---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/06/17: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:11 PM - Re: wing center gap seal (west1m) 2. 12:48 PM - Re: wing center gap seal (Charlie England) 3. 01:03 PM - Re: wing center gap seal (Larry Cottrell) 4. 09:27 PM - Re: wing center gap seal (Charlie England) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:34 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: wing center gap seal From: "west1m" I went back to an aluminium gap seal after my cloth one shred it self. You can kind of see it coming apart in this screen grab form a video. It was made of the same fabric as Quicksilver sail cloth. The Lexan would be nice as well. -------- West1m Hastings, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473392#473392 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/gapseal_195.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wing center gap seal From: Charlie England Looks good, and relatively simple to do=2E The fabric just looks difficult to keep properly tensioned, so I think I'll try either the plastic or alumi num sheet=2E Is your Lexan standing up ok to fuel exposure? Thanks for bo th the info, and the pics=2E =81=A3Charlie=8B On Oct 5, 2017, 10 :41 AM, at 10:41 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote: >I h ave always used the lexan gap seal and attempted to cover and block >as >mu ch of the gap area that I can=2E MIne has a section of alum=2E bent to go > over the leading edge tubes=2E I use a small bungee cord to keep it up >tig ht >against the tubes=2E the sides are secured to the wings with velcro=2E Most >of >the Mark III's make up a "hard" section that slides in between th e >wings >that consists of a couple of ribs that the lexan is secured to=2E > >The installation of the HKS presented a problem because of the location >of >the muffler=2E > >Larry > >On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Charlie En gland >wrote: > >> I need to add the center gap se al to the (1st gen) Twinstar I'm >restoring=2E >> The project came with a n ew, uninstalled, fabric seal with a zipper >down >> the middle=2E I've alre ady recovered and painted (latex house paint) >the >> wings, & failed to ma sk off any fabric to attach the seal=2E >> >> Looking at the way the seal i s made, it appears to wrap around the >motor >> mount at the top rear, and wrap around the leading edge tubes in >front and >> extend back almost to t he wing attach/pivot points on the bottom=2E >> >> After a quick look aroun d the interwebs, it would appear that several >> different other methods ha ve been employed over the years, including >a >> plexi seal offered by Kolb =2E I also remember comments about using >aluminum=2E >> >> So, my question s: >> How far back must the seal extend on top? Is it worth the trouble to >run >> it back past the front of the motor mount? What about under the >le ading >> edge? Does it help to carry it all the way to the wing attach poin ts, >or >> can it simply wrap around the leading edge tubes? >> >> For atta chment, should it be velcro'd to each wing along its entire >> length, or i s it adequate to simply wrap it around the wing with >> attachments at the rear and under the leading edge (or at the wing >attach)? >> >> Thanks for your insight, >> >> Charlie >> > > >-- >*The older I get, the less toler ant I am of those who are intolerant of >others=2E* > >*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email >address before sending =2E* ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:09 PM PST US From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wing center gap seal If you get gas on it, it will be ugly. There is compensation in that my neck is so stiff that I can't see it when I am sitting down and I am old enough to forget that there is a problem quite soon after sitting. Larry On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Charlie England wrote: > Looks good, and relatively simple to do. The fabric just looks difficult > to keep properly tensioned, so I think I'll try either the plastic or > aluminum sheet. > > Is your Lexan standing up ok to fuel exposure? > > Thanks for both the info, and the pics. > > Charlie > On Oct 5, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Larry Cottrell > wrote: >> >> I have always used the lexan gap seal and attempted to cover and block as >> much of the gap area that I can. MIne has a section of alum. bent to go >> over the leading edge tubes. I use a small bungee cord to keep it up tight >> against the tubes. the sides are secured to the wings with velcro. Most of >> the Mark III's make up a "hard" section that slides in between the wings >> that consists of a couple of ribs that the lexan is secured to. >> >> The installation of the HKS presented a problem because of the location >> of the muffler. >> >> Larry >> >> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Charlie England >> wrote: >> >>> I need to add the center gap seal to the (1st gen) Twinstar I'm >>> restoring. The project came with a new, uninstalled, fabric seal with a >>> zipper down the middle. I've already recovered and painted (latex house >>> paint) the wings, & failed to mask off any fabric to attach the seal. >>> >>> Looking at the way the seal is made, it appears to wrap around the motor >>> mount at the top rear, and wrap around the leading edge tubes in front and >>> extend back almost to the wing attach/pivot points on the bottom. >>> >>> After a quick look around the interwebs, it would appear that several >>> different other methods have been employed over the years, including a >>> plexi seal offered by Kolb. I also remember comments about using aluminum. >>> >>> So, my questions: >>> How far back must the seal extend on top? Is it worth the trouble to run >>> it back past the front of the motor mount? What about under the leading >>> edge? Does it help to carry it all the way to the wing attach points, or >>> can it simply wrap around the leading edge tubes? >>> >>> For attachment, should it be velcro'd to each wing along its entire >>> length, or is it adequate to simply wrap it around the wing with >>> attachments at the rear and under the leading edge (or at the wing attach)? >>> >>> Thanks for your insight, >>> >>> Charlie >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of >> others.* >> >> *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email >> address before sending.* >> > -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wing center gap seal From: Charlie England I hear you=2E Sometimes my wife has to remind me about what I'm working on =2E =81=A3Charlie=8B On Oct 6, 2017, 3:04 PM, at 3:04 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: >If you get gas on it, it will be ugly=2E There is compensation in that my >neck is so stiff that I can't see it when I am sitting down and I am >old >enough to forget that there is a problem quite soon after sitting=2E >Larry > >On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 1:1 5 PM, Charlie England >wrote: > >> Looks good, and relatively simple to do=2E The fabric just looks >difficult >> to keep pro perly tensioned, so I think I'll try either the plastic or >> aluminum shee t=2E >> >> Is your Lexan standing up ok to fuel exposure? >> >> Thanks for both the info, and the pics=2E >> >> Charlie >> On Oct 5, 2017, at 10:41 AM , Larry Cottrell >> wrote: >>> >>> I have alway s used the lexan gap seal and attempted to cover and >block as >>> much of the gap area that I can=2E MIne has a section of alum=2E bent to >go >>> ov er the leading edge tubes=2E I use a small bungee cord to keep it up >tight >>> against the tubes=2E the sides are secured to the wings with velcro=2E >Most of >>> the Mark III's make up a "hard" section that slides in betwee n the >wings >>> that consists of a couple of ribs that the lexan is secure d to=2E >>> >>> The installation of the HKS presented a problem because of the >location >>> of the muffler=2E >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 5, 20 17 at 7:56 AM, Charlie England > >>> wrote: >>> >>> > I need to add the center gap seal to the (1st gen) Twinstar I'm >>>> rest oring=2E The project came with a new, uninstalled, fabric seal >with a >>>> zipper down the middle=2E I've already recovered and painted (latex >house >>>> paint) the wings, & failed to mask off any fabric to attach the >seal =2E >>>> >>>> Looking at the way the seal is made, it appears to wrap aroun d the >motor >>>> mount at the top rear, and wrap around the leading edge t ubes in >front and >>>> extend back almost to the wing attach/pivot points on the bottom=2E >>>> >>>> After a quick look around the interwebs, it woul d appear that >several >>>> different other methods have been employed over the years, >including a >>>> plexi seal offered by Kolb=2E I also remember comments about using >aluminum=2E >>>> >>>> So, my questions: >>>> How far back must the seal extend on top? Is it worth the trouble >to run >>>> it back past the front of the motor mount? What about under the >leading >>>> edge? Does it help to carry it all the way to the wing attach >points, or > >>> can it simply wrap around the leading edge tubes? >>>> >>>> For attachm ent, should it be velcro'd to each wing along its entire >>>> length, or is it adequate to simply wrap it around the wing with >>>> attachments at the rear and under the leading edge (or at the wing >attach)? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your insight, >>>> >>>> Charlie >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant >of >>> others =2E* >>> >>> *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove m y >email >>> address before sending=2E* >>> >> > > >-- >*The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of >others=2E* > >*If yo u forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email >address be fore sending=2E* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.