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Thu 05/24/18


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:10 AM - Re: video (K I)
     2. 07:08 AM - Re: video (Larry Cottrell)
     3. 09:42 AM - Re: video (John Hauck)
     4. 10:56 AM - Re: video (Bill Berle)
     5. 12:01 PM - Re: video (John Hauck)
     6. 12:05 PM - Re: video (Larry Cottrell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:10:28 AM PST US
    From: K I <wrk2win4u@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: video
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    Time: 07:08:36 AM PST US
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: video
    On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:21 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > Larry it looks like some desolate country up there... beautiful and > unspoiled, but not exactly walking distance from the grocery store. What do > you have for a safety plan or emergency assistance if you wound upw ith a > mechanical problem out there in those brown hills and canyons? > > Bill, That of course is the question and it basically comes down to the risk one is willing to take. My risk has escalated since there is now no one here that knows my plans or movements. I have a Spot tracker that sends out a track every 10 minutes. I installed a link on my next door neighbors computer, but as busy as they are, it might not be even looked at until I am missed. That could take a few days. In essence my main protection comes from a feature that allows me to request help. ( that is a non emergency situation) and a button that will summon 911. All of that assumes that I will be able to utilize these buttons. Of course if I am not able to do so, then it is rather a moot point. My best protection is the condition and type of plane that I fly. The engine, the landing gear, the VG's, all are designed to give me the best possible chance of survival. Still it all comes to the willingness to accept the risk involved. In answer to a question from Roger Hankins to the late John Williamson, about what happens if something goes wrong? He said " Well then its going to hurt". Larry -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 09:42:14 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: video
    Another famous quote from our friend John Williamson. John W, as we called him, died 10 years ago tomorrow. Grateful for the short time we had to spend together flying and exploring this great country of ours. John Bickham was John B and I was John H. We were the 3 Johns. We had a lot of fun flying together and enjoyed each others' company. A group of us Kolbers became family 15 years ago at the first Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flying at Monument Valley, Utah. We hit it off and have visited at our gatherings at MV and at the Rock House every year hence. At our September 2018 get together we can also remember our buddy John W. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: video On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:21 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Larry it looks like some desolate country up there... beautiful and unspoiled, but not exactly walking distance from the grocery store. What do you have for a safety plan or emergency assistance if you wound upw ith a mechanical problem out there in those brown hills and canyons? Bill, That of course is the question and it basically comes down to the risk one is willing to take. My risk has escalated since there is now no one here that knows my plans or movements. I have a Spot tracker that sends out a track every 10 minutes. I installed a link on my next door neighbors computer, but as busy as they are, it might not be even looked at until I am missed. That could take a few days. In essence my main protection comes from a feature that allows me to request help. ( that is a non emergency situation) and a button that will summon 911. All of that assumes that I will be able to utilize these buttons. Of course if I am not able to do so, then it is rather a moot point. My best protection is the condition and type of plane that I fly. The engine, the landing gear, the VG's, all are designed to give me the best possible chance of survival. Still it all comes to the willingness to accept the risk involved. In answer to a question from Roger Hankins to the late John Williamson, about what happens if something goes wrong? He said " Well then its going to hurt". Larry -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.


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    Time: 10:56:50 AM PST US
    From: Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: video
    I understand that the upgrade to a 4 stroke engine, and VG's etc. are a big part of preventing a problem. My question was what if you simply made a good safe survivable landing out there, and found yourself un-injured and standing in one of those canyons. Looks like a long walk to anywhere. The SPOT device is a real good option, and I believe that you can "call 911" from that and they will send the Sheriff or local state troopers out to get you. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 5/24/18, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: video To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com> Date: Thursday, May 24, 2018, 7:07 AM On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:21 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Larry it looks like some desolate country up there... beautiful and unspoiled, but not exactly walking distance from the grocery store. What do you have for a safety plan or emergency assistance if you wound upw ith a mechanical problem out there in those brown hills and canyons? Bill,That of course is the question and it basically comes down to the risk one is willing to take. My risk has escalated since there is now no one here that knows my plans or movements. I have a Spot tracker that sends out a track every 10 minutes. I installed a link on my next door neighbors computer, but as busy as they are, it might not be even looked at until I am missed. That could take a few days. In essence my main protection comes from a feature that allows me to request help. ( that is a non emergency situation) and a button that will summon 911. All of that assumes that I will be able to utilize these buttons. Of course if I am not able to do so, then it is rather a moot point. My best protection is the condition and type of plane that I fly. The engine, the landing gear, the VG's, all are designed to give me the best possible chance of survival. Still it all comes to the willingness to accept the risk involved. In answer to a question from Roger Hankins to the late John Williamson, about what happens if something goes wrong? He said " Well then its going to hurt". Larry -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.


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    Time: 12:01:57 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: video
    Larry needs a new SPOT X 2-Way Satellite Messenger. Bumped into these on line the other day. Lets you text through the satellite to any cell phone, both ways. https://www.findmespot.com/spotx/lander.php I may look into one for staying in touch while I do some extensive marine cruising. I have had a PLB (Personal Locater Beacon) for years. Never had to use it, but got it in case I do need it. It hooks you up to NOAA SARSAT Rescue Center, but only to be used in dire life and death emergencies. http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/new.html Before flying in extremely desolate areas, best to get some training and experience in survival with the proper survival equipment. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: video I understand that the upgrade to a 4 stroke engine, and VG's etc. are a big part of preventing a problem. My question was what if you simply made a good safe survivable landing out there, and found yourself un-injured and standing in one of those canyons. Looks like a long walk to anywhere. The SPOT device is a real good option, and I believe that you can "call 911" from that and they will send the Sheriff or local state troopers out to get you. Bill Berle www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 5/24/18, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: video To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com> Date: Thursday, May 24, 2018, 7:07 AM On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:21 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Larry it looks like some desolate country up there... beautiful and unspoiled, but not exactly walking distance from the grocery store. What do you have for a safety plan or emergency assistance if you wound upw ith a mechanical problem out there in those brown hills and canyons? Bill, That of course is the question and it basically comes down to the risk one is willing to take. My risk has escalated since there is now no one here that knows my plans or movements. I have a Spot tracker that sends out a track every 10 minutes. I installed a link on my next door neighbors computer, but as busy as they are, it might not be even looked at until I am missed. That could take a few days. In essence my main protection comes from a feature that allows me to request help. ( that is a non emergency situation) and a button that will summon 911. All of that assumes that I will be able to utilize these buttons. Of course if I am not able to do so, then it is rather a moot point. My best protection is the condition and type of plane that I fly. The engine, the landing gear, the VG's, all are designed to give me the best possible chance of survival. Still it all comes to the willingness to accept the risk involved. In answer to a question from Roger Hankins to the late John Williamson, about what happens if something goes wrong? He said " Well then its going to hurt". Larry -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.


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    Time: 12:05:11 PM PST US
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: video
    Hell its only 25 or 30 miles back to "civilization". An easy day and half. Larry On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > I understand that the upgrade to a 4 stroke engine, and VG's etc. are a > big part of preventing a problem. My question was what if you simply made a > good safe survivable landing out there, and found yourself un-injured and > standing in one of those canyons. Looks like a long walk to anywhere. The > SPOT device is a real good option, and I believe that you can "call 911" > from that and they will send the Sheriff or local state troopers out to get > you. > > Bill Berle > www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft > www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and > for-profit entities > > -------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 5/24/18, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: video > To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Date: Thursday, May 24, 2018, 7:07 AM > > > On Thu, May 24, 2018 > at 12:21 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > > Larry it looks like some desolate country up there... > beautiful and unspoiled, but not exactly walking distance > from the grocery store. What do you have for a safety plan > or emergency assistance if you wound upw ith a mechanical > problem out there in those brown hills and canyons? > > Bill, That of course is the > question and it basically comes down to the risk one is > willing to take. My risk has escalated since there is now no > one here that knows my plans or movements. I have a Spot > tracker that sends out a track every 10 minutes. I installed > a link on my next door neighbors computer, but as busy as > they are, it might not be even looked at until I am missed. > That could take a few days. In essence my main protection > comes from a feature that allows me to request help. ( that > is a non emergency situation) and a button that will summon > 911. All of that assumes that I will be able to utilize > these buttons. Of course if I am not able to do so, then it > is rather a moot point. > My best protection is the condition and type of > plane that I fly. The engine, the landing gear, the > VG's, all are designed to give me the best possible > chance of survival. Still it all comes to the willingness to > accept the risk involved. In answer to a question from Roger > Hankins to the late John Williamson, about what happens if > something goes wrong? He said " Well then its going to > hurt". > Larry > > > -- > The > older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are > intolerant of others. > If you forward this email, or any part of > it, please remove my email address before sending. > > -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*




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