---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 08/31/18: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:20 AM - Re: First short XC Flight and Slow Cruise Speed (Jerry-TS-MkII) 2. 03:19 AM - Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project (George Helton) 3. 04:07 AM - Re: ORATEX (jim b) 4. 05:48 AM - Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project (Richard Pike) 5. 08:53 AM - Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project (Rex Rodebush) 6. 08:07 PM - Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project (Jerry-TS-MkII) 7. 08:26 PM - Re: Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project (Larry Cottrell) 8. 10:56 PM - Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project (Jerry-TS-MkII) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:28 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: First short XC Flight and Slow Cruise Speed From: "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> The engine has 2.58 gear set (8 bolts on the cover), oriented up. The carbs are above the cylinders. Jerry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482819#482819 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:14 AM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Re-Configure Project No crow here Bill. I would just like for you to be safe and have some fun. It is and experiment. George H. Firestar Mesick, Michigan gdhelton@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2018, at 2:33 AM, Bill Berle wrote: > > > Kolbers, I made a decision today to go ahead with most of the collective advice and consensus of the Kolb List, and I began disassembling the oil system in order to re-configure it similar to Larry C's HKS Firestar. > > After speaking with John H, Larry C, and e-mail corrrespondence with several others, plus all the public discussion, I must admit that the changes I made (oil cooler venting above the wing, perhaps the exhaust pipes blocking the propeller in-flow) are very likely the cause of my aircraft's poor performance. > > So I am going to re-mount the oil cooler down lower on the cage away from the wing, and I'm going to move the oil tank lower underneath the wing, and these two things will allow me to make a full airfoil-shaped center gap seal/cover like Larry's (and most of the Rotax Kolbs). > > I am also going to go back and try to install the original HKS exhaust system and muffler, to have the exhaust pipes out of the airflow path to the propeller. This will require me to make a new engine mount plate, moving the engine forward several inches. That of course will help the CG move a little forward, even though the aircraft is safely flyable at its current CG. > > I have no doubt the Kolb List will thoroughly enjoy watching me eat this much crow... :) :) :) > > I'll will probably be down for a month or two in order to get all this done correctly. > > Bill Berle > www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft > www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities > > -------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 8/30/18, Jerry-TS-MkII <12flybellaire@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: First short XC Flight and Slow Cruise Speed > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, August 30, 2018, 12:38 PM > > "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> > > Well that info may save me from asking > them about engines which they paid to have returned to the > factory. I hadn't done my quota of stupid things that > day, when I bought it. Let me know if your carbs fall > off and you need two new ones. I'd just like to find > out what, if any of the components are the same as the new > 700s. It might help me recover some of my small > investment. Maybe I'll remove the PRU and bolt it onto a GEO > metro, or a Subie conversion? I did see a choice > engine at Oshkosh. direct drive, with Harley cylinders on a > half VW case: > http://www.vwaircraftengineconversions.com/the-javelina-twin-cylinder-95-hp-12-vw-aircraft-engine-conversion.html > > more info at: (starting at 6:24 or so > into the video).. first half good too! > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdubY_EAi1w > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482811#482811 > > > > > > > The Kolb-List Email Forum - > Navigator to browse > List Un/Subscription, > 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > via the Web Forums! > - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > Email List Wiki! > - List Contribution Web Site - > support! > > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:06 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: ORATEX From: "jim b" Rex Thanks. I finally used the right search engine. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482823#482823 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:04 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project From: "Richard Pike" All we want is for you to have a good flying airplane that you enjoy. Crow? Don't even go there, because some of us will have to go with you. Because we originally put a free air 277 on our Firefly instead of a fan cooled, we created a number of problems for ourselves. Since Rotax hasn't made any 277 parts in probably 25 years, we had to buy two more engines to get the right parts to make one good one. The fan cooled engine has a completely different and much larger mag end crankcase, so we had to make up new taller motor mounts, finally got the engine mounted yesterday. Started to wire it up, and discovered why the radio wouldn't work right, so now we build a new wiring harness. Then I need to redo the pulley setup for the recoil starter, & still haven't started repairing the broken nose bowl. Need to better shock mount the panel, and make a new, bigger windshield, the old one was too small anyway. Consequently, it will probably be November before I'm allowed to wear this shirt... -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kolb Firefly Part 103 legal (Today we hang the engine and wire it all back up) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482824#482824 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/busy_843.jpeg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:19 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project From: "Rex Rodebush" Don't worry about any crow. I think everybody on this list has had to rework something on their plane at one time or another. I modified at least half a dozen things (or more) on mine. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482825#482825 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:35 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project From: "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> Bill... It's too bad that you are facing some rework, after already spending a lot of effort.. but like everyone else on here, I'd agree with your decision to make the changes. And there is no one on here throwing stones. Your topics generated a lot of thought and good idea sharing along the way. And that may save the next guy from having a similar situation. Will be just as interesting to know how much those changes improve the performance! All good, Jerry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482834#482834 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:44 PM PST US From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project Jerry, I've Liked every thing that you have contributed to this subject. You are also right that there is no castigation in every ones attempt to help Bill. Every one would just like for him to enjoy his project as much as we do ours. I understand and believe that this list is a bit different from most of them in that there is no "guru" on this one, just a bunch of guy's that are willing to help. Larry On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 9:09 PM Jerry-TS-MkII <12flybellaire@gmail.com> wrote: > > Bill... > It's too bad that you are facing some rework, after already spending a lot > of effort.. but like everyone else on here, I'd agree with your decision to > make the changes. And there is no one on here throwing stones. Your > topics generated a lot of thought and good idea sharing along the way. And > that may save the next guy from having a similar situation. Will be just > as interesting to know how much those changes improve the performance! > > All good, > Jerry > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482834#482834 > > -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:56:35 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar Re-Configure Project From: "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> Larry, Thanks for the compliment. But clearly everyone qualifies for their contributions as well. Whether it's a R/C club, or EAA group, or this forum.. there is typically some hierarchy, of those who have been around for a long time, or who post a lot. Looking at the index numbers, there are a lot more readers than those who post replies, but that shows how much interest is generated.. sharing ideas. Before long, I might need to ask how much dust a Kolb can collect before the gear legs break, but hopefully I'll rectify that soon, and move forward more quickly as I continue to revive a old Twinstar. I'm the newbie to Kolbs.. but there is some truth that airplanes are airplanes. It really has been a wonderful life time of working on, and building lots of projects, including various planes. So I've always felt that well learned lessons should be shared. DIY?? "Well.. first you get 2 gallons of gumption..." LOL Or that other famous phrase: The first 90% of a project takes 90% of the time. The last 10% takes ANOTHER 90% of the time! Thanks for all of your beautiful videos!! Jerry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482838#482838 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.