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Tue 08/11/20


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 07:01 AM - Re: How are spars shipped? (Rick Neilsen)
     2. 08:55 AM - Re: How are spars shipped? (JohnF)
     3. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: How are spars shipped? (Franklin Geiser)
     4. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: How are spars shipped? (Stuart Harner)
     5. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: How are spars shipped? (Charlie England)
     6. 10:32 AM - Re: Re: How are spars shipped? (B Young)
     7. 11:27 AM - Re: How are spars shipped? (JohnF)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:01:38 AM PST US
    From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: How are spars shipped?
    I don't know how spars are shipped now but when I got mine 25 years ago they were shipped standard freight in the cardboard tubes like Boyd talked about. My son watched the driver throw the (Warning Fragile!) spars out of the truck. My spars were dented but usable by locating the dents in low stress areas. My fuselage cage was crushed by what looked like forklift tire tracks. I refused delivery of the 1st cage. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:21 PM B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if they have changed their procedure. But mine came in a 15 > - 16 inch diameter cardboard tube 3/8 inch thick maybe more > > Boyd Young > Do not archive >


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    Time: 08:55:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: How are spars shipped?
    From: "JohnF" <n29cx@ridgeviewtel.us>
    I just received a reply from Kolb about shipping main and wing spars. It turns out they will not ship them. Helen said they no longer trust shipping companies (I can understand that) but that they will drive and meet me half way for $1 per mile, charge both ways, so that would mean about $1,340 to them plus about the same again for me to rent a truck to meet them. That puts delivery costs so high that I guess I will have no forget buying and building a Fire Fly. I am going to do some looking around locally to see if I can come up with a reasonable alternative but living in a small mountain town options are limited Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497647#497647


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    Time: 09:58:42 AM PST US
    From: Franklin Geiser <fmgeiser@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: How are spars shipped?
    Maybe try something like uship.com? There's definitely some custom carriers (usually small guys with a pickup and trailer) that will do specialized shipping - boats, motorcycles, etc that are delicate and high value. Around here I'd talk to a custom furniture hauler, they've got enclosed trailers and lots of blankets to wrap everything in On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM JohnF <n29cx@ridgeviewtel.us> wrote: > > I just received a reply from Kolb about shipping main and wing spars. It > turns out they will not ship them. Helen said they no longer trust shipping > companies (I can understand that) but that they will drive and meet me half > way for $1 per mile, charge both ways, so that would mean about $1,340 to > them plus about the same again for me to rent a truck to meet them. > > That puts delivery costs so high that I guess I will have no forget buying > and building a Fire Fly. > > I am going to do some looking around locally to see if I can come up with > a reasonable alternative but living in a small mountain town options are > limited > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497647#497647 > >


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    Time: 10:10:12 AM PST US
    From: "Stuart Harner" <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
    Subject: Re: How are spars shipped?
    Kolb shipped my quick build kit on a private company called Partain. It was well padded and strapped to the trailer. There was a classic restored pickup in the back end. I got the whole thing for about the same amount. If you are willing to wait until they have a shipment going nearby or through your area you could save a lot of money. Thinking back to the 80's I worked in an automobile parts department. Even back then freight claims took up a lot of my time. Body parts were particularly vulnerable. I had a cast iron exhaust manifold delivered last week that looked like it had been air dropped rather than ground delivered. :( Another option you might consider is a one way trailer rental from London, KY. Depending on the supply situation, you might get a really good deal if you live where they are experiencing a shortage. Don't give up, there is always a way. Stuart -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JohnF Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:54 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How are spars shipped? I just received a reply from Kolb about shipping main and wing spars. It turns out they will not ship them. Helen said they no longer trust shipping companies (I can understand that) but that they will drive and meet me half way for $1 per mile, charge both ways, so that would mean about $1,340 to them plus about the same again for me to rent a truck to meet them. That puts delivery costs so high that I guess I will have no forget buying and building a Fire Fly. I am going to do some looking around locally to see if I can come up with a reasonable alternative but living in a small mountain town options are limited Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497647#497647


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    Time: 10:27:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: How are spars shipped?
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Stuart beat me to it; Partain is the company a lot of RV guys use for kits, and even partially complete projects when they change hands. My understanding is that they don't crate the components; they just pad everything well and strap it in. For that kind of money, if it weren't for Covid I'd seriously consider a little retirement business. Get to see the country on somebody else's dime. ;-) Charlie On 8/11/2020 12:09 PM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > Kolb shipped my quick build kit on a private company called Partain. It > was well padded and strapped to the trailer. There was a classic restored > pickup in the back end. I got the whole thing for about the same amount. > > If you are willing to wait until they have a shipment going nearby or > through your area you could save a lot of money. > > Thinking back to the 80's I worked in an automobile parts department. Even > back then freight claims took up a lot of my time. Body parts were > particularly vulnerable. I had a cast iron exhaust manifold delivered last > week that looked like it had been air dropped rather than ground delivered. > :( > > Another option you might consider is a one way trailer rental from London, > KY. Depending on the supply situation, you might get a really good deal if > you live where they are experiencing a shortage. > > Don't give up, there is always a way. > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JohnF > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:54 AM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How are spars shipped? > > > I just received a reply from Kolb about shipping main and wing spars. It > turns out they will not ship them. Helen said they no longer trust shipping > companies (I can understand that) but that they will drive and meet me half > way for $1 per mile, charge both ways, so that would mean about $1,340 to > them plus about the same again for me to rent a truck to meet them. > > That puts delivery costs so high that I guess I will have no forget buying > and building a Fire Fly. > > I am going to do some looking around locally to see if I can come up with a > reasonable alternative but living in a small mountain town options are > limited > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 10:32:04 AM PST US
    From: B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: How are spars shipped?
    If getting the spars to you is to costly... Different options may be to try another source, ie. Aircraft spruce.. check on insurance so you can have the parts replaced if damaged... There is a new show in our area "shipping wars" where private shippers bid on delivery cost. Have the spars custom packed. 2x6 on sides and ends with plywood top and bottom. With voids filled with packing peanuts. I ordered my parts in 1998. The spars came undamaged,,, another box was smashed in 99. It took a while to get the shipping company to issue a check, but they finally paid for all the damaged parts. Good luck Boyd Young Mkiii utah


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    Time: 11:27:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: How are spars shipped?
    From: "JohnF" <n29cx@ridgeviewtel.us>
    Thank you guys for the ideas. I am in the process of contacting Partain now to see what might be possible. When the RV-12 wing kit from Vans arrived there were two fork lift holes through the side of a substantial wooden crate.. Somehow nothing was damaged - a real miracle. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497656#497656




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