---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/25/20: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:53 AM - Re: Kolb Flyins in NC (shaypete) 2. 10:59 AM - Re: Kolb Flyins in NC (esp3500) 3. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Flyins in NC (Charlie England) 4. 11:53 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Flyins in NC (william sullivan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:38 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Flyins in NC From: "shaypete" HI Bill, thanks for taking the time to respond. I am sorry to hear about your struggle right now. Lt me know when you feel up to it and maybe we can get together, I am in Raleigh and fly out of Lake Ridge -------- Peter Raleigh, NC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497971#497971 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:48 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Flyins in NC From: "esp3500" I'm Near Greensboro NC. I am a novice with an old twin star. I would love to crash a fly in. :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497976#497976 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Flyins in NC From: Charlie England On 8/25/2020 7:53 AM, shaypete wrote: > > HI Bill, thanks for taking the time to respond. I am sorry to hear about your struggle right now. > Lt me know when you feel up to it and maybe we can get together, I am in Raleigh and fly out of Lake Ridge > > -------- > Peter > Raleigh, NC It's worth noting that while Bill may be an extreme case, I'll bet that 75-80% of the people who would show up will have some form of compromising condition, whether they want to admit it or not. We are a very 'unhealthy' nation. Overweight? (Be honest with yourself.) Diabetes? Elevated blood pressure? *AGE?* (I'm 69.) If you haven't had a heart-to-heart conversation with your personal doc specifically about Covid and your risks, it really would be a good idea. I have several friends who are working with Covid patients all the time, and things can be *much* worse than you might think, watching some news sources. (BTW, social media isn't a news source.) We've been hearing for months about things just now showing up in the news, like young, healthy people getting it, recovering, and a couple of weeks later having a stroke or heart attack & dying. Autopsies of Covid victims finding blood clots scattered through every organ. Being unable to intubate people because their weight prevented the ventilator from being able to inflate their lungs. And don't forget that if you're exposed, you can transmit it to someone else who may be 'compromised', even if you never have symptoms yourself. I understand wanting to get out & do stuff; my wife is compromised by leukemia & we're both in the age group most at risk, and we have done nothing but doc visits and (when possible) parking lot food pickups since March. We're both going stir crazy. But we'd rather wait another year for a vaccine or cure, than risk dying to go out and play right now. Most of my friends are ignoring the warnings (I live in an area of, for lack of a better term, science denial). They've been going to flyins. But no one's been able to repeal disease transmission, any more than the law of gravity. It won't be a shock to lose at least one of them before this is over. The USA has around 4% of the world's population, and we've had around 22% of the Covid related deaths. That 22% number is based on reported deaths, and I know for a fact that my home state is under-reporting cases and deaths, and multiple other states have said publicly that they will no longer report case and death numbers. I know this has been very 'preachie', I'm just another faceless page on social media, but you do have actual science-based advice available from your doc. Please, go ask. Charlie -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:03 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Flyins in NC Charlie- Yes, I am rather compromised at the moment. Radiation treatments for cancer. Hopefully, working. Bill Sullivan do not archive On Tuesday, August 25, 2020, 02:45:03 PM EDT, Charlie England wrote: On 8/25/2020 7:53 AM, shaypete wrote: > > HI Bill, thanks for taking the time to respond. I am sorry to hear about your struggle right now. > Lt me know when you feel up to it and maybe we can get together, I am in Raleigh and fly out of Lake Ridge > > -------- > Peter > Raleigh, NC It's worth noting that while Bill may be an extreme case, I'll bet that 75-80% of the people who would show up will have some form of compromising condition, whether they want to admit it or not. We are a very 'unhealthy' nation. Overweight? (Be honest with yourself.) Diabetes? Elevated blood pressure? *AGE?* (I'm 69.) If you haven't had a heart-to-heart conversation with your personal doc specifically about Covid and your risks, it really would be a good idea. I have several friends who are working with Covid patients all the time, and things can be *much* worse than you might think, watching some news sources. (BTW, social media isn't a news source.) We've been hearing for months about things just now showing up in the news, like young, healthy people getting it, recovering, and a couple of weeks later having a stroke or heart attack & dying. Autopsies of Covid victims finding blood clots scattered through every organ. Being unable to intubate people because their weight prevented the ventilator from being able to inflate their lungs. And don't forget that if you're exposed, you can transmit it to someone else who may be 'compromised', even if you never have symptoms yourself. I understand wanting to get out & do stuff; my wife is compromised by leukemia & we're both in the age group most at risk, and we have done nothing but doc visits and (when possible) parking lot food pickups since March. We're both going stir crazy. But we'd rather wait another year for a vaccine or cure, than risk dying to go out and play right now. Most of my friends are ignoring the warnings (I live in an area of, for lack of a better term, science denial). They've been going to flyins. But no one's been able to repeal disease transmission, any more than the law of gravity. It won't be a shock to lose at least one of them before this is over. The USA has around 4% of the world's population, and we've had around 22% of the Covid related deaths. That 22% number is based on reported deaths, and I know for a fact that my home state is under-reporting cases and deaths, and multiple other states have said publicly that they will no longer report case and death numbers. I know this has been very 'preachie',=C2- I'm just another faceless page on social media, but you do have actual science-based advice available from your doc. Please, go ask. 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