---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 08/25/17: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:04 AM - Anybody have a MK 2 ??? (dansbird) 2. 08:19 AM - Re: Anybody have a MK 2 ??? (Lee) 3. 08:34 AM - Re: Anybody have a MK 2 ??? (Jerry-TS-MkII) 4. 08:57 AM - Re: Twinstar fuel tank options (Jerry-TS-MkII) 5. 09:01 AM - Looking for a used Warp Driver prop (TheWanderingWench) 6. 09:30 AM - Re: Anybody have a MK 2 ??? (dansbird) 7. 09:51 AM - Re: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options (Charlie England) 8. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options (George Helton) 9. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options (mojavjoe@comcast.net) 10. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: Anybody have a MK 2 =?UTF-8?Q?=3F=3F=3F? (Mark) 11. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options (Wayne Schneider) 12. 10:10 AM - Re: Twinstar fuel tank options (Jerry-TS-MkII) 13. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options (George Helton) 14. 11:27 AM - Re: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options (Charlie England) 15. 11:45 AM - Re: Mark III Classic Dash (mojavjoe@comcast.net) 16. 11:47 AM - Re: Mark III Classic Dash (mojavjoe@comcast.net) 17. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options (Stuart Harner) 18. 05:04 PM - Firestar 2 checklists (Mcabbage) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:37 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Anybody have a MK 2 ??? From: "dansbird" So I just purchased a Kolb MK II and have questions and would like some pictures if anyone is rebuilding one or has older pictures of a build and willing to chat with me, assistance would be greatly appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472164#472164 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:36 AM PST US From: "Lee" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Anybody have a MK 2 ??? I rebuilt a Kolb Twinstar MK II 2 years ago. Anything specific that you are looking for ? Lee So I just purchased a Kolb MK II and have questions and would like some pictures if anyone is rebuilding one or has older pictures of a build and willing to chat with me, assistance would be greatly appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472164#472164 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:56 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Anybody have a MK 2 ??? From: "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> I saw the posted message, and thought "did I post that?". (Likely too many miles of driving and too few flying!). I too just purchased a MK II, and should have a set of manuals on the way probably today. With mine, I have a few fuse issues to resolve, and a friend is going over the 503. Hopefully it won't be too long before I'm in the air with it. Jerry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472171#472171 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:57:14 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options From: "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> Needing fuel tanks or tank for a recent MK II purchase, I looked at the US Plastics listings. All say "Not for Fuel". Does anyone have experience using these? Or if they are OK to use? Jerry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472172#472172 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:33 AM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Kolb-List: Looking for a used Warp Driver prop I'm looking for a used pusher Warp Drive prop. 68", 3 blade - preferably wi th nickle leading edges, but that's not a requirement. I have a hub and all the mounting bolts, etc. - so if you have three matchi ng 68" blades, let me know Arty TrostSandy, Oregon=C2-www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe t hrough life just to arrive safely at death." S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:10 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Anybody have a MK 2 ??? From: "dansbird" Thanks for the reply, I am looking for pictures of the main cage structure (drivers compartment) it looks like someone has done some work to it and not sure if structure is missing, not correct or just missing all together, the landing gear has also been changed and not happy with the way the left wheel sits, so pictures of the landing gear would also be helpful. PM me and I would be happy to give my phone # and talk in person. This is my first plane so excited to learn all about it but for my own piece of mind got to make sure everything is right. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472174#472174 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:02 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options From: Charlie England On 8/25/2017 10:56 AM, Jerry-TS-MkII wrote: > > Needing fuel tanks or tank for a recent MK II purchase, I looked at the US Plastics listings. All say "Not for Fuel". Does anyone have experience using these? Or if they are OK to use? > Jerry > The 5 gal tank you buy from Kolb is also 'not for fuel'. It's just a 5 gal chemical jug. That is not just from observation of the product; it's straight from the horse's mouth at Kolb, as of a couple of weeks ago. If you want a truly fuel rated tank, US plastics has those, too. They just cost about 4 times as much. Look for 'CARB' rated tanks on the web site. But all you're really getting for the money is a sticker on the tank. None of the tanks used in experimental a/c are 'approved' for fuel, because the haven't paid to get some gov. official's 'seal of approval'. US Plastics also have all manner of fittings, vented/unvented caps, bushings for the tanks (though those are a bit more expensive than from the aviation suppliers), quick disconnects, etc. But don't just take my advice without doing your own research; it's only worth what you paid for it. :-) Charlie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:52 AM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options Kolb Aircraft. Com They can supply everything you need, including new rubber grommets. We need to support them all we can. I built Twinstar MKII back in the late 80's. Flew it for about 4 years. It was a good airplane. What year is the Kolb you bought? Restoring can be a big job. I just finished restoring a original Firestar. George H. Firestar, FS 100 14GDH Mesick, MI. gdhelton@gmail.com Have a great day! > On Aug 25, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Jerry-TS-MkII <12flybellaire@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Needing fuel tanks or tank for a recent MK II purchase, I looked at the US Plastics listings. All say "Not for Fuel". Does anyone have experience using these? Or if they are OK to use? > Jerry > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472172#472172 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:01 AM PST US From: mojavjoe@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options Go to the fuel tank section of U S Plastics Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 11:56:53 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options Needing fuel tanks or tank for a recent MK II purchase, I looked at the US Plastics listings. All say "Not for Fuel". Does anyone have experience using these? Or if they are OK to use? Jerry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472172#472172 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:50 AM PST US From: Mark Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Anybody have a MK 2 =?UTF-8?Q?=3F=3F=3F? I have a few more photos from several angles if you want to take a look. Let me know. Mark On 08/25/2017 12:29, dansbird wrote: > > Thanks for the reply, I am looking for pictures of the main cage > structure (drivers compartment) it looks like someone has done some > work to it and not sure if structure is missing, not correct or just > missing all together, the landing gear has also been changed and not > happy with the way the left wheel sits, so pictures of the landing > gear would also be helpful. PM me and I would be happy to give my > phone # and talk in person. This is my first plane so excited to > learn > all about it but for my own piece of mind got to make sure everything > is right. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472174#472174 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:58 AM PST US From: Wayne Schneider Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options The boating industry seems to have a good supply for fuel rated tanks. My Mark II Twinstar has a 12 gallon tank. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:53 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options From: "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> Thanks for the info. My intent is to get this in the air before winter... to do a bit of flying,and find out what it might truly need. So the plastic tank(s) would only be temporary anyway. In looking inside the fuse, I think a inverted saddle tank, that goes under the boom would be ideal. But that also means vinyl ester, or aluminum/tig fabrication.. better for a winter project. Installation would be easy from below, and a "normal" fuel tank filler thru the side of the fabric would also be a nice addition. Something about two tanks sitting right behind my head.. not ideal. I'll do a search for tank installations or option photos asap. jr Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472180#472180 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:26 AM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options Modifying a Twinstar is something that shouldn't be done without careful consideration? Mounting fuel under the boom tube could quite dangerous for two reasons. One is a radical shift in the CG of aircraft and the second is possibly rupturing of tank or tanks on bent or broken landing gear situations. The only thing wrong with the present placement behind you is, they're a pain in the rear to refuel. But, their placement is critical to prevent an aft CG situation. This is just my opinion from years of flying a MKII. If you post some pictures of your cage Assy. I'd look them over. I built mine according to the plans provided by Kolb. George Have a great day! > On Aug 25, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Jerry-TS-MkII <12flybellaire@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for the info. My intent is to get this in the air before winter... to do a bit of flying,and find out what it might truly need. So the plastic tank(s) would only be temporary anyway. In looking inside the fuse, I think a inverted saddle tank, that goes under the boom would be ideal. But that also means vinyl ester, or aluminum/tig fabrication.. better for a winter project. Installation would be easy from below, and a "normal" fuel tank filler thru the side of the fabric would also be a nice addition. Something about two tanks sitting right behind my head.. not ideal. I'll do a search for tank installations or option photos asap. jr > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472180#472180 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:27:29 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Jerry-TS-MkII <12flybellaire@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the info. My intent is to get this in the air before winter... > to do a bit of flying,and find out what it might truly need. So the > plastic tank(s) would only be temporary anyway. In looking inside the > fuse, I think a inverted saddle tank, that goes under the boom would be > ideal. But that also means vinyl ester, or aluminum/tig fabrication.. > better for a winter project. Installation would be easy from below, and a > "normal" fuel tank filler thru the side of the fabric would also be a nice > addition. Something about two tanks sitting right behind my head.. not > ideal. I'll do a search for tank installations or option photos asap. jr > > Aluminum/tank sealant/rivets is also a reasonable option. Closed head 'pop' rivets are available, if you don't have bucking equipment. Attached is a pic of the US Plastics 8gal tank I'm fitting. I wish it would fit between the bracing & the boom tube, but it's just a bit too tall. So, it has to sit in the original location of the 5gal tank. I'll try facing the filler forward, and hope I can set up the root fairing so I can peel it off for fueling. If that doesn't work, I'll just turn it around so it's oriented like the original tank. My ideal choice would be a tank that fits under the bracing, sitting on the boom tube just behind the seats, with the filler pointing forward between the seats (original Twinstar with no enclosure). If you don't mind the fueling inconvenience (my big gripe with the stock 'high' location) and intend to bottom-feed from the tanks, two of the US-P 5gal chemical tanks is by far the simplest, and cheapest way to go. Probably under $30 including shipping. Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:45 AM PST US From: mojavjoe@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mark III Classic Dash My Firestar SS is setup for a pod similar to the MarkIII. I wanted space for an I-Fly and an Amptronic GX-2 so I built one from fiberglass. I'll attach two photos to this message and a couple to the next ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonealjr" Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 4:32:18 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Mark III Classic Dash Hi Guys, Hope everyone is enjoying there Kolb in one way or another. I am in progress of designing a new aluminum dash for my Mark III Classic, mainly because I have some new avionics but secondly I am sick and tires of not being able to reach the current dash. I would really appreciate any input from others that have improved there dash. If you have any pictures, drawings, dimensions or just some ideas you might have thought of because you're struggling from same deal. I thank anyone who shares with me in advanced. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472008#472008 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:47:45 AM PST US From: mojavjoe@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mark III Classic Dash more photos ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonealjr" Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 4:32:18 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Mark III Classic Dash Hi Guys, Hope everyone is enjoying there Kolb in one way or another. I am in progress of designing a new aluminum dash for my Mark III Classic, mainly because I have some new avionics but secondly I am sick and tires of not being able to reach the current dash. I would really appreciate any input from others that have improved there dash. If you have any pictures, drawings, dimensions or just some ideas you might have thought of because you're struggling from same deal. I thank anyone who shares with me in advanced. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472008#472008 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:36 PM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options I found this for fueling the Firefly. I mix the gas in the can, insert the pump and then lift the can onto a stand sitting next to the fuselage. Then just pump the fuel into the plane, no pouring involved. With 4 AA batteries, it will move 5 gallons of gas in less than 3 minutes. No Spills! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SBZRKEU/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w Stuart -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helton Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar fuel tank options Modifying a Twinstar is something that shouldn't be done without careful consideration? Mounting fuel under the boom tube could quite dangerous for two reasons. One is a radical shift in the CG of aircraft and the second is possibly rupturing of tank or tanks on bent or broken landing gear situations. The only thing wrong with the present placement behind you is, they're a pain in the rear to refuel. But, their placement is critical to prevent an aft CG situation. This is just my opinion from years of flying a MKII. If you post some pictures of your cage Assy. I'd look them over. I built mine according to the plans provided by Kolb. George Have a great day! > On Aug 25, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Jerry-TS-MkII <12flybellaire@gmail.com> wrote: > > --> <12flybellaire@gmail.com> > > Thanks for the info. My intent is to get this in the air before > winter... to do a bit of flying,and find out what it might truly need. > So the plastic tank(s) would only be temporary anyway. In looking > inside the fuse, I think a inverted saddle tank, that goes under the > boom would be ideal. But that also means vinyl ester, or aluminum/tig > fabrication.. better for a winter project. Installation would be easy > from below, and a "normal" fuel tank filler thru the side of the > fabric would also be a nice addition. Something about two tanks > sitting right behind my head.. not ideal. I'll do a search for tank > installations or option photos asap. jr > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472180#472180 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar 2 checklists From: "Mcabbage" Hi Guys Can anybody share their preflight/landing & post flight checklist for their firestar thank you Mike -------- 2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD Moster 185 Flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472197#472197 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.