---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/22/18: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:18 PM - Balance Master (Richard Pike) 2. 06:36 PM - Re: Balance Master (John Hauck) 3. 07:06 PM - Re: Balance Master (Richard Girard) 4. 07:14 PM - Re: Balance Master (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:08 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Balance Master From: "Richard Pike" I have seen these advertised for years, no personal experience. http://balancemasters.com/aircraft.html The engine/gearbox/prop on the FF is a Rotax 277, B-box (2.58:1) and two blade 62" Ivo, and is very smooth over 5200 rpm but terrible between 5100-4000. Performance is excellent other than the vibration. I am thinking harmonics, but who knows??? Wondering if the Balance Master would be worth trying, but before I spend the $, would like to hear from somebody who has actually tried one. Thanks. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479482#479482 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:55 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Balance Master Richard P/Kolbers: My own personal thoughts only. This is from the 277 Manual: "The 277 is designed and tuned to operate at 6250 to 6500 rpm full load/full throttle." Since I have been on the List it seems you have always preferred to operate you Rotax two strokes below the power band. I looked for rpm specs for the power band, but could not find anything except the above. You may be trying to operate the engine in a zone that it was not designed for. Below 5200 rpm is really slow for a single cylinder two stroke working as a continuous duty engine. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:18 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Balance Master I have seen these advertised for years, no personal experience. http://balancemasters.com/aircraft.html The engine/gearbox/prop on the FF is a Rotax 277, B-box (2.58:1) and two blade 62" Ivo, and is very smooth over 5200 rpm but terrible between 5100-4000. Performance is excellent other than the vibration. I am thinking harmonics, but who knows??? Wondering if the Balance Master would be worth trying, but before I spend the $, would like to hear from somebody who has actually tried one. Thanks. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479482#479482 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:12 PM PST US From: Richard Girard Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Balance Master Richard, I started running Balance Masters balancers on my Harley Vibraglide. I run them on the engine and the clutch. While they're nothing much during acceleration once you reach speed you can actually feel the engine and transmission even out. I've run them on my 582 and my HKS. I believe they work and are well worth the money. My 2 cents after 27 years running them. Rick Girard On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 8:35 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > Richard P/Kolbers: > > My own personal thoughts only. > > This is from the 277 Manual: "The 277 is designed and tuned to operate a t > 6250 to 6500 rpm full load/full throttle." > > Since I have been on the List it seems you have always preferred to opera te > you Rotax two strokes below the power band. I looked for rpm specs for t he > power band, but could not find anything except the above. You may be > trying > to operate the engine in a zone that it was not designed for. Below 5200 > rpm is really slow for a single cylinder two stroke working as a continuo us > duty engine. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:18 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Balance Master > > > > I have seen these advertised for years, no personal experience. > http://balancemasters.com/aircraft.html > The engine/gearbox/prop on the FF is a Rotax 277, B-box (2.58:1) and two > blade 62" Ivo, and is very smooth over 5200 rpm but terrible between > 5100-4000. Performance is excellent other than the vibration. I am thinki ng > harmonics, but who knows??? > Wondering if the Balance Master would be worth trying, but before I spend > the $, would like to hear from somebody who has actually tried one. > Thanks. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > > Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really i s > amazing. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479482#479482 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:16 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Balance Master BTW: I have no experience with Balance Masters. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Balance Master Richard, I started running Balance Masters balancers on my Harley Vibraglide. I run them on the engine and the clutch. While they're nothing much during acceleration once you reach speed you can actually feel the engine and transmission even out. I've run them on my 582 and my HKS. I believe they work and are well worth the money. My 2 cents after 27 years running them. Rick Girard On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 8:35 PM, John Hauck wrote: Richard P/Kolbers: My own personal thoughts only. This is from the 277 Manual: "The 277 is designed and tuned to operate at 6250 to 6500 rpm full load/full throttle." Since I have been on the List it seems you have always preferred to operate you Rotax two strokes below the power band. I looked for rpm specs for the power band, but could not find anything except the above. You may be trying to operate the engine in a zone that it was not designed for. Below 5200 rpm is really slow for a single cylinder two stroke working as a continuous duty engine. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:18 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Balance Master I have seen these advertised for years, no personal experience. http://balancemasters.com/aircraft.html The engine/gearbox/prop on the FF is a Rotax 277, B-box (2.58:1) and two blade 62" Ivo, and is very smooth over 5200 rpm but terrible between 5100-4000. Performance is excellent other than the vibration. I am thinking harmonics, but who knows??? Wondering if the Balance Master would be worth trying, but before I spend the $, would like to hear from somebody who has actually tried one. Thanks. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. 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