---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/07/20: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:19 AM - Slingshot airframe for sale- East TN (13brv3) 2. 03:24 PM - crash (Larry Cottrell) 3. 04:12 PM - Re: crash (william sullivan) 4. 04:34 PM - Re: crash (Jay Dub) 5. 05:23 PM - Re: crash (Larry Cottrell) 6. 08:43 PM - Re: crash (John Fitt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:15 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Slingshot airframe for sale- East TN From: "13brv3" <13brv3@gmail.com> The Slingshot airframe is officially for sale now that I've removed the engine, instruments, electrical etc for transplant into the Onex. Price is $6000 firm, or $7500 if you like to haggle :-) The plane is located at Athens TN, KMMI. Of course it's a terrible time to try to buy or sell something like this, but things will get better eventually. Email for more info, and additional pictures. Rusty Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495669#495669 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ss2019_0532_121.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:42 PM PST US From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Kolb-List: crash https://www.columbian.com/news/2020/apr/07/clark-county-sheriffs-office-ids-man-killed-in-plane-crash/ Anybody know this guy? Larry -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:06 PM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: crash I don't recall him being on the List. Bill Sullivan do not archive. On Tuesday, April 7, 2020, 06:24:47 PM EDT, Larry Cottrell wrote: https://www.columbian.com/news/2020/apr/07/clark-county-sheriffs-office-id s-man-killed-in-plane-crash/=C2- Anybody know this guy?Larry=C2- -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of othe rs. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addres s before sending. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:49 PM PST US From: Jay Dub Subject: Re: Kolb-List: crash I've seen pictures of similar crashes. Is there an issue where the prop or something gets flung from the prop and strikes the boom tube?=C2- Other c rash photos on the web of kolbs show it kinked there. See the photo from th e news article attached. Jay------------------------------------ I am responsible for the idea behind this message. Unfortunately, the email you received may be substantially different from that idea due to my iDroi d's autocorrect feature! On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 5:15 PM -0600, "william sullivan" wrote: I don't recall him being on the List. Bill Sullivan do not archive. On Tuesday, April 7, 2020, 06:24:47 PM EDT, Larry Cottrell wrote: https://www.columbian.com/news/2020/apr/07/clark-county-she riffs-office-ids-man-killed-in-plane-crash/=C2- Anybody know this guy?Larry=C2- -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of othe rs. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addres s before sending. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:38 PM PST US From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: crash I am not a Crash expert, although I have managed to do so three times so far, but this looks to me like what would result from a stall. Notice how much the nose is crumpled and the plane is in a "lawn Dart" position. The broken boom tube is quite a ways past where the prop would strike, plus the prop is still on the plane, so I doubt that the prop was involved in the accident at all, perhaps other than running at the time. The original picture shows the runway about 2-3 hundred yards behind the plane. However it is perhaps foolish to second guess anyone much less this poor guy. I once stalled about 50 feet above my runway trying to master slow flight. I looked away for a second and the plane dropped nose down, as I watched my ASI go past 30 MPH the wrong direction. I was in a steep angle descent when I punched the throttle full forward. It of course took a looong time to spool up, but I managed to get it into a close to level attitude before impact but I still hit one gear leg hard enough to break off the axle of my right gear leg, and bury the gear leg all the way up to the bottom of the cage. I blame the VG's for my survival. Larry ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:41 PM PST US From: John Fitt Subject: Re: Kolb-List: crash I had a bad landing ( FS ll ) that resulted in a broken boom tube at the sam e place shown in the photo- The H-section ends where the break is. Maybe the H-section could be longer.. .but I would expect that the boom would still be destroyed, just further aft . I also had damage to the fuselage sleeve that accepts the gear leg. Any design ideas for a J-3 type of bungee shock absorber? Fuselage would rea lly need reviewing. John Fitt Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote : > > I am not a Crash expert, although I have managed to do so three times so f ar, but this looks to me like what would result from a stall. Notice how muc h the nose is crumpled and the plane is in a "lawn Dart" position. The broke n boom tube is quite a ways past where the prop would strike, plus the prop i s still on the plane, so I doubt that the prop was involved in the accident a t all, perhaps other than running at the time. The original picture shows th e runway about 2-3 hundred yards behind the plane. > > However it is perhaps foolish to second guess anyone much less this poor g uy. > > I once stalled about 50 feet above my runway trying to master slow flight. I looked away for a second and the plane dropped nose down, as I watched my ASI go past 30 MPH the wrong direction. I was in a steep angle descent when I punched the throttle full forward. It of course took a looong time to spo ol up, but I managed to get it into a close to level attitude before impact b ut I still hit one gear leg hard enough to break off the axle of my right ge ar leg, and bury the gear leg all the way up to the bottom of the cage. I bl ame the VG's for my survival. > > Larry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.