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Kolbers,
Sorry about the duplicate messagesnot only did your have the option of reading
my post eight times, but I received a message that my post was undeliverable.amazing
what my ignorance is capable some times!
Nick Cassara
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
Larry, the Dyna Beads I bought had a device to get them in the valve stem
shipped with them. Never had to use it since my scoot has tubeless tires.
Just put 2 oz in a baggie and he pours them in.
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On August 1, 2017 9:40:53 AM Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nick, I've been using balancing beads in my cycle tires for years. Same
> idea, balancing at outer circumference, but there's no user adjustment. As
> soon as the wheel spins the beads position themselves to balance the wheel
> perfectly. Got 15K miles on the last front tire on my BMW K1600GTL. Coming
> on 30K now with some tread remaining.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The first thing I tried was balancing beads. I ordered some from O'Reilly's
> but could never get any of them in the tube. The tubes for these Tundra
> tires has an opening so small I could never get anything in them. I tried
> every method on You tube, and as far as I know never got a single bead in
> the tube. That's when I gave up and made my own weights.
>
> The beads were very small, but not small enough to get them aywhere but the
> floor.
>
> Larry
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Kolbers,
Sorry about the duplicate messagesnot only did your have the option of reading
my post eight times, but I received a message that my post was undeliverable.amazing
what my ignorance is capable some times!
Nick Cassara
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
Interesting. I did see where one guy used an electric engraving pen (the
kind that vibrates a scribe point) and just held the side of the pen to
the valve stem and the beads just flowed in.
Don=99t know about different stem sizes, could be, I just
don=99t know about them.
If you were really (I mean REALLY) patient, you could pick them up one
at a time with tweezers and drop them into the stem. J
Or you could cut a small hole in the tube, use a funnel and then patch
the tube!
Never mind, just being a smart aleck.
Glad you found a solution,
Stuart
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Balancing Tundra tires...
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Stuart Harner <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
wrote:
As for getting the beads into the tires. Are you using tubes? If not,
seat the tire, then deflate and break one bead. Push it down and pour
the beads in. If you have a tube the valve stem should be the same size
as any other tire. Take the core out and put a short piece of 1/4" hose
on the stem. Put the beads in a small squeeze bottle that has a spout on
it. Insert spout into hose and squeeze gently. If the beads bind up in
the tube gently tap the valve stem with a screwdriver or something and
they will flow in. Remember, just go slow.
Make sure that there is no left over lube in the tire as it will cause
the beads to clump together.
Hope this helps,
Stuart
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
I decided that the tube for the tundra's was a special tube and perhaps
the opening under the valve stem was different from other tires. In any
case I used fuel line to fit over the stem. (valve stem removed of
course) tried to tap them into the tube. Nope balled up! Then saw a you
tube video of blowing them in with a short burst of air, air- Nope,
balled up, or blew back out when the air hose was removed. Tried three
different times, and only got them on the floor. At that point I
started melting lead.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Tundra tires... |
That is good to know. Never slimed anything but lawn mower and wheel
borrow tires or other slow rolling stuff.
One would think that being a fluid it would just spread out. Must be too
viscus.
I too have bounced landings but never a take-off.
Thanks for the smile,
Stuart
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:21 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Balancing Tundra tires...
The day before I departed Alabama to fly to Sherman, TX, to meet my Kolb
buddies flying in from Texas and LA, I decided to Slime my main gear
tubes. The year prior, 2008, several Kolbs had tire problems. I knew
if I got in that situation I would be SOL. Takes an act of God to get
break the beads and remove the tubes to repair or replace, if one has a
replacement. I decided to Slime them. That would take care of the
little problems that might crop up.
Took off the next morning for our rendezvous at Sherman, TX. Soon as I
started rolling good on takeoff I knew I had made a bad mistake.
Thought the main gear was going to shake the MKIII to pieces. I lived
with this super shake to Monument Valley, UT, Rock House, OR, and all
the way back to Alabama. I dreaded taking off and landing. I think a
flat tire would have been easier to live with.
Needless to say I changed out the tubes soon as I got back home. No
more Slime in my airplane tires! I can live with a little tire bounce.
Hit the brakes soon after breaking ground and it is gone. Don't notice
it landing because I am bouncing anyhow.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Balancing Tundra tires...
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Stuart Harner <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
wrote:
As for getting the beads into the tires. Are you using tubes? If not,
seat the tire, then deflate and break one bead. Push it down and pour
the beads in. If you have a tube the valve stem should be the same size
as any other tire. Take the core out and put a short piece of 1/4" hose
on the stem. Put the beads in a small squeeze bottle that has a spout on
it. Insert spout into hose and squeeze gently. If the beads bind up in
the tube gently tap the valve stem with a screwdriver or something and
they will flow in. Remember, just go slow.
Make sure that there is no left over lube in the tire as it will cause
the beads to clump together.
Hope this helps,
Stuart
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
I decided that the tube for the tundra's was a special tube and perhaps
the opening under the valve stem was different from other tires. In any
case I used fuel line to fit over the stem. (valve stem removed of
course) tried to tap them into the tube. Nope balled up! Then saw a you
tube video of blowing them in with a short burst of air, air- Nope,
balled up, or blew back out when the air hose was removed. Tried three
different times, and only got them on the floor. At that point I
started melting lead.
Larry
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| Subject: | Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Kolb-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kolb-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Kolb-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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