---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/08/18: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:41 AM - Firefly windshield (Richard Pike) 2. 06:27 AM - Re: Firefly windshield (John Hauck) 3. 07:26 AM - Re: Firefly windshield (Rex Rodebush) 4. 08:29 AM - Re: Re: Firefly windshield (John Hauck) 5. 08:51 AM - Re: Firefly windshield (Jack Hart) 6. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: Firefly windshield (George Helton) 7. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: Firefly windshield (George Helton) 8. 05:36 PM - Re: Firefly windshield (Richard Pike) 9. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: Firefly windshield (George Helton) 10. 08:17 PM - Flapper on control (dan kuether) 11. 08:33 PM - Re: Flapper on control (Richard Girard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:37 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly windshield From: "Richard Pike" Flew the FF for a bit over an hour a couple nights ago, and it is becoming apparent that the little windshield is not big enough, or the right shape, getting a lot of face buffeting from the wind coming around it. If any of you have a windshield design that works really good for keeping the wind off your face, maybe you could post a picture? And if it is a big folding windscreen like Kolb is currently using, how does it secure on the right side after you close it? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479167#479167 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:00 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Firefly windshield I don't remember what your windshield looks like, Richard. Before I modified my FS windshield I had to wear a David Clark cloth helmet and goggles. Wind so bad it would blow a ball cap off and blur my vision. My nose and the space between my goggles and cloth helmet was always wind burned and peeling. I came up with the idea of a fairing on top of the windshield. First iteration was too short. Next prototype was just about right. Photo attached. When the fairing was complete I had gained a few MPH cruise. Seems the fairing kicked a lot of wind over the center section instead of the flat bulkhead behind my me. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 7:41 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly windshield --> Flew the FF for a bit over an hour a couple nights ago, and it is becoming apparent that the little windshield is not big enough, or the right shape, getting a lot of face buffeting from the wind coming around it. If any of you have a windshield design that works really good for keeping the wind off your face, maybe you could post a picture? And if it is a big folding windscreen like Kolb is currently using, how does it secure on the right side after you close it? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479167#479167 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:48 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly windshield From: "Rex Rodebush" John, Just curious, how did you attach the fairing to the existing windshield? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479170#479170 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:05 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly windshield I believe I used small .032 6061 aluminum tabs, on rivet top and bottom. Bend the tabs to meet the curve of the windshield. I probably used a cardboard template to get the shape, then went to the 1/16" Lexan. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 9:27 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly windshield John, Just curious, how did you attach the fairing to the existing windshield? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479170#479170 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:16 AM PST US From: "Jack Hart" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Firefly windshield Richard, Here is a jump to my solution for my Firefly. http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly75.html It worked quite well, in that, it deflected the wind to just above my head. You can always cut the arc taller than needed and then fly and determine where the edge of the direct airflow is passing over your head, and then, trim the arc as needed to lower the flow to just over your head. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ---------------------------------------- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 7:41 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly windshield --> Flew the FF for a bit over an hour a couple nights ago, and it is becoming apparent that the little windshield is not big enough, or the right shape, getting a lot of face buffeting from the wind coming around it. If any of you have a windshield design that works really good for keeping the wind off your face, maybe you could post a picture? And if it is a big folding windscreen like Kolb is currently using, how does it secure on the right side after you close it? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479167#479167 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:22 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly windshield Attached a picture of mine. Original Firestar. I lock the windshield down wi th a old fashion screen door (small)bolt latch. The windshield prop rod lock s into a sheet steel support on nose cone support. The windshield is .060 pecan. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Rex Rodebush wrote: > > > John, Just curious, how did you attach the fairing to the existing windsh ield? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479170#479170 > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:30 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly windshield I hate auto correct. That was suppose to say, .060 Lexan. I originally had ordered.080 Lexan. But, Aircraft Spruce sent the wrong stuf f. It worked great though. It vibrates a little while you=99re on the g round, but is very smooth inflight. George Helton 1986 Firestar, 2702 Hirth 14GDH Mesick, Michigan gdhelton@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2018, at 3:12 PM, George Helton wrote: > > Attached a picture of mine. Original Firestar. I lock the windshield down w ith a old fashion screen door (small)bolt latch. The windshield prop rod loc ks into a sheet steel support on nose cone support. > > > > > > > The windshield is .060 pecan. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 8, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Rex Rodebush wrote: >> >> >> John, Just curious, how did you attach the fairing to the existing winds hield? >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479170#479170 >> >> >> >> >> >> ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:03 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly windshield From: "Richard Pike" The screen door latch is brilliant. Thanks. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479183#479183 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:47 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly windshield Thanks, it works well. You still need a way of holding down the front of the windshield. Thats why I use the prop rod. The 3/4 aluminum channel is from the Home Depot as was the latch. George Helton 1986 Firestar, 2702 Hirth 14GDH Mesick, Michigan gdhelton@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2018, at 8:35 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > > The screen door latch is brilliant. 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