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1. 07:12 AM - Re: Firestar KXP (kolbflyer)
2. 07:41 AM - wheel pant options for Firestar (Jay Dub)
3. 07:47 AM - Re: Firestar KXP (slingshot003)
4. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: Firestar KXP (Larry Cottrell)
5. 09:54 AM - Re: wheel pant options for Firestar (Stuart Harner)
6. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Firestar KXP (B)
7. 02:43 PM - Re: Re: Firestar KXP (Rick Neilsen)
8. 09:48 PM - Re: wheel pant options for Firestar (Richard Pike)
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar KXP |
Larry,
thanks for the link to an upgraded tailwheel. which one is a direct mount, if
any?
additionally, did you add those vertical bars to both sides to support the tailwheel
assembly or just one side?
Thanks again and hope you have a great holiday.
Jeremy
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| Subject: | wheel pant options for Firestar |
As I'm working on my build I keep thinking ahead of what I would like to finish
before flying.
The airstrip I plan to use is newly graded pasture (imagine WY having pasture land
haha). The dirt has fine gravel in it as there is a vein of gravel in that
area (a gravel pit is across the dirt road). Being a pusher, and having flown
a pusher a while, I know anything that can go through the prop WILL go through
the prop. I'm concerned about kicking up stones on take off and landings. We
are in a semi arid climate so grass doesn't just grow much unless it's watered
a lot.
Because of the stones, I need to either fabricate a wheel well of some sort (I
have a few ideas) or just throw wheel pants on it. Any ideas of what is available
that work well on a Firestar? My tires are the Carlisle Turf Glide 8-6 on
6x6 Blackmax 1 piece wheels. I saw in the plans there is a special nut/spacer
to use with wheel pants. Where is that part available? I don't know much about
putting wheel pants on a Kolb so I'm asking for advice.
Thanks,
Jay
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar KXP |
Hello Jeremy,
You are going to love your new plane! Your concern about the tail wheel is valid.
It is not designed to have a lot of side force on it. You have to be careful
with it and definitely don't blast the tail around with the prop while its
on the ground. Give me a call, 35two-342-2982, if you have any questions. I
have a KXP1 as well. -Richard
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar KXP |
The link that I sent you will slip onto your tail wheel tube. The
braces for the tail wheel are both sides, using the existing bolts and
holes already in the tail wheel tube, Just drill holes in the collar
in between existing holes.
One of the posts by Jay Dub talks about wheel pants to keep gravel out
of the prop. The only thing that ever went through my prop always came
from off the top of the engine. :-/ Where the gravel kicked up by the
tires only hits the vertical stab and rudder. I have never had a
serious problem with anything like that, but if I was going to "solve"
the problem I would go with the "deflectors' like those on the bush
planes on the series "Flying Wild Alaska". They are merely flat pieces
of aluminum about 5 inches wide that are bolted to the wheel axle. The
problem with wheel pants is that things end up inside the pants. I
cannot prove it but the flat piece behind the wheel will do about as
much to decrease drag as do the pants.
Larry
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 8:14 AM kolbflyer <j-lauer@live.com> wrote:
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>
> Larry,
> thanks for the link to an upgraded tailwheel. which one is a direct mount, if
any?
>
> additionally, did you add those vertical bars to both sides to support the tailwheel
assembly or just one side?
>
> Thanks again and hope you have a great holiday.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=509745#509745
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wheel pant options for Firestar |
The smartass in me has to say this:
How about just using titanium skis? Light weight, usable year round and
you could rig a retractable "cat's claws" type of braking system. ;)
Seriously though, what about some kind of "mud flap"? A lot of
taildraggers just had a half wheel pant to keep mud off the bottom of
the wings. If you had some kind of mud flap that could trail in the
wind, it would deflect rocks at slow speed but would lift up into a more
streamlined position during flight. Of course it might act as a speed
brake at the bottom of the airframe, just where you don't want it.
You could experiment with just clamping it to the gear leg until you
figured out a final design.
Just spit ballin....
Stuart
On 12/20/22 09:40, Jay Dub wrote:
>
> As I'm working on my build I keep thinking ahead of what I would like to finish
before flying.
>
> The airstrip I plan to use is newly graded pasture (imagine WY having pasture
land haha). The dirt has fine gravel in it as there is a vein of gravel in that
area (a gravel pit is across the dirt road). Being a pusher, and having flown
a pusher a while, I know anything that can go through the prop WILL go through
the prop. I'm concerned about kicking up stones on take off and landings.
We are in a semi arid climate so grass doesn't just grow much unless it's watered
a lot.
>
> Because of the stones, I need to either fabricate a wheel well of some sort (I
have a few ideas) or just throw wheel pants on it. Any ideas of what is available
that work well on a Firestar? My tires are the Carlisle Turf Glide 8-6 on
6x6 Blackmax 1 piece wheels. I saw in the plans there is a special nut/spacer
to use with wheel pants. Where is that part available? I don't know much about
putting wheel pants on a Kolb so I'm asking for advice.
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar KXP |
This is not the best picture, but look at the front of the tail wheel
attachment rod,, up to the ring that attaches the back of the empanage to
the tail boom....
I have a 1/4 by 3/4 flat bar on both sides. They triangulate the lower
vertical stabilizer to the tail boom and eliminate most of the side load.
___Boyd_________________
looks like it could fold over if there was enough side loading.
>
> anyone have pictures of their tailwheel attachment point to see if my
> setup is wrong or how to reinforce it.
>
> Thanks
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar KXP |
Jeremy
I too added the tail wheel brace to my plane. I have seen damage from
others and felt it was needed. I used two pieces of 1/8 by one inch
aluminum hardware stock to brace the tail wheel. Yes, both sides.
I also changed the tail wheel from the pizza cutter to Kolb supplied
locking full swivel unit. Seems like Brian had a lighter unit he developed.
I have the older style which required modifications to work properly. First
drilled holes in the tail wheel bellcrank inboard/closer to the pivot so
that the tail wheel would rotate enough at full rudder movement so the tail
wheel would unlock. Then I added compression springs so that I could taxi
in a cross wind without unintended tail wheel unlocking.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 10:14 AM kolbflyer <j-lauer@live.com> wrote:
>
> Larry,
> thanks for the link to an upgraded tailwheel. which one is a direct
> mount, if any?
>
> additionally, did you add those vertical bars to both sides to support the
> tailwheel assembly or just one side?
>
> Thanks again and hope you have a great holiday.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=509745#509745
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wheel pant options for Firestar |
Jaydub said: (Quote) I saw in the plans there is a special nut/spacer to use with
wheel pants. Where is that part available? I don't know much about putting
wheel pants on a Kolb so I'm asking for advice. (End quote)
I am 99% sure this is what you are referring to. They replace the standard axle
nuts and extend out to the outside inner part of the wheelpant, and are threaded
for a 1/4" screw/bolt.
Verify that your axle thread on your KXP is the same as the MKIII (which is what
these are off of - I made them for my MKIII about 26 years ago) and they will
likely fit, depending on the width of your wheel pants. You can always add a
spacer if necessary.
Yours free plus a few bucks for shipping. PM me your address once you are sure
they will work.
Check out the link here for how I mounted the wheel pants on my MKIII:
http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/pg6.htm
I may still have those mounting brackets somewhere, if I can find them and you
want them, you can have them too.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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