---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/17/20: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:26 PM - Re: 2 Questions about 2 seat Kolbs (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:13 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 2 Questions about 2 seat Kolbs From: "Richard Pike" I am thinking that you are not getting any response because you are coming across as already knowing too of your own many answers for the questions you are asking. But just trying to be a nice guy here... Yes, the FSII is cramped with two people. Yes, the open original Twinstar flies good with a 503 and two people. If you can figure out a way to enclose it and not add much weight, it will still fly good. A used Firefly would make anyone a fine airplane. So would a used Firestar. I have a MKIII (and a Firefly/Original Firestar mashup) and being almost 74 years old, if I can't take someone with me, I probably won't go fly. After all my years of flying, I want to share it. If I can 't share it, I have other hobbies. If you are younger, your results may vary. A FSII with a 582 uses less fuel than if it had a 447 or 503 because the 582 is loafing at 4800 rpm, (and flying fine at that rpm) whereas the 503 is busy keeping it flying, and the 447 would be VERY busy. A well trimmed and setup MKIII is more agile than a poorly rigged/stock FSII or Firefly/Original Firestar. Guess how I know this? Many hours in all three. (The year before his death, Norm Labhart took my MKIII up for a half hour and upon landing, told me that it was the best flying MKIII he had ever flown) Not bragging, but just so you know that I am not blowing fairy dust... I know how to rig & trim a Kolb. Regardless of whether it is a Hawk, or a Firefly, or an Original Firestar - the lighter it is, the better if flies. Years ago, back when if you wanted to record a flying video, you needed a separate VHS camera as big as your arm, and a separate VHS recorder that weighed 10 pounds to hook it to, and then a12V battery on your airplane to make it all work. I did that on a Maxair Hummer and shot videos all fall, and made a fun video out of it. I say that to say that there was a huge difference in how the Hummer flew with all that junk on it compared to how it flew without that stuff. 20 pounds on a genuine ultralight airplane makes a HUGE difference in how it handles. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kolb Firefly Part 103 legal Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494331#494331 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.