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Sun 11/05/17


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     0. 05:34 AM - Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 06:04 AM - Re: Wing support dolly (RoHam)
     2. 06:14 AM - Re: Wing support dolly (RoHam)
     3. 07:21 AM - Mk 3 Classic weight (normros)
     4. 07:44 AM - Re: Mk 3 Classic weight (Richard Girard)
     5. 07:52 AM - Re: Mk 3 Classic weight (Rex Rodebush)
     6. 08:20 AM - Mk 3 w&b (B Young)
     7. 04:33 PM - Re: Wing support dolly (Richard Pike)
     8. 04:48 PM - Re: Wing support dolly (Richard Pike)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:34:05 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
    Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 06:04:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing support dolly
    From: "RoHam" <RoHam903@gmail.com>
    I have this one photo of a boom/wing caster assembly. I'd like to see a tailwheel hook for moving the plane when the wings are folded. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474423#474423 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/18527851_1687356057942061_5267761872095677092_n_124.jpg


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    Time: 06:14:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing support dolly
    From: "RoHam" <RoHam903@gmail.com>
    A buddy of mine uses these cradles that he purchased at Harbor Freight for short money. He has one also on tail wheel, which allows for movement in any direction. Sorry for large photo. I'm not sure how to shrink it. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474424#474424 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/20170910_143822_101.jpg


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    Time: 07:21:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Mk 3 Classic weight
    From: "normros" <norm2mac@gmail.com>
    I bought a Mk3 classic a few months ago and have been trying to get it back onto the UK register. I have been told I need an up to date weight and balance. However when I weighed the A/C I found it had put on 35 kilos since it's last weighing. It has been sitting unused for 4 years in a metal trailer - is it possible the fabric and/or airframe has absorbed moisture? Nothing (according to the log book) has been added since it's last weighing. Weights are (first weight is latest, second in brackets is previous):- Left wheel - 100 kilos (86 kilos) Right wheel - 100 kilos (84 kilos) Tail wheel - 30.5 kilos (29.8 kilos) Given that the tail weights are pretty similar, all the gained weight would appear to be round the wings and cockpit where the majority of the fabric is. Fuel in tanks has been allowed for. Thanks, Norman Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474428#474428


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    Time: 07:44:37 AM PST US
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Mk 3 Classic weight
    Norman, After working on two Mk III's to get their weight down, you're plane's original weight of 200 Kg is completely bogus. The factory lists the weight of the IIIC as 497 lb (224 Kg) and that is VERY difficult to achieve. According to Travis at Kolb the average Mk IIIX comes in at 600 lb! (both empty weights assume a 582, not a 912) I'd say either the original weighing was done incompetently or it was deliberately falsified. Rick Girard On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:21 AM, normros <norm2mac@gmail.com> wrote: > > I bought a Mk3 classic a few months ago and have been trying to get it > back onto the UK register. I have been told I need an up to date weight a nd > balance. However when I weighed the A/C I found it had put on 35 kilos > since it's last weighing. > It has been sitting unused for 4 years in a metal trailer - is it possibl e > the fabric and/or airframe has absorbed moisture? Nothing (according to t he > log book) has been added since it's last weighing. > Weights are (first weight is latest, second in brackets is previous):- > Left wheel - 100 kilos (86 kilos) > Right wheel - 100 kilos (84 kilos) > Tail wheel - 30.5 kilos (29.8 kilos) > Given that the tail weights are pretty similar, all the gained weight > would appear to be round the wings and cockpit where the majority of the > fabric is. > Fuel in tanks has been allowed for. > > Thanks, Norman > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474428#474428 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho Marx <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/43244.Groucho_Marx>


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    Time: 07:52:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mk 3 Classic weight
    From: "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush@gmail.com>
    Were the same scales used since last time? Has fuel been added since last time? Did the last guy add additional instrumentation or other stuff after he did the first weigh? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474430#474430


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    Time: 08:20:10 AM PST US
    From: B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
    Subject: Mk 3 w&b
    There is 30 kilos different on the main gear,,, that is a lot.... And the weight on the tail wheel is down... That would tell me that the weight on the mains was added in front of the mains.... Most of the wing fabric is behind the wheels, so I would be inclined to dismiss that idea... Was any weight added under the floor boards for w&b. Maybe the answer is in the accuracy of the scales???? Any chance they changed the engine? I can't think that is the case,,, the engine is behind the main gear and would have caused an increase in all 3 wheel weights. I don't think I have ever heard of a Mk 3 coming in at 200 k. 230 k is an extremely light Mk 3. Maybe with a 503.... Most come in at 270 k. Or 45.85 stone,,,,, or 600 Yankee pounds. :-) Boyd Young


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    Time: 04:33:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing support dolly
    From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
    Vince designed this for his FSII, we are using it on the FF, and it works good. A little explanation is in order: the two 1x4's lay on either side of the lower fin, and above the tail wheel, including above the arms that come out at the base of the rudder. The rest of it extends foreward so that the 2x4 with the castors on it is about even with the forward end of the vertical fin. Notice the rope that goes through one of the 1x4's about half way along: the rope goes through the opening just behind the aft fuselage ring where the elevator and rudder horns are, goes down to below the lower fin, and back up where it is passed through the rope loop and tied off to secure that section. Up at the front end, there is carpet to pad things, you also lay carpet over the boom tube and tie that all together with a rope wrapped around it. The two ends of the 1x4's stick out the back beyond the rudder a bit and you can use them to pick up the tail of the airplane or guide it around. The aft ends of the 1x4's have carpet padding on the inside to protect the fabric on the lower fin and the rudder. It is a bit tricky to get it in place the first few times, especially by yourself, but it works good once the airplane is tied to it. And when you fold the wings, it keeps the leading edges up away from the ground. You do want to have the horizontal stab tied up alongside the vertical fin before you start trying to get the dolly into position. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and Grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474452#474452 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1060433_medium_202.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1060432_medium_170.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1060431_medium_123.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1060430_medium_187.jpg


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    Time: 04:48:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing support dolly
    From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
    RoHam wrote: > Sorry for large photo. I'm not sure how to shrink it. No problem, apparently Windows 10 no longer includes the ability to resize pictures, so you are not alone. Fortunately there is a (free) fantastic user friendly image program that will do that and about everything else: http://www.irfanview.com/ -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and Grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474454#474454




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