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| Subject: | Re: Folding wing question |
Check out the trailer web page George posted.
http://oh2fly.net/Main_trailer_kolb.htm
I used to travel with my VW powered Kolb MKIIIC quite a bit. I must have
pulled it 8,000 miles and never had any damage to my plane. Get a trailer
that is sprung for the weight of a Kolb. A trailer that is designed to
carry heavy loads will transfer the road bumps to your plane. Support the
tail and wing tips. Also support the wing roots to keep from stressing the
universal joints. Use a enclosed trailer and you are good to go.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:30 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Kolbs do just fine trailering on main gear.
>
> It is recommended to fabricate a pedestal to carry the tail boom and take
> the load off the tail wheel and tail wheel strut.
>
> Long distance trailering I removed the wings and secured in cradles on
> each wall of the trailer.
>
> An enclosed trailer is best for long distances and highway speeds.
>
> Open trailer for local traveling to and from airstrip.
>
> It is hard on the aircraft to tow at highway speeds on an open trailer.
>
> I've towed my Ultrastar, Firestar, and MKIII on the main gear with the
> tail wheel assembly attached to my tractor. It is 3 miles from my home t
o
> my grass strip. I did this with wings removed. Wouldn't want to do that
> every time I flew. Always scared to death some idiot was going to run ov
er
> my airplane on the highway. Always a nail biter.
>
> Homer Kolb designed folding wings on the Ultrastar and each model
> thereafter. It was always a big selling point.
>
> I don't fold unless I have to bring the airplane home to work on it.
> Haven't had to do that in many years. Instead of clevis pins I use AN
> bolts and nuts to attach wings and flying surfaces. All fittings have
> welded bushings. No slop in attachments.
>
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Fitt
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 4:02 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Folding wing question
>
>
> I'm Also am planning to trailer a fire star
> in an enclosed trailer. So, if traveling long distances will beat the
> plane up, how would you recommend supporting the plane if not on it's own
> wheels? Cushioned pads under the wheels...?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > --> <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> > Kolns are like gliders, in the fact that they are very lightweight but
> very long and narrow (when folded). So you can use a single axle, light
> weight trailer... but the trailer has to be something like 22 or 24 feet
> long. And it has to be strong (stiff) enough to not flex much.
> >
> > Ultralight and LSA style airplanes are also NOT built for wind and
> vibration loads. You might get away with towing the Kolb on its own wheel
s
> for a mile or two at slow speed, from your house to a very nearby
> airport... but longer road trips will beat the heck out of a lot of prts
> that were designed for flight loads in the air, not washboard woads and
> potholes. And those abused parts are what you are betting your life on wh
en
> you fly. It's not a "small concern".
> >
> > So in my opinion trailering is just fine, and it will save a boat load
> of money, but you MUST put in a significant amount of thought, care, and
> concern for the parts of the airplane.
> >
> > Bill Berle
> > www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> > www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Mon, 12/4/17, Robert Lobdell <robpen5557@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Folding wing question
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > Date: Monday, December 4, 2017, 1:23 PM
> >
> > Lobdell <robpen5557@gmail.com>
> >
> > WOW,,, THAT IS GREAT... I would
> > ask is the Kolbra an older model? Didn=99t see anything about it
on the
> > current site for Kolb.
> > Thanks for the input. So, Firestar is like the mid
> > level plane? Did you make a custom trailer or just
> > use a regular car hauler type thing?
> >
> > Robert Lobdell
> > Waskom, Texas
> >
> > Flying is the second greatest thrill
> > known to man. Landing is the first!
> >
> >> On Dec 4, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Ralph
> > B <rstar447@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> --> Kolb-List message posted
> > by: "Ralph B" <rstar447@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> I have owned two Kolb aircraft, a
> > Firestar and a Kolbra. I flew the Firestar for 30 years and would
> > still be flying it had I not sold it. I stored it in my garage during
> > this time and trailered it to a local private field. I folded and
> > unfolded the wings and tail everytime I flew. The folding u-joints are
> > steel and will not wear. The amount of wear is negligible, however, I
> > kept the joints greased. The u-joint bolt can be replaced and I
> > replaced it once and didn't really have to. I think it had about 350
> > wing folds over that time. One thing to be careful of is the wings are
> > extremely vulnerable near the ground when trailering because the
> > leading edge is close to the ground. I always set up the Firestar
> > alone without any help.
> > Once the wings were unhitched, I would get under and lift the wing on
> > my back to pin the lift strut in. It can be done as I did it all those
> > years. It takes about 20 minutes to set up, but many times I would get
> > interrupted by someone asking questions!
> > , !
> >> so it would take onger. The Kolbra
> > wings can fold, but I store it in a hangar and never fold them. I have
> > taken the wings off when I replaced the engine.
> >>
> >> It's a little bit of work setting
> > up the Firestar, but that is the price I paid for free hangar rent at
> > home. One advantage of having your plane at home is that I could work
> > on it easier with all the tools there. I also liked having it close by
> > because it was my baby and nobody is going to steal it or anything off
> > of it from my garage. :)
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Ralph B
> >>
> >> Kolb Kolbra 912uls
> >> N20386
> >> 550 hours
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476087#476087
> >>
> >>
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