---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/30/18: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:46 AM - Re: Re: My Firestar 2 Build (mojavjoe) 2. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: My Firestar 2 Build (John Hauck) 3. 11:46 AM - Re: My Firestar 2 Build (loctupdave) 4. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: My Firestar 2 Build (Charlie England) 5. 01:49 PM - Re: Re: My Firestar 2 Build (George Helton) 6. 02:10 PM - Re: My Firestar 2 Build (loctupdave) 7. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: My Firestar 2 Build (Charlie England) 8. 02:56 PM - Re: My Firestar 2 Build (loctupdave) 9. 03:22 PM - Re: My Firestar 2 Build (Jerry-TS-MkII) 10. 03:55 PM - Re: My Firestar 2 Build (loctupdave) 11. 08:44 PM - Re: My Firestar 2 Build (Jerry-TS-MkII) 12. 08:55 PM - Re: Re: My Firestar 2 Build (George Helton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:36 AM PST US From: mojavjoe Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build I agree with Bill. Mine was marked FS001 and I'm sure it was not the first Firestar. Joe > > > > Thank you for the replies. I > checked the motor mount tube, nothing there. I guess I will > make my own serial number. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484080#484080 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Kolb-List Email Forum - > Navigator to browse > List Un/Subscription, > 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > via the Web Forums! > - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > Email List Wiki! > - List Contribution Web Site - > support! > > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:48 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build To the best of my knowledge the first Fire Star is in Homer Kolb's hanger in Springville, PA. I watched Dick Rahill crash it at Oshkosh in 1989. Homer completely rebuilt the first Firestar not long before he passed. Got to fly it at Sun and Fun 1986 or 87, then again at the Kolb Farm in 2008 (?). Was powered by a Rotax 377 originally, replaced with a 503 DC when rebuilt. Also had VGs. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mojavjoe Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 7:46 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build I agree with Bill. Mine was marked FS001 and I'm sure it was not the first Firestar. Joe ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:46:24 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build From: "loctupdave" The previous owner did not have much in the way of information. The plans I do have I bought from Kolb. Like I said. it looks like I will have to make my own serial number. gdhelton(at)gmail.com wrote: > If you can find original plans, it the plans number. Like mine is FS100. The 100th original Firestar. > George H. > Firestar, FS100, 2702 Hirth > 14GDH > Mesick , Michigan > gdhelton@gmail.com > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Oct 29, 2018, at 6:41 PM, loctupdave wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you for the replies. I checked the motor mount tube, nothing there. I guess I will make my own serial number. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484080#484080 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484096#484096 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build From: Charlie England Is this a previously registered a/c? If so, the serial number in the eyes of the FAA is on the registration paperwork. There is no requirement that it match Kolb's number (the person who registered it could have called it a Blowhard serial number 10,000), but there *is* a requirement that your data plate matches the registration. On 10/30/2018 1:46 PM, loctupdave wrote: > > The previous owner did not have much in the way > of information. The plans I do have I bought from Kolb. Like I said. it looks like I will have to make my own serial number. > > > gdhelton(at)gmail.com wrote: >> If you can find original plans, it the plans number. Like mine is FS100. The 100th original Firestar. >> George H. >> Firestar, FS100, 2702 Hirth >> 14GDH >> Mesick , Michigan >> gdhelton@gmail.com >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >>> On Oct 29, 2018, at 6:41 PM, loctupdave wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you for the replies. I checked the motor mount tube, nothing there. I guess I will make my own serial number. >>> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:49:14 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build Yup, sounds like you get to be creative. George H. Firestar Mesick, Michigan Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2018, at 2:46 PM, loctupdave wrote: > > > The previous owner did not have much in the way > of information. The plans I do have I bought from Kolb. Like I said. it looks like I will have to make my own serial number. > > > gdhelton(at)gmail.com wrote: >> If you can find original plans, it the plans number. Like mine is FS100. The 100th original Firestar. >> George H. >> Firestar, FS100, 2702 Hirth >> 14GDH >> Mesick , Michigan >> gdhelton@gmail.com >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >>> On Oct 29, 2018, at 6:41 PM, loctupdave wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you for the replies. I checked the motor mount tube, nothing there. I guess I will make my own serial number. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484080#484080 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484096#484096 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:32 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build From: "loctupdave" With what I have for information this plane has never had a N number. There is no data plate or evidence of a N number removal. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484104#484104 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:34 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:12 PM loctupdave wrote: > > With what I have for information this plane has never had a N number. > There is no data plate or evidence of a N number removal. > > If it's never been registered, and you intend to register it as a > homebuilt, then you get to pick the model name and serial number when you > register it. Be prepared to show some kind of chain of ownership of the > 'project', or a document signed by you stating that it was built from > 'parts', meaning scratch built. You'll have to do the 51% checklist, etc. If you intend to fly it as an ultralite, all the above is moot. Charlie > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:46 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build From: "loctupdave" It would be wonderful knowing the year it was made. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484106#484106 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:17 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build From: "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> RE: SN.. Was this ever registered before? Or was it flown as a U/L? If it's ever been registered, the FAA should have a SN associated with the plane/paperwork. :-) Jerry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484107#484107 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:55:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build From: "loctupdave" I cannot see anything on the plane or information given that would suggest it has been restored by the FAA. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484108#484108 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:11 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build From: "Jerry-TS-MkII" <12flybellaire@gmail.com> If you know the original builder.. Kolb might have records of who bought kits or plans? I'm not sure of when they changed ownership.. so that could be a problem, but might be worth a try. It may not be an issue, if it's never been registered. I know with a U/L transition to ELSA, it was "pick a number" and put it on the airplane and related documents. Jerry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484110#484110 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:03 PM PST US From: George Helton Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: My Firestar 2 Build If youre going to fly it as a ultralight, its a non-issue except I.D. purposes anyway. George H. Firestar 14GDH Mesick, Michigan Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2018, at 11:43 PM, Jerry-TS-MkII <12flybellaire@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If you know the original builder.. Kolb might have records of who bought kits or plans? I'm not sure of when they changed ownership.. so that could be a problem, but might be worth a try. It may not be an issue, if it's never been registered. I know with a U/L transition to ELSA, it was "pick a number" and put it on the airplane and related documents. > > Jerry > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484110#484110 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.