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Thu 01/20/05


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 06:58 AM -  (Bill Geipel)
     2. 07:14 AM - fly-in (Bill Geipel)
     3. 07:16 AM - Re:  (Gary Cole)
     4. 09:20 AM - Re:  (Roma L. Skinner)
     5. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: fly-in (AI Nut)
     6. 04:12 PM - Re: Re: fly-in (Zach McNeill)
     7. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: fly-in (Ernest Martinez)
     8. 08:01 PM - Re: Re: fly-in (Roma L. Skinner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:58:16 AM PST US
    From: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net>
    1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject": l29-list@matronics.com --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net> Roma, how ar the plans for the fly-in going? Do you suppose that any of you L-29 guys will fly this time? Last year we had a good price on gas and only the L-39s & 2 L-29s flew. I know there are more than 2 L-29s that were there. I would like to bring my airplane down and do some formation. But, if nobody flys, that would be an expensive bar-b-que for me. Those $400 hamburgers just turned into a $2000 Bar-B. Noel and I had a great time. How about some others joining us. I would like to do a real formation clinic, with flying and everything! Even just some formation practice. I'm not a bad instructor and I would love to teach a clinic. How about we pull the tail off an airplane and teach everybody how to do an annual inspection? (a real one) Just some thoughts. Fly safe!


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    Time: 07:14:20 AM PST US
    From: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net>
    Subject: fly-in
    --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net> -----Forwarded Message----- From: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net> Subject: Roma, how ar the plans for the fly-in going? Do you suppose that any of you L-29 guys will fly this time? Last year we had a good price on gas and only the L-39s & 2 L-29s flew. I know there are more than 2 L-29s that were there. I would like to bring my airplane down and do some formation. But, if nobody flys, that would be an expensive bar-b-que for me. Those $400 hamburgers just turned into a $2000 Bar-B. Noel and I had a great time. How about some others joining us. I would like to do a real formation clinic, with flying and everything! Even just some formation practice. I'm not a bad instructor and I would love to teach a clinic. How about we pull the tail off an airplane and teach everybody how to do an annual inspection? (a real one) Just some thoughts. Fly safe!


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    Time: 07:16:23 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flash.net>
    Subject: RE:
    --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flash.net> Marvin and Gary plan on coming and would be of any help we can. Blake is an excellent instructor and I am almost sure he would like to ride with anyone that is interested. Tail off inspection would be a great idea. Let's pull Bill's. I will save all my $s to fly at LNC. Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel l29-list@matronics.com Subject: --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net> Roma, how ar the plans for the fly-in going? Do you suppose that any of you L-29 guys will fly this time? Last year we had a good price on gas and only the L-39s & 2 L-29s flew. I know there are more than 2 L-29s that were there. I would like to bring my airplane down and do some formation. But, if nobody flys, that would be an expensive bar-b-que for me. Those $400 hamburgers just turned into a $2000 Bar-B. Noel and I had a great time. How about some others joining us. I would like to do a real formation clinic, with flying and everything! Even just some formation practice. I'm not a bad instructor and I would love to teach a clinic. How about we pull the tail off an airplane and teach everybody how to do an annual inspection? (a real one) Just some thoughts. Fly safe!


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    Time: 09:20:10 AM PST US
    From: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net>
    Subject: Re:
    --> L29-List message posted by: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net> weekend of May 14th, some will arrive Thurs will end Sun at noon, will have 6 local L-29's and 5 loal L-39's, nitrogen will be furnished, we will need a list of the type fitting for different aircraft, working with City for special fuel price and hotel., big blast on Friday night, food drinks etc, Sat Nite ????? need formation clinic and other , let me know Roma. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6@earthlink.net> l29-list@matronics.com> > --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net> > > Roma, how ar the plans for the fly-in going? > > Do you suppose that any of you L-29 guys will fly this time? > Last year we had a good price on gas and only the L-39s & 2 L-29s flew. I > know there are more than 2 L-29s that were there. > > I would like to bring my airplane down and do some formation. But, if > nobody flys, that would be an expensive bar-b-que for me. Those $400 > hamburgers just turned into a $2000 Bar-B. > > Noel and I had a great time. How about some others joining us. > > I would like to do a real formation clinic, with flying and everything! > Even just some formation practice. I'm not a bad instructor and I would > love to teach a clinic. > > How about we pull the tail off an airplane and teach everybody how to do > an annual inspection? (a real one) > > Just some thoughts. > > > Fly safe! > > >


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    Time: 02:32:17 PM PST US
    From: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: fly-in
    --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net> Pardon me for some very basic questions, as I've recently joined this list. 1. Where is the fly-in, please? Is it open invitation? 2. I was under the impression that the birds can only be flown from and to the home airport, except for individual requests that each must be approved by an FSDO. Am I incorrect in this? I'm still working on my 1,000 hours 8-). Thanks, David Roma L. Skinner wrote: >--> L29-List message posted by: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net> > >weekend of May 14th, some will arrive Thurs will end Sun at noon, will have >6 local L-29's and 5 loal L-39's, nitrogen will be furnished, we will need a >list of the type fitting for different aircraft, working with City for >special fuel price and hotel., big blast on Friday night, food drinks etc, >Sat Nite ????? > >need formation clinic and other , > >let me know >Roma. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6@earthlink.net> >To: <<l29-list@matronics.com> 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject : >l29-list@matronics.com> > > > > >>--> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net> >> >>Roma, how ar the plans for the fly-in going? >> >>Do you suppose that any of you L-29 guys will fly this time? >>Last year we had a good price on gas and only the L-39s & 2 L-29s flew. I >>know there are more than 2 L-29s that were there. >> >>I would like to bring my airplane down and do some formation. But, if >>nobody flys, that would be an expensive bar-b-que for me. Those $400 >>hamburgers just turned into a $2000 Bar-B. >> >>Noel and I had a great time. How about some others joining us. >> >>I would like to do a real formation clinic, with flying and everything! >>Even just some formation practice. I'm not a bad instructor and I would >>love to teach a clinic. >> >>How about we pull the tail off an airplane and teach everybody how to do >>an annual inspection? (a real one) >> >>Just some thoughts. >> >> >>Fly safe! >> >> >>


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    Time: 04:12:17 PM PST US
    From: "Zach McNeill" <N777ZE@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: fly-in
    --> L29-List message posted by: "Zach McNeill" <N777ZE@comcast.net> David: You would be flying your jet in to display it. The exact reason why we purchase the jets. I plan to attend as I enjoyed the flying and fun last year. Roma let me know if you want me to assist again. Lancaster airport has a great FBO and they bend over backwards to help out the jet owners. Not exactly sure what bill means by a real formation clinic. I would love to take part in a simulated annual. Fly Safe! Zach -----Original Message----- From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AI Nut Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net> Pardon me for some very basic questions, as I've recently joined this list. 1. Where is the fly-in, please? Is it open invitation? 2. I was under the impression that the birds can only be flown from and to the home airport, except for individual requests that each must be approved by an FSDO. Am I incorrect in this? I'm still working on my 1,000 hours 8-). Thanks, David Roma L. Skinner wrote: >--> L29-List message posted by: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net> > >weekend of May 14th, some will arrive Thurs will end Sun at noon, will have >6 local L-29's and 5 loal L-39's, nitrogen will be furnished, we will need a >list of the type fitting for different aircraft, working with City for >special fuel price and hotel., big blast on Friday night, food drinks etc, >Sat Nite ????? > >need formation clinic and other , > >let me know >Roma. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6@earthlink.net> >To: <<l29-list@matronics.com> 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject : >l29-list@matronics.com> > > > > >>--> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net> >> >>Roma, how ar the plans for the fly-in going? >> >>Do you suppose that any of you L-29 guys will fly this time? >>Last year we had a good price on gas and only the L-39s & 2 L-29s flew. I >>know there are more than 2 L-29s that were there. >> >>I would like to bring my airplane down and do some formation. But, if >>nobody flys, that would be an expensive bar-b-que for me. Those $400 >>hamburgers just turned into a $2000 Bar-B. >> >>Noel and I had a great time. How about some others joining us. >> >>I would like to do a real formation clinic, with flying and everything! >>Even just some formation practice. I'm not a bad instructor and I would >>love to teach a clinic. >> >>How about we pull the tail off an airplane and teach everybody how to do >>an annual inspection? (a real one) >> >>Just some thoughts. >> >> >>Fly safe! >> >> >>


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    Time: 05:35:21 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: fly-in
    --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> David, Our jets have operating limitations with their experimental/exibition airworthiness certificate. The limitation stipulate that you can fly within a 600 mile radius of a "Home Base" otherwise you must notify the FSDO responsible for the area that you are visiting. The ops limitations also stipulate that all flights must begin and end at the home base for proficiency flights except for an alternate airport. The alternate is not specific however, so you could theoretically land somewhere else within your radius to get fuel or maintenance. As Zach correctly stated the experimental/exibition status of our AW certificate is so A. We can maintain proficiency in these aircraft, and B. So we can exibit our airplanes in Airshows, movie productions etc. Going to a formation clinic is part of proficiency flying. Every time we fly the airplane it is either a proficiency flight or an exibition flight. Ernie On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:31:25 -0600, AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net> wrote: > --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net> > > Pardon me for some very basic questions, as I've recently joined this list. > > 1. Where is the fly-in, please? Is it open invitation? > > 2. I was under the impression that the birds can only be flown from and > to the home airport, except for individual requests that each must be > approved by an FSDO. Am I incorrect in this? > > I'm still working on my 1,000 hours 8-). > > Thanks, > David > > Roma L. Skinner wrote: > > >--> L29-List message posted by: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net> > > > >weekend of May 14th, some will arrive Thurs will end Sun at noon, will have > >6 local L-29's and 5 loal L-39's, nitrogen will be furnished, we will need a > >list of the type fitting for different aircraft, working with City for > >special fuel price and hotel., big blast on Friday night, food drinks etc, > >Sat Nite ????? > > > >need formation clinic and other , > > > >let me know > >Roma. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6@earthlink.net> > >To: <<l29-list@matronics.com> 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject : > >l29-list@matronics.com> > > > > > > > > > >>--> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net> > >> > >>Roma, how ar the plans for the fly-in going? > >> > >>Do you suppose that any of you L-29 guys will fly this time? > >>Last year we had a good price on gas and only the L-39s & 2 L-29s flew. I > >>know there are more than 2 L-29s that were there. > >> > >>I would like to bring my airplane down and do some formation. But, if > >>nobody flys, that would be an expensive bar-b-que for me. Those $400 > >>hamburgers just turned into a $2000 Bar-B. > >> > >>Noel and I had a great time. How about some others joining us. > >> > >>I would like to do a real formation clinic, with flying and everything! > >>Even just some formation practice. I'm not a bad instructor and I would > >>love to teach a clinic. > >> > >>How about we pull the tail off an airplane and teach everybody how to do > >>an annual inspection? (a real one) > >> > >>Just some thoughts. > >> > >> > >>Fly safe! > >> > >> > >> > > >


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    Time: 08:01:12 PM PST US
    From: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net>
    Subject: Re: fly-in
    --> L29-List message posted by: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net> Hi , Zach we could use your help, I think a tail off inspection on the L-29 would be a good project, we can also get Bill Leavelle to help, Bill Geipel said he could help also, I spoke with the L-29 owners at LNC and they will all be in the air, Gary Cole and Marvin Mixon we be there, Blake from Houston might be able to be there also, BTW he is a very good instructor, Maybe Ernie Martinez can give us a update on the L-29 Air-Con project,,,,,,,May 14th ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com> Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: fly-in > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > David, > > Our jets have operating limitations with their experimental/exibition > airworthiness certificate. The limitation stipulate that you can fly > within a 600 mile radius of a "Home Base" otherwise you must notify > the FSDO responsible for the area that you are visiting. > > The ops limitations also stipulate that all flights must begin and end > at the home base for proficiency flights except for an alternate > airport. The alternate is not specific however, so you could > theoretically land somewhere else within your radius to get fuel or > maintenance. > > As Zach correctly stated the experimental/exibition status of our AW > certificate is so A. We can maintain proficiency in these aircraft, > and B. So we can exibit our airplanes in Airshows, movie productions > etc. Going to a formation clinic is part of proficiency flying. Every > time we fly the airplane it is either a proficiency flight or an > exibition flight. > > Ernie > > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:31:25 -0600, AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net> wrote: >> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net> >> >> Pardon me for some very basic questions, as I've recently joined this >> list. >> >> 1. Where is the fly-in, please? Is it open invitation? >> >> 2. I was under the impression that the birds can only be flown from and >> to the home airport, except for individual requests that each must be >> approved by an FSDO. Am I incorrect in this? >> >> I'm still working on my 1,000 hours 8-). >> >> Thanks, >> David >> >> Roma L. Skinner wrote: >> >> >--> L29-List message posted by: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net> >> > >> >weekend of May 14th, some will arrive Thurs will end Sun at noon, will >> >have >> >6 local L-29's and 5 loal L-39's, nitrogen will be furnished, we will >> >need a >> >list of the type fitting for different aircraft, working with City for >> >special fuel price and hotel., big blast on Friday night, food drinks >> >etc, >> >Sat Nite ????? >> > >> >need formation clinic and other , >> > >> >let me know >> >Roma. >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6@earthlink.net> >> >To: <<l29-list@matronics.com> 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject : >> >l29-list@matronics.com> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>--> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net> >> >> >> >>Roma, how ar the plans for the fly-in going? >> >> >> >>Do you suppose that any of you L-29 guys will fly this time? >> >>Last year we had a good price on gas and only the L-39s & 2 L-29s flew. >> >>I >> >>know there are more than 2 L-29s that were there. >> >> >> >>I would like to bring my airplane down and do some formation. But, if >> >>nobody flys, that would be an expensive bar-b-que for me. Those $400 >> >>hamburgers just turned into a $2000 Bar-B. >> >> >> >>Noel and I had a great time. How about some others joining us. >> >> >> >>I would like to do a real formation clinic, with flying and everything! >> >>Even just some formation practice. I'm not a bad instructor and I would >> >>love to teach a clinic. >> >> >> >>How about we pull the tail off an airplane and teach everybody how to >> >>do >> >>an annual inspection? (a real one) >> >> >> >>Just some thoughts. >> >> >> >> >> >>Fly safe! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >




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