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1. 02:05 PM - Re: Firefly / Firestar windshield (Richard Pike)
2. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: Firefly / Firestar windshield (Larry Cottrell)
3. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: Firefly / Firestar windshield (John Hauck)
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly / Firestar windshield |
It's done! And now that it's done, I would like to thank the guys on this list
for all their good ideas. I especially like John Hauck's windshield shape and
size, and tried to get as close to it as possible but still use just one piece
of Lexan.
I especially liked Gene Zimmerman's folding arrangement, because I too was having
a terrible time getting in and out w/o bashing the windshield with my feet.
OTOH, Gene's has a full frame and we are trying to keep the weight down and keep
it Part 103 legal. With no frame, it was way too flexible.
So here is the result, pivots in the front, uses minimal hardware, just enough
to keep it in shape. When you pull it down into flight position, a pin fits through
the aft original windshield mounting tab on the fuselage frame, one on each
side.
Once the pins are in place, the lever swings down to keep them from pulling back
out. Locks everything in place.
Had to modify the fairing with big mounting pads to make the windshield pivot points
parallel with the side of the fairing, otherwise the windshield bulged out
with a big gap along the sides.
Now I just need the weather to warm up and calm down, and we can try out the new
windshield and the new engine - we also swapped out the free air 277 for a fan
cooled one. Assuming that everything works OK, then we modify the 277 to dual
ignition.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kolb Firefly Part 103 legal (Redoing the Firefly windshield)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly / Firestar windshield |
It looks pretty good, and I congratulate you on your design thinking. I had
a version of that type of wind screen when I first got my plane. It might
have been a bit shorter but the wind always hit me just about on my upper
lip. If a fella was wearing a helmet it was no problem, but when I
installed a radio I was too cheap to buy a helmet with sound, so I did
without. You had to stick ear plugs in each nostril to keep the snot from
running up my glasses. :-) A bit hard to clean.
Larry
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 3:06 PM Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net>
wrote:
>
> It's done! And now that it's done, I would like to thank the guys on this
> list for all their good ideas. I especially like John Hauck's windshield
> shape and size, and tried to get as close to it as possible but still use
> just one piece of Lexan.
>
> I especially liked Gene Zimmerman's folding arrangement, because I too was
> having a terrible time getting in and out w/o bashing the windshield with
> my feet. OTOH, Gene's has a full frame and we are trying to keep the weight
> down and keep it Part 103 legal. With no frame, it was way too flexible.
>
> So here is the result, pivots in the front, uses minimal hardware, just
> enough to keep it in shape. When you pull it down into flight position, a
> pin fits through the aft original windshield mounting tab on the fuselage
> frame, one on each side.
>
> Once the pins are in place, the lever swings down to keep them from
> pulling back out. Locks everything in place.
>
> Had to modify the fairing with big mounting pads to make the windshield
> pivot points parallel with the side of the fairing, otherwise the
> windshield bulged out with a big gap along the sides.
>
> Now I just need the weather to warm up and calm down, and we can try out
> the new windshield and the new engine - we also swapped out the free air
> 277 for a fan cooled one. Assuming that everything works OK, then we modify
> the 277 to dual ignition.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kolb Firefly Part 103 legal (Redoing the Firefly windshield)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is
> amazing.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486857#486857
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly / Firestar windshield |
How gross! ;-)
I did design mine a little different. There's 4130 bow with tabs to
mount the instrument panel and fairing. The new brace moved the
instrument panel rearward about 18 inches or more closer to the pilot.
That full bow was necessary to keep the air stream from trying to
flatten the windshield. I kept the same angle as the nose pod to make
it a little more aerodynamic. The small 5" fairing came after a flight
to the Flight Farm in Monterey, NY, 1988. I had to wear a David Clark
cloth helmet and wear goggles because the wind stream hit me right in
the face. I eventually lost all the hide off my nose and between the
top of the goggles and the bottom rim of the helmet from sun and wind
burn. In 1989, I flew the FS back to the Flight Farm and OSH with the
fairing. No sweat on losing hide. I wore a baseball cap and my sun
glasses. Much nicer and got a couple more mph cruise speed out of the
447. The new fairing kicked the wind right over the top of the wing.
I also included a photo of Homer's windshield on the 1985 Oshkosh Grand
Champion UL he rebuilt after many years. Dick Rahill crashed it at OSH
1989. Stalled making a tight steep descending turn on final. I have a
snap shot of him crashing. I took it while sitting in the cockpit of my
FS at the approach end of the airstrip.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Cottrell
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly / Firestar windshield
It looks pretty good, and I congratulate you on your design thinking. I
had a version of that type of wind screen when I first got my plane. It
might have been a bit shorter but the wind always hit me just about on
my upper lip. If a fella was wearing a helmet it was no problem, but
when I installed a radio I was too cheap to buy a helmet with sound, so
I did without. You had to stick ear plugs in each nostril to keep the
snot from running up my glasses. :-) A bit hard to clean.
Larry
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 3:06 PM Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net>
wrote:
<thegreybaron@charter.net>
It's done! And now that it's done, I would like to thank the guys on
this list for all their good ideas. I especially like John Hauck's
windshield shape and size, and tried to get as close to it as possible
but still use just one piece of Lexan.
I especially liked Gene Zimmerman's folding arrangement, because I too
was having a terrible time getting in and out w/o bashing the windshield
with my feet. OTOH, Gene's has a full frame and we are trying to keep
the weight down and keep it Part 103 legal. With no frame, it was way
too flexible.
So here is the result, pivots in the front, uses minimal hardware, just
enough to keep it in shape. When you pull it down into flight position,
a pin fits through the aft original windshield mounting tab on the
fuselage frame, one on each side.
Once the pins are in place, the lever swings down to keep them from
pulling back out. Locks everything in place.
Had to modify the fairing with big mounting pads to make the windshield
pivot points parallel with the side of the fairing, otherwise the
windshield bulged out with a big gap along the sides.
Now I just need the weather to warm up and calm down, and we can try out
the new windshield and the new engine - we also swapped out the free air
277 for a fan cooled one. Assuming that everything works OK, then we
modify the 277 to dual ignition.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kolb Firefly Part 103 legal (Redoing the Firefly windshield)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really
is amazing.
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