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1. 08:32 AM - Re: Placement options for CHT probe (George Helton)
2. 01:15 PM - Fuel level indicator (Rex Rodebush)
3. 01:24 PM - Re: Fuel level indicator (Russ Kinne)
4. 02:07 PM - Re: Fuel level indicator (Charlie England)
5. 02:20 PM - Re: Fuel level indicator (Richard Pike)
6. 02:34 PM - Re: Re: Fuel level indicator (Charlie England)
7. 02:47 PM - Re: Fuel level indicator (Rex Rodebush)
8. 03:19 PM - Re: Fuel level indicator (John Hauck)
9. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: Fuel level indicator (John Hauck)
10. 03:23 PM - Re: Re: Fuel level indicator (John Hauck)
11. 05:23 PM - Re: Fuel level indicator (Rex Rodebush)
12. 05:43 PM - Re: Fuel level indicator (Rex Rodebush)
13. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: Fuel level indicator (John Hauck)
14. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: Fuel level indicator (John Hauck)
15. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: Fuel level indicator (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Re: Placement options for CHT probe |
Your CHT seems very low. Do you have your EIS set for centigrade or Fahrenhe
it?
The most common cause for the disfigurement of spark-plug base rings is over
- torque of spark plugs. I was surprised to find out that my engine ( 40hp H
irth 2702 ) only requires 108 inch pounds ( yes, inch pounds) of torque and w
ith the spark-plugs seal ring installed with no anti- sieze compound.
George H.
Mesick, Michigan
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> On Jun 8, 2018, at 12:23 AM, John Fitt <jpfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Thanks for the reply. Any way to save on the wear and tear?
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>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On 6/7/2018 8:35 PM, John Fitt wrote:
>>> Greetings from Sebastopol, CA
>>> Has anybody used a cylinder head bolt ( immediately next to a spark plug
) instead of the probe ring
>>> under the plug? I am currently using the cylinder head bolts, wanting to
eliminate the wear and tear
>>> on the probe ring when checking/changing plugs. Seems that the temp. rea
dings are lower- maybe due to the heat lost near a fin?
>>> FSII 503 dcdi
>>> EIS monitor
>>> CHT runs around 100-120 deg
>>>
>>> John Fitt
>> =46rom the Lycoming world: Washer-based cht probes on the plugs always in
dicate significantly higher than probes screwed into the heads. The plug is t
he hottest spot in the cylinder.
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| Subject: | Fuel level indicator |
I have an external tube to check the fuel level (see pix). It's sometimes hard
to see the fuel in the tube. I thought of adding a small ball float in the tube
for visibility. I know J3's use a cork on the bottom of a wire for fuel level.
Don't know if it is coated or sealed with anything? Any ideas from the
group on what to use? Obviously must be compatible with fuel.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
Rex Rodebush - if you're really lucky you can find a bead from some sort of necklace
that will be liquid-proof
end not dissolve in fuel test it first!
> On Jun 8, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I have an external tube to check the fuel level (see pix). It's sometimes hard
to see the fuel in the tube. I thought of adding a small ball float in the
tube for visibility. I know J3's use a cork on the bottom of a wire for fuel
level. Don't know if it is coated or sealed with anything? Any ideas from the
group on what to use? Obviously must be compatible with fuel.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
On 6/8/2018 3:15 PM, Rex Rodebush wrote:
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> I have an external tube to check the fuel level (see pix). It's sometimes hard
to see the fuel in the tube. I thought of adding a small ball float in the
tube for visibility. I know J3's use a cork on the bottom of a wire for fuel
level. Don't know if it is coated or sealed with anything? Any ideas from the
group on what to use? Obviously must be compatible with fuel.
It's been done, so you wouldn't be the 1st. You do need to be sure it
can't hang up in the tube, block the fuel's movement in the tube, or
*escape the tube*. Depending on how the system is plumbed, you could
block the fuel vent, give yourself a false fuel level reading, or even
block fuel flow (if it escaped the tube).
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
This guy has an interesting idea - the pattern behind the tubing changes shape
depending on whether there is fuel in front of it.
http://mybearhawkpatrol.com/finish/fuelsight.html
Or you could just go with this:
http://www.univair.com/piper/piper-pa-11/view-all/u10853-000-piper-fuel-gauge-float-ball/
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
On 6/8/2018 4:20 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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> This guy has an interesting idea - the pattern behind the tubing changes shape
depending on whether there is fuel in front of it.
> http://mybearhawkpatrol.com/finish/fuelsight.html
>
> Or you could just go with this:
> http://www.univair.com/piper/piper-pa-11/view-all/u10853-000-piper-fuel-gauge-float-ball/
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> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
He did say that he used polyurethane tubing. If you look up
polyurethane's chemical resistance, benzine isn't one of them.
https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/polyurethane-chemical-resistance-d_1878.html
Hard to find gasoline without benzine.....
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
Richard, The Piper fuel ball looks perfect! I'll order one. Thanks!
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| Subject: | Fuel level indicator |
Rex R/Kolbers:
Looks like you are using yellow Tygon type fuel line with a yellow
background.
My sight gauge is clear, for the most part, with Cub yellow fabric
background. Been working good for me since day one.
john h
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 3:15 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel level indicator
I have an external tube to check the fuel level (see pix). It's sometimes
hard to see the fuel in the tube. I thought of adding a small ball float in
the tube for visibility. I know J3's use a cork on the bottom of a wire for
fuel level. Don't know if it is coated or sealed with anything? Any ideas
from the group on what to use? Obviously must be compatible with fuel.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480739#480739
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20180608_133656384_489.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
My sight gauge uses clear Tygon. Working fine since 1992.
john h
Titus, Alabama
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel level indicator
On 6/8/2018 4:20 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> This guy has an interesting idea - the pattern behind the tubing changes shape
depending on whether there is fuel in front of it.
> http://mybearhawkpatrol.com/finish/fuelsight.html
>
> Or you could just go with this:
> http://www.univair.com/piper/piper-pa-11/view-all/u10853-000-piper-fuel-gauge-float-ball/
>
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> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
He did say that he used polyurethane tubing. If you look up
polyurethane's chemical resistance, benzine isn't one of them.
https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/polyurethane-chemical-resistance-d_1878.html
Hard to find gasoline without benzine.....
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
Order two for a pair of balls. ;-)
john h
Titus, Alabama
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 4:47 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel level indicator
Richard, The Piper fuel ball looks perfect! I'll order one. Thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
John,
Wasn't aware that the tygon came in clear. The only one I could find was yellow
from McMaster-Carr. I'll see if I can find the clear version. BTW, can't afford
two balls, at my age one will be enough!
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
John,
The only Tygon that I can find that is recommended for gas is the yellow version.
Do you change your gas gage line every few years or so? Do you know what
type of Tygon you use?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
The clear food grade should be fine. It is PVC.
john
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 7:43 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel level indicator
John,
The only Tygon that I can find that is recommended for gas is the yellow
version. Do you change your gas gage line every few years or so? Do you
know what type of Tygon you use?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
Amazon is a wonderful thing. If you don't believe me, ask Larry Cottrell.
Do a Google search or go to this page to find all kinds and colors of Tygon:
https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Tubing-Tygon/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A16414401
%2Cp_4%3ATygon
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 7:24 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel level indicator
John,
Wasn't aware that the tygon came in clear. The only one I could find was
yellow from McMaster-Carr. I'll see if I can find the clear version. BTW,
can't afford two balls, at my age one will be enough!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480749#480749
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel level indicator |
Tygon (capitalized)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tygon_tubing
On 6/8/2018 8:58 PM, John Hauck wrote:
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> Amazon is a wonderful thing. If you don't believe me, ask Larry Cottrell.
>
> Do a Google search or go to this page to find all kinds and colors of Tygon:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Tubing-Tygon/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A16414401
> %2Cp_4%3ATygon
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 7:24 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel level indicator
>
>
> John,
>
> Wasn't aware that the tygon came in clear. The only one I could find was
> yellow from McMaster-Carr. I'll see if I can find the clear version. BTW,
> can't afford two balls, at my age one will be enough!
>
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