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1. 05:01 AM - Re: Twinstar Mk3 Classic MAUW (normros)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: Twinstar Mk3 Classic MAUW (Richard Pike)
3. 12:11 PM - Re: Advise on radio and headset (Mcabbage)
4. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: Advise on radio and headset ()
5. 01:31 PM - Re: Advise on radio and headset (Mcabbage)
6. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Advise on radio and headset (Larry Cottrell)
7. 02:11 PM - Fw: Re: Advise on radio and headset (Larry Cottrell)
8. 02:58 PM - Re: Advise on radio and headset (Mcabbage)
9. 03:03 PM - Re: Re: Advise on radio and headset (Larry Cottrell)
10. 03:10 PM - Re: Advise on radio and headset (Mcabbage)
11. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Advise on radio and headset (Charlie England)
12. 03:34 PM - Re: Advise on radio and headset (Mcabbage)
13. 03:52 PM - Re: Advise on radio and headset (Jerry-TS-MkII)
14. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: Advise on radio and headset ()
15. 04:06 PM - Re: Re: Advise on radio and headset ()
16. 05:27 PM - Zanesville Ohio fly in (GARY JINDRA)
17. 05:50 PM - Re: Advise on radio and headset (Mcabbage)
18. 07:14 PM - Re: Zanesville Ohio fly in (japowell)
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| Subject: | Re: Twinstar Mk3 Classic MAUW |
Official MAUW is 390Kg (860lbs) in the U.K.
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| Subject: | Re: Twinstar Mk3 Classic MAUW |
Gracious: With full fuel, I'd barely be able to take my granddaughter.
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Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough. Being forgiven is wonderful.
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
Hi John
Do you use anything other than the stock antenna that came with your Icom?
Thx Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
I use a 21" ELT antenna, may be a 24". Can't remember for sure.
About 6' of coax cable trimmed for best SWR.
The ICOM A6 is also very effective using the rubber ducky antenna. I carry it
in the aircraft in case I would have to use the radio outside the aircraft.
I have had good luck with ICOM handheld radios.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
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> Thx Mike
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> Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
Thank you John.
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
I believe the correct length for aircraft is 23.5 inches.
Larry
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:52 PM, <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> I use a 21" ELT antenna, may be a 24". Can't remember for sure.
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> About 6' of coax cable trimmed for best SWR.
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> The ICOM A6 is also very effective using the rubber ducky antenna. I
> carry it in the aircraft in case I would have to use the radio outside the
> aircraft.
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> I have had good luck with ICOM handheld radios.
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> john h
> mkIII
> Rock House, Oregon
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> ---- Mcabbage <Mc@americanbuilding.com> wrote:
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> > Hi John
> > Do you use anything other than the stock antenna that came with your
> Icom?
> > Thx Mike
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> > 2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
> > Moster 185 Flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> > Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
I believe the correct length for aircraft is 23.5 inches. That should give
you the best swr match.
Larry
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:52 PM, <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> I use a 21" ELT antenna, may be a 24". Can't remember for sure.
>
> About 6' of coax cable trimmed for best SWR.
>
> The ICOM A6 is also very effective using the rubber ducky antenna. I
> carry it in the aircraft in case I would have to use the radio outside the
> aircraft.
>
> I have had good luck with ICOM handheld radios.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Rock House, Oregon
>
>
> ---- Mcabbage <Mc@americanbuilding.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi John
> > Do you use anything other than the stock antenna that came with your
> Icom?
> > Thx Mike
> >
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> > 2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
> > Moster 185 Flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> > Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
Thank you Larry.
Is it best to keep the antenna as far away from the engine as possible? I think
I remember reading that somewhere.
Does it matter?
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Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
I think most of us put them on the bottom of the cage, using the frame work
to enable us to put in a ground plane to secure it to.
Larry
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Mcabbage <Mc@americanbuilding.com> wrote:
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> Thank you Larry.
>
> Is it best to keep the antenna as far away from the engine as possible? I
> think I remember reading that somewhere.
> Does it matter?
>
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> 2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
> Moster 185 Flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473082#473082
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
Ok I remember seeing a post about that a while back.
Will do a search. There was one on my plane before I stripped it of everything
to sandblast the frame. I also have pics I took too.
Thanks
Mike
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2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
Moster 185 Flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
There's a good article describing how to calculate length in a recent issue
of Kitplanes. There are several 'correction factors' that should be applied
(that shorten the length) after doing the speed of light/wavelength thing.
IIRC, final answer for middle of the a/c comm band was closer to 21"
BTW, if you're not a subscriber, Kitplanes is a really good resource for
DIY homebuilt owner/maintainers. The current editor is a former NASA
mission controller/manager who's also built a couple of RV's, a bush plane,
and a motor glider. Lots of really good techy how-to stuff in addition to
the 'feature' pieces. I've been doing pretty much everything mechanical for
over 50 years, and I still learn something from every issue.
Charlie
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> I believe the correct length for aircraft is 23.5 inches. That should give
> you the best swr match.
>
> Larry
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:52 PM, <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I use a 21" ELT antenna, may be a 24". Can't remember for sure.
>>
>> About 6' of coax cable trimmed for best SWR.
>>
>> The ICOM A6 is also very effective using the rubber ducky antenna. I
>> carry it in the aircraft in case I would have to use the radio outside the
>> aircraft.
>>
>> I have had good luck with ICOM handheld radios.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>> Rock House, Oregon
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>>
>> ---- Mcabbage <Mc@americanbuilding.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi John
>> > Do you use anything other than the stock antenna that came with your
>> Icom?
>> > Thx Mike
>> >
>> > --------
>> > 2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
>> > Moster 185 Flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
>> > Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
>> >
>> >
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
Thanks Charlie will check out he magazine too!
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
The location of the antenna can affect the radiation pattern. If using a whip
antenna, think of a doughnut over the wire.. and the signal strength is highest
were the doughnut is thickest. Very little signal strength off the end of the
antenna.. it's broadside that works. Since we fly horizontally, put the whip
near vertical, and in a clear area. A aluminum disk can be placed under the
fabric, to help establish a ground plane if needed on fabric airplanes, or the
SWR shows high. Since most of your communications will be with a tower, or
another nearby plane, range isn't typically a major factor. If the signal is
weak.. fly higher. That will have a more profound effect than any other factor,
if the install is working.
As with any remote antenna, make sure to use low loss foam core coax.. without
sharp kinks, and put a SWR meter between the radio and the cable to make sure
you don't have excessive standing waves (more likely caused by a short, or a bad
antenna, or connector install if done by a individual).
ECM, DF, and avionics repairman in Vietnam, 2nd class FCC license state side, and
2 more years avoinics, 2 years general 2-way communication, installs and bench
service to component level on all. Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
That sounds about right.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
---- Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe the correct length for aircraft is 23.5 inches.
>
> Larry
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:52 PM, <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I use a 21" ELT antenna, may be a 24". Can't remember for sure.
> >
> > About 6' of coax cable trimmed for best SWR.
> >
> > The ICOM A6 is also very effective using the rubber ducky antenna. I
> > carry it in the aircraft in case I would have to use the radio outside the
> > aircraft.
> >
> > I have had good luck with ICOM handheld radios.
> >
> > john h
> > mkIII
> > Rock House, Oregon
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- Mcabbage <Mc@americanbuilding.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi John
> > > Do you use anything other than the stock antenna that came with your
> > Icom?
> > > Thx Mike
> > >
> > > --------
> > > 2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
> > > Moster 185 Flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> > > Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
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> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473070#473070
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
Meant to answer this in my previous.
My antenna is mounted under the nose cone on a 6 inch diameter aluminum sheet ground
plane. The stainless steel whip has a 45 degree bend in it.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
---- Mcabbage <Mc@americanbuilding.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Larry.
>
> Is it best to keep the antenna as far away from the engine as possible? I think
I remember reading that somewhere.
> Does it matter?
>
> --------
> 2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
> Moster 185 Flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473082#473082
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| Subject: | Zanesville Ohio fly in |
Remembered that someone on the Kolblist lived near Zanesville Oh. There wil
l be a couple of us flying Mark 3s into Zanesville for the fly in tomorrow
Sat. 23rd=C2-Gary JindraKolb mark 3
400 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Advise on radio and headset |
Thanks John that is what the previous owner had. I guess I was being lazy and thinking
to use a hand held stand alone.
That being said I want as good as reasonable communications as possible so its
worth the time to re install.
Appreciate your help!
Mike
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2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
Moster 185 Flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| Subject: | Re: Zanesville Ohio fly in |
That would be me. I will be there. What time are you flying in?
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Jim P
WAR EAGLE
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