---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/06/17: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:39 AM - Re: Mk 3 w&b (normros) 2. 04:04 AM - Re: Mk 3 Classic weight (normros) 3. 05:53 AM - Re: Mk 3 Classic weight (Gary Aman) 4. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: Mk 3 Classic weight (Gary Aman) 5. 06:12 AM - Re: Mk 3 Classic weight (John Hauck) 6. 06:05 PM - florida x country (Malcolm Brubaker) 7. 06:43 PM - Re: florida x country (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:29 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mk 3 w&b From: "normros" Thanks Boyd, it really is a puzzle. (582 by the way). Norman Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474464#474464 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:23 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mk 3 Classic weight From: "normros" Rex - Different scales, but we used 3 different sets and they were all within .5 kilos of each other - a fuel weight allowance was deducted (except for unusable fuel) - nothing has been added (according to the aircraft log). Rick - The UK has different "rules" than you folks, quote from the U.K. CAA (Civil Aviation Authority):- "A microlight is an aeroplane designed to carry either one person or two people (and not more) and which has a maximum total weight authorised (MTWA) not exceeding 450 kg for a two seat landplane A microlight must also have either a wing loading at the maximum weight authorised not exceeding 25 kg per square metre or a stalling speed at the maximum weight authorised not exceeding 35 knots calibrated speed." A wingtip extension modification was cleared to increase the wing area to 15.6 square metres allowing a MAUW of 390 Kilos (860lbs). I can't see the weights being falsified as they were done by two different LAA (Light Aircraft Association, the regulating body) Inspectors as was mine. I don't have any paperwork on the original build, but the guy flew it with permits for 6 years. There must be a very well fed family of mice living in the wings. :? Norman Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474465#474465 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:04 AM PST US From: Gary Aman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 Classic weight My friends mk3c with 582 was585# mine with Jab 2200 wheel pants and bucket seats 640# Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, normros wrote: > > > I bought a Mk3 classic a few months ago and have been trying to get it back onto the UK register. I have been told I need an up to date weight and balance. However when I weighed the A/C I found it had put on 35 kilos since it's last weighing. > It has been sitting unused for 4 years in a metal trailer - is it possible the fabric and/or airframe has absorbed moisture? Nothing (according to the log book) has been added since it's last weighing. > Weights are (first weight is latest, second in brackets is previous):- > Left wheel - 100 kilos (86 kilos) > Right wheel - 100 kilos (84 kilos) > Tail wheel - 30.5 kilos (29.8 kilos) > Given that the tail weights are pretty similar, all the gained weight would appear to be round the wings and cockpit where the majority of the fabric is. > Fuel in tanks has been allowed for. > > Thanks, Norman > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474428#474428 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:20 AM PST US From: Gary Aman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mk 3 Classic weight 70 # is hard to miss. Agree that original numbers could be fiction. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Rex Rodebush wrote: > > > Were the same scales used since last time? Has fuel been added since last time? Did the last guy add additional instrumentation or other stuff after he did the first weigh? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474430#474430 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:42 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mk 3 Classic weight My MKIIIc weighed 630 lbs in 1994. No telling what it weighs now. That's with a 912ULS. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 7:52 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 Classic weight My friends mk3c with 582 was585# mine with Jab 2200 wheel pants and bucket seats 640# Sent from my iPhone --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:13 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Kolb-List: florida x country =C2-we are flying a rans s6es w/a 912 from Clermont FL to Michigan next w eek .We can navigate the trip just fine but any suggestions on airports wit h better than average services and convent places to stay =C2- would be r eally cool . =C2- malMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.comLSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:16 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: florida x country I've flown up and down that route many times, but never found a convent at or near any of the airports I landed. What would you consider "better than average services?" For me that would be cheap self service av gas. I landed at a farmer's grass strip just outside Washington, Indiana, on a flight from OSH to Gantt International Airport, Alabama. Driven down by low viz and heavy rain. He put me up in his shop and took me to supper at the local Amish Buffet. Had a little gall from the local newspaper come out next morning to take photos and get an interview. Even sent me a copy of the article after I got back to hauck's holler. It was great. Normally they tell you they'll send you a copy, but never fulfill their promise. On another flight I landed at Washington Airport, Indiana. Discovered I could sleep in the FBO and found an old beater in the parking lot with the key in it. Beat feet down to the Amish Buffet once again. Those were fun days. Now those were really cool days, mal. Good luck and have a safe flight. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Brubaker Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 8:04 PM Subject: Kolb-List: florida x country we are flying a rans s6es w/a 912 from Clermont FL to Michigan next week .We can navigate the trip just fine but any suggestions on airports with better than average services and convent places to stay would be really cool . mal Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.