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1. 03:07 AM - Re: Re: gear legs (George Helton)
2. 04:39 AM - Re: gear legs (Gary Aman)
3. 05:31 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/05/18 (Ted Cowan)
4. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Denny Baber)
5. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: Firestar/HKS First FlightRe: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Denny Baber)
6. 08:39 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Richard Pike)
7. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/05/18 (John Hauck)
8. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Richard Girard)
9. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: Firestar/HKS First FlightRe: Firestar/HKS First Flight (John Hauck)
10. 12:12 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Rex Rodebush)
11. 09:42 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Bill Berle)
12. 10:20 PM - If any one has dealt with (Nick Cassara)
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Are those new legs? And what is their diameter where they enter the cage. The original
Firestar used 1, but were later converted to 1.125 by pulling the aluminum
sleeves out of the cage.
George H.
Firestar, FS100, 2702 Hirth
Mesick, Michigan
gdhelton@gmail.com
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> On Aug 7, 2018, at 11:17 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> Also, if anyone is in need of this, I have a set of the original aluminum Firestar
gear legs. Might be useful for someone trying to keep a Firestar (or perhaps)
Firefly as light as possible.
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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> On Tue, 8/7/18, Vern <verdixbo@sisqtel.net> wrote:
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> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: gear legs
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2018, 7:59 PM
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> <verdixbo@sisqtel.net>
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> Do your gear legs fit a Mark 3 classic.
> I might be interested if they do.
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> Thanks Vern
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Russ, are those legs the tall tube or the short solid spring steel ones like rRick
and I have
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> On Aug 6, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Russ Kinne <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I have a set of steel legs for the Mark 3, brand new, in factory
> box, never unpacked. Cant use them Make me a (good) offer!
> Russ Kinne
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/05/18 |
If you want a yank and bank a kolb, try the sling shot. High landing gear. Short
fuse and only 22 feet of wing. Couple all that with a rotax 912/80 hp engine
and you have a tiger by the tail. No heavy ails here. If you look left you
go left. Very little pressure on stick. I love the plane. Take off in
three hundred feet or less and can land on a dime. Not for a average pilot.
If you know how to use a rudder and want to cruise 95 mph on 3.2 gph this is
your toy. Been flying it for ten years and over eight hundred hours. If you
set it up right (ask me and I will tell you how) it is a dream to fly. Flew
original firestar over a thousand hrs. Great plane! Miss ole White Lightning
but love my Grez'd Lightnin better. Can outrun the Hawk! Ted Cowan slingshot
912 zoom zoom
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> 1. 12:13 AM - Firestar/HKS First Flight (Bill Berle)
> 2. 04:28 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Richard Pike)
> 3. 04:54 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (George Helton)
> 4. 07:31 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (John Hauck)
> 5. 07:31 AM - Re: Bass Lake (TheWanderingWench)
> 6. 07:54 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Gary Aman)
> 7. 09:17 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Rex Rodebush)
> 8. 11:29 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Bill Berle)
> 9. 11:47 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (west1m)
> 10. 02:30 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (George Helton)
> 11. 03:15 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (lcottrell1020)
> 12. 05:13 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Stuart Harner)
> 13. 08:18 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Richard Pike)
>
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> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:13:31 AM PST US
> From: Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar/HKS First Flight
>
>
> Finally after two years of screwing around and getting the HKS engine systems
installed
> and working, today was initial flight test day.
>
> I did two early morning high speed taxi runs down the runway, then five "crow
hops"
> from 5 feet to 50 feet AGL down the runway. Early morning before the tower
> opened (none of the radio equipment I tried to use would work) , then later
> in the evening (after the tower closed at 8PM local) one 10 minute flight doing
> ovals around the runway at 500 AGL.
>
> Elevator and rudder light on the controls, ailerons heavy. This will need to
be
> addressed one way or another.
>
> Required 2 or 3 pounds of forward pressure on the stick for level flight.
>
> Indicated airspeed 50-55 MPH, no idea if this is accurate or not.
>
> Takeoff very short, did not attempt minimum speed landings yet.
>
> Ground steering sensitive but effective.
>
> "Deck Angle" in flight was much different than I had imagined. In order to maintain
> level flight the instrument panel was way way down low below the horizon.
> Lots lower than where I thought it should be. That is just my inexperience with
> the Kolb and UL style aircraft in general.
>
> HKS engine ran well once warmed up. No sagging or "wandering" in flight.
>
> Maximum RPM in flight was 5750, I retarded the throttle to keep it below max
continuous
> RPM (5800). Might be adding one degree of pitch to the prop blades.
>
> My biggest mistake was due to inexperience with this type of aircraft.... when
> I was at 500 AGL it looked to me like I was at 1500 AGL. I thought the altimeter
> was wrong, but my ground crew and friends said "yep, looked like you were at
> about 500 feet." I was shocked, I thought I was much higher than that!
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 8/4/18, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar/HKS Engine Test Run
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Saturday, August 4, 2018, 2:41 PM
>
> My neighbor, who did
> the covering on my Twinstar, used a similar technique, but
> it allows rotating the wing. We pinched the end of a piece
> of water pipe (~1 foot long) so it would slide over that
> attach point, and bolted it. It obviously has a bit of slop
> in the fit, but won't come off. The pipe rests in a
> 'saddle' made with 2 long 2x4s with a shorter one
> between. Height of the center one enough to swing the
> leading edge without hitting the floor. Wing tip on a padded
> saw horse (or table, etc, whatever works for you). Obviously
> requires a helper to move the saw horse while you rotate the
> wing. When you're ready to rib stitch with a helper,
> something lower like a milk crate would be needed.
> Something I wish I'd done while it was
> uncovered is to clip the wing back to the end of the main
> spar. If the wing is clipped, you can just insert something
> in the open end of the spar to support the tip. The end
> could be closed with a plate after covering. I may yet clip
> it. One side of my hangar has a 30' opening, and I could
> keep it on that side instead of the main hangar.
> Charlie
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at
> 3:37 PM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net>
> wrote:
> "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
>
>
> Sorry I don't have what you are asking for, but here is
> the crude way that I did the MKIII: I have a steel support
> pole in the middle of the garage that supports the upstairs
> floor, and I put a extra long bolt through the rear spar
> pivot point, band clamped it to that pole, and then set the
> leading edge on two milk crates. One crate near the root and
> one near the tip. Worked OK. Not great, but OK.
>
>
> Had to put it on sawhorses to do the leading edge top and
> bottom.
>
>
> --------
>
> Richard Pike
>
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:28:35 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight
> From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
>
>
> Congratulations!
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482067#482067
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:54:43 AM PST US
> From: George Helton
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight |
*The induce drag would be an order of magnitude greater with ailerons
changing pitch trim than at the tail. So why would you fly in cruse with
your ailerons drooped?*
On the Challenger the seating is tandem and a passenger really really
affected the trim. The ailerons would go up and down together and are
called flaperons (flaps and ailerons). They are operated with a crank and I
marked mine for just me and also for me and my wife. I would set the
flaperons before take-off and would not have to re-trim in flight. I took
off once without changing them for the weight shift and decided to make
them operate while I flew. I put a R/C servo on them to make them electric
but I ended up only setting them before I took off after that one mistake.
Some of the guys would use them as air brakes on landing when we would go
into short farmers fields but quit using them after we learned about each
strip. It was still cool to have them.
Respectfully,
Dennis Baber
Cape Coral, Fl
baberdk@gmail.com
Stay Curious
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Subject: | Re: Firestar/HKS First FlightRe: Firestar/HKS First Flight |
My understanding is that spades are for aileron flutter.
Respectfully,
Dennis Baber
Cape Coral, Fl
baberdk@gmail.com
305-814-7218
Stay Curious
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Subject: | Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight |
A few thoughts on drooping the flaps/ailerons: when I redid my cabin top, I relocated
the flap mechanism down a few inches, and redid the linkage in the process.
You can see in the picture that I have 3 holes close together for the area
of normal flight. I use the bottom one for takeoff because it droops the ailerons
a couple of degrees, barely enough to affect the trim. Doesn't seem to make
much difference one way or another. The middle one (of the top 3) is for normal
cruise. In this hole the flaps and ailerons are at the same angle. The top
one is for normal cruise when carrying a passenger. Since all of the pilot/passenger
weight in a MKIII is ahead of the CG, reflexing the flaps a couple of
degrees means you don't need to use as much elevator trim when carrying a passenger.
As John said, drooping or reflexing the ailerons is done in minute amounts. A little
bit goes a long way, and the same is true for the flaps: moving the flap
lever between these three top holes makes very little difference. Moving the
flap lever down to the lower ones requires progressively a lot more up elevator
trim to compensate.
The link gives a lot more details http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/pg3.htm
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/05/18 |
Ted C/Kolbers:
IIRC there was a 582 on your new Slingshot. I flew over to your place to
fly with you to Don and Ruby Wilson's. I can't remember. Would have to
look at my log book for sure. Your zoom zoom couldn't keep up with big fat
Miss P'fer flying 80-85 mph. Hopefully, it does a little better with the
912. After all...my MKIII is twice as big and much heavier than your little
SS. ;-)
10 years? Didn't realize it had been that long.
Yep...80-85 is my normal cruise burning 5 gph with the 912ULS. The 912UL
burned 4 gph flying the same speed. Go figure???
I couldn't keep up with John Williamson's Kolbra after he took the Jabiru
off and mounted the 912ULS. Before that I could outrun him.
Guess my saving grace is Miss P'fers ability to haul everything I can think
of to stuff in her for long cross country flights. Besides 150 lbs of fuel,
she performs well loaded down with all my other stuff.
I know you are enjoying your SS. I used to fly the first SS for Homer Kolb.
It was powered with a 582. It was impressive and a lot of fun to fly. New
Kolb Aircraft had Bruce Chesnut's SS that I flew for them, powered with a
912ULS, 100hp. The SS's fly much like the FF, only a Hell of a lot faster.
What does your SS top out at, true airspeed? John Williamson did a speed
flight down the black line on Bonneville Salt Flats the first time we landed
there. He clocked 112 mph. Not bad for a big ultralight. RIP brother.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Cowan
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 7:19 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/05/18
If you want a yank and bank a kolb, try the sling shot. High landing gear.
Short fuse and only 22 feet of wing. Couple all that with a rotax 912/80 hp
engine and you have a tiger by the tail. No heavy ails here. If you look
left you go left. Very little pressure on stick. I love the plane. Take
off in three hundred feet or less and can land on a dime. Not for a average
pilot. If you know how to use a rudder and want to cruise 95 mph on 3.2
gph this is your toy. Been flying it for ten years and over eight hundred
hours. If you set it up right (ask me and I will tell you how) it is a
dream to fly. Flew original firestar over a thousand hrs. Great plane!
Miss ole White Lightning but love my Grez'd Lightnin better. Can outrun the
Hawk! Ted Cowan slingshot 912 zoom zoom
Sent from my iPhone
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> 1. 12:13 AM - Firestar/HKS First Flight (Bill Berle)
> 2. 04:28 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Richard Pike)
> 3. 04:54 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (George Helton)
> 4. 07:31 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (John Hauck)
> 5. 07:31 AM - Re: Bass Lake (TheWanderingWench)
> 6. 07:54 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Gary Aman)
> 7. 09:17 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Rex Rodebush)
> 8. 11:29 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Bill Berle)
> 9. 11:47 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (west1m)
> 10. 02:30 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (George Helton)
> 11. 03:15 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (lcottrell1020)
> 12. 05:13 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Stuart Harner)
> 13. 08:18 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Richard Pike)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:13:31 AM PST US
> From: Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar/HKS First Flight
>
>
> Finally after two years of screwing around and getting the HKS engine
systems installed
> and working, today was initial flight test day.
>
> I did two early morning high speed taxi runs down the runway, then five
"crow hops"
> from 5 feet to 50 feet AGL down the runway. Early morning before the tower
> opened (none of the radio equipment I tried to use would work) , then
later
> in the evening (after the tower closed at 8PM local) one 10 minute flight
doing
> ovals around the runway at 500 AGL.
>
> Elevator and rudder light on the controls, ailerons heavy. This will need
to be
> addressed one way or another.
>
> Required 2 or 3 pounds of forward pressure on the stick for level flight.
>
> Indicated airspeed 50-55 MPH, no idea if this is accurate or not.
>
> Takeoff very short, did not attempt minimum speed landings yet.
>
> Ground steering sensitive but effective.
>
> "Deck Angle" in flight was much different than I had imagined. In order to
maintain
> level flight the instrument panel was way way down low below the horizon.
> Lots lower than where I thought it should be. That is just my inexperience
with
> the Kolb and UL style aircraft in general.
>
> HKS engine ran well once warmed up. No sagging or "wandering" in flight.
>
> Maximum RPM in flight was 5750, I retarded the throttle to keep it below
max continuous
> RPM (5800). Might be adding one degree of pitch to the prop blades.
>
> My biggest mistake was due to inexperience with this type of aircraft....
when
> I was at 500 AGL it looked to me like I was at 1500 AGL. I thought the
altimeter
> was wrong, but my ground crew and friends said "yep, looked like you were
at
> about 500 feet." I was shocked, I thought I was much higher than that!
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 8/4/18, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar/HKS Engine Test Run
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Saturday, August 4, 2018, 2:41 PM
>
> My neighbor, who did
> the covering on my Twinstar, used a similar technique, but
> it allows rotating the wing. We pinched the end of a piece
> of water pipe (~1 foot long) so it would slide over that
> attach point, and bolted it. It obviously has a bit of slop
> in the fit, but won't come off. The pipe rests in a
> 'saddle' made with 2 long 2x4s with a shorter one
> between. Height of the center one enough to swing the
> leading edge without hitting the floor. Wing tip on a padded
> saw horse (or table, etc, whatever works for you). Obviously
> requires a helper to move the saw horse while you rotate the
> wing. When you're ready to rib stitch with a helper,
> something lower like a milk crate would be needed.
> Something I wish I'd done while it was
> uncovered is to clip the wing back to the end of the main
> spar. If the wing is clipped, you can just insert something
> in the open end of the spar to support the tip. The end
> could be closed with a plate after covering. I may yet clip
> it. One side of my hangar has a 30' opening, and I could
> keep it on that side instead of the main hangar.
> Charlie
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at
> 3:37 PM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net>
> wrote:
> "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
>
>
> Sorry I don't have what you are asking for, but here is
> the crude way that I did the MKIII: I have a steel support
> pole in the middle of the garage that supports the upstairs
> floor, and I put a extra long bolt through the rear spar
> pivot point, band clamped it to that pole, and then set the
> leading edge on two milk crates. One crate near the root and
> one near the tip. Worked OK. Not great, but OK.
>
>
> Had to put it on sawhorses to do the leading edge top and
> bottom.
>
>
> --------
>
> Richard Pike
>
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
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>
>
> Time: 04:28:35 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight
> From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
>
>
> Congratulations!
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is
amazing.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482067#482067
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:54:43 AM PST US
> From: George Helton
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight |
Another great idea to steal! :-}
Thanks Richard.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net>
wrote:
>
>
> A few thoughts on drooping the flaps/ailerons: when I redid my cabin top,
> I relocated the flap mechanism down a few inches, and redid the linkage i
n
> the process. You can see in the picture that I have 3 holes close togethe
r
> for the area of normal flight. I use the bottom one for takeoff because i
t
> droops the ailerons a couple of degrees, barely enough to affect the trim
.
> Doesn't seem to make much difference one way or another. The middle one (
of
> the top 3) is for normal cruise. In this hole the flaps and ailerons are
at
> the same angle. The top one is for normal cruise when carrying a passenge
r.
> Since all of the pilot/passenger weight in a MKIII is ahead of the CG,
> reflexing the flaps a couple of degrees means you don't need to use as mu
ch
> elevator trim when carrying a passenger.
>
> As John said, drooping or reflexing the ailerons is done in minute
> amounts. A little bit goes a long way, and the same is true for the flaps
:
> moving the flap lever between these three top holes makes very little
> difference. Moving the flap lever down to the lower ones requires
> progressively a lot more up elevator trim to compensate.
>
> The link gives a lot more details http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/pg3.htm
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really i
s
> amazing.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482186#482186
>
>
> Attachments:
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>
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Subject: | Re: Firestar/HKS First FlightRe: Firestar/HKS First Flight |
Aileron counter balance weights to prevent aileron flutter.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denny Baber
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar/HKS First FlightRe: Firestar/HKS
First Flight
My understanding is that spades are for aileron flutter.
Respectfully,
Dennis Baber
Cape Coral, Fl
baberdk@gmail.com
305-814-7218
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Subject: | Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight |
It was a great idea and I confess I stole it from Richard a few years ago also.
I did it a little differently with a spring loaded pin in a hole to set the
flaps. see pictures.
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Subject: | Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight |
Spades will add weight forward of the hinge line, which is usually working AGAINST
flutter.
Bill Berle
On Wed, 8/8/18, Denny Baber <baberdk@gmail.com> wrote:
My understanding is that spades are for aileron flutter.
Respectfully,
Dennis BaberCape Coral,
Flbaberdk@gmail.com305-814-7218
Stay
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Subject: | If any one has dealt with |
Kolbers,
If anyone has dealt with Uflyit.com <http://uflyit.com/>, could you
please contact me off the list.
Thank you,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
nickc@mtaonline.net
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