---------------------------------------------------------- L29-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/10/05: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:21 AM - Re: Air Conditioning (Ernest Martinez) 2. 09:41 AM - Re: Air Conditioning (Jorgen Nielsen) 3. 09:59 AM - M 701C-500 Engines Snow Blowers (SD737@aol.com) 4. 10:21 AM - Re: Air Conditioning (Ernest Martinez) 5. 12:34 PM - Correction (SD737@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:29 AM PST US From: Ernest Martinez Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez Bingo......When the gear is retracted the brakes are momentarilly applied to stop them from spinning before going into the wheel wells. So from the back seat you can see brakes pressure needles jump. Bill Geipel got me on this one years ago, but I love throwing it out there. Ernie On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:57:04 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen wrote: > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > Hhhmm. They are mechanically locked up, I am not sure then what > circuits are disabled (such as the hydraulics - you indicate that would > be). Perhaps the automatic brake operation is NOT disabled, in which > case you will hear the brakes operate or see the brake pressure guage > indicate momentarily as they are automatically applied. > > If not that, I give up - put me (us?) out of our misery... > > Good one Ernie! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > > Ernest Martinez > > Sent: 10 February 2005 03:25 AM > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > Nope. > > > > Ernie > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:50:49 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > wrote: > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > --> > > > > > > I am guessing here - the 3 reds blink if gear is up and up > > button is > > > pushed? > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest > > > > Martinez > > > > Sent: 10 February 2005 01:13 AM > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > Why would I have seen hydraulic pressure go up momentarilly?? The > > > > gear is already up. > > > > > > > > Try again. > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:32:16 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > > > wrote: > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > hhhmmmmm. You saw hyd pressure going up momentarily, and > > > > me looking > > > > > for the soldiers on the wings? > > > > > > > > > > There is a doofus light in the r/c that I have not found yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of Ernest > > > > > > Martinez > > > > > > Sent: 09 February 2005 08:55 AM > > > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Jorgen, > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear you're enjoying your new toy...........Ok > > > > alll acolades > > > > > > stop now. How well do you know your systems? Heres a > > > > questions for > > > > > > you.....Take this as a "how well do you know your plane > > > > > > question" > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sitting in the back seat of your L-29 minding my own > > > > business, > > > > > > while you're off enjoying yourself as being some real Seria > > > > > > Hotel jet fighter jock, when all of a sudden your GIB > > instructer > > > > > > tells you, while you're on final approach for landing and all > > > > of a suuden > > > > > > you've been told that you hit your "GEAR UP" button > > > > rather than your > > > > > > "GEAR DOWN" button..........How do I know that????????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > I cant see your hands..........This is not a trick question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:59:18 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way to go Ernie! I await feedback with bated breath, > > > > panting and > > > > > > > sweating and somewhat dehydrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice to see action on this list again. I flew my L-29 in > > > > > > > anger properly for the first time yesterday - she is > > > > > > > everything I > > > > > > had hoped > > > > > > > for and more. Took off, flew out to GF, played with basic > > > > > > handling, > > > > > > > stalls clean and dirty, then back for 3 touch & goes and > > > > > > the landing. > > > > > > > She flies great, no vices so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got politely crapped on by my instructor for wanting to > > > > do aeros > > > > > > > on the way to the GF! Was allowed to do some rolls > > on the way > > > > > > > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On > > > > Behalf Of Ernest > > > > > > > > Martinez > > > > > > > > Sent: 08 February 2005 22:40 PM > > > > > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > > Subject: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok folks, I'm back on the Air Conditioning project > > > > again. I have > > > > > > > > found a new manufacturer of a DC compressor that has the > > > > > > capacity to > > > > > > > > do what I need. The weight is a little more and current > > > > > > consumption > > > > > > > > is up a little at around 45 amps, but should work pretty > > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > ========= > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > Matronics Forums. > > ========= > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:19 AM PST US From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: RE: L29-List: Air Conditioning --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" Excellent one - you had me reading the POH to try figure it out - nothing there. My thoughts were all over the place, thinking maybe the electromagnetic locking of the button was perhaps involved, etc. Then I sat and thought through the systems and got the brake bit. Good one Ernie. More, more, more! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Ernest Martinez > Sent: 10 February 2005 17:21 PM > To: l29-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > Bingo......When the gear is retracted the brakes are > momentarilly applied to stop them from spinning before going > into the wheel wells. So from the back seat you can see > brakes pressure needles jump. > > Bill Geipel got me on this one years ago, but I love throwing > it out there. > > Ernie > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:57:04 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > wrote: > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > --> > > > > Hhhmm. They are mechanically locked up, I am not sure then what > > circuits are disabled (such as the hydraulics - you indicate that > > would be). Perhaps the automatic brake operation is NOT > disabled, in > > which case you will hear the brakes operate or see the > brake pressure > > guage indicate momentarily as they are automatically applied. > > > > If not that, I give up - put me (us?) out of our misery... > > > > Good one Ernie! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest > > > Martinez > > > Sent: 10 February 2005 03:25 AM > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > Nope. > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:50:49 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > > wrote: > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > --> > > > > > > > > I am guessing here - the 3 reds blink if gear is up and up > > > button is > > > > pushed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Ernest > > > > > Martinez > > > > > Sent: 10 February 2005 01:13 AM > > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would I have seen hydraulic pressure go up momentarilly?? > > > > > The gear is already up. > > > > > > > > > > Try again. > > > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:32:16 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > hhhmmmmm. You saw hyd pressure going up momentarily, and > > > > > me looking > > > > > > for the soldiers on the wings? > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a doofus light in the r/c that I have not > found yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On > > > Behalf Of Ernest > > > > > > > Martinez > > > > > > > Sent: 09 February 2005 08:55 AM > > > > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Jorgen, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear you're enjoying your new toy...........Ok > > > > > alll acolades > > > > > > > stop now. How well do you know your systems? Heres a > > > > > questions for > > > > > > > you.....Take this as a "how well do you know your plane > > > > > > > question" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sitting in the back seat of your L-29 minding my own > > > > > business, > > > > > > > while you're off enjoying yourself as being some > real Seria > > > > > > > Hotel jet fighter jock, when all of a sudden your GIB > > > instructer > > > > > > > tells you, while you're on final approach for landing and > > > > > > > all > > > > > of a suuden > > > > > > > you've been told that you hit your "GEAR UP" button > > > > > rather than your > > > > > > > "GEAR DOWN" button..........How do I know > that????????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I cant see your hands..........This is not a > trick question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:59:18 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way to go Ernie! I await feedback with bated breath, > > > > > panting and > > > > > > > > sweating and somewhat dehydrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice to see action on this list again. I flew > my L-29 in > > > > > > > > anger properly for the first time yesterday - she is > > > > > > > > everything I > > > > > > > had hoped > > > > > > > > for and more. Took off, flew out to GF, played > with basic > > > > > > > handling, > > > > > > > > stalls clean and dirty, then back for 3 touch & goes and > > > > > > > the landing. > > > > > > > > She flies great, no vices so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got politely crapped on by my instructor for wanting to > > > > > do aeros > > > > > > > > on the way to the GF! Was allowed to do some rolls > > > on the way > > > > > > > > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On > > > > > Behalf Of Ernest > > > > > > > > > Martinez > > > > > > > > > Sent: 08 February 2005 22:40 PM > > > > > > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > > > Subject: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok folks, I'm back on the Air Conditioning project > > > > > again. I have > > > > > > > > > found a new manufacturer of a DC compressor > that has the > > > > > > > capacity to > > > > > > > > > do what I need. The weight is a little more > and current > > > > > > > consumption > > > > > > > > > is up a little at around 45 amps, but should > work pretty > > > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > > ========= > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > Matronics Forums. > > > ========= > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > Matronics Forums. > ========= > ========= > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:43 AM PST US From: SD737@aol.com Subject: L29-List: M 701C-500 Engines Snow Blowers --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com Hi guys, Check out this website _www.turbinesbygateway.com_ (http://www.turbinesbygateway.com) Anyone recognize what engines he uses for his snow blowers. This is the guy who bought a bunch of the M701 engines. His name is Larry and he has all sorts of extra tail cones and tail pipes brand new because he doesn't incorporate the tail pipes/cones into his snow removal machines for the rail road. _SD737@aol.com_ (mailto:SD737@aol.com) (Scott Douglass) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:13 AM PST US From: Ernest Martinez Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez Bill Geipel has got a lot of good ones, Bill you out there???? Ernie On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:34:37 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen wrote: > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > Excellent one - you had me reading the POH to try figure it out - > nothing there. My thoughts were all over the place, thinking maybe the > electromagnetic locking of the button was perhaps involved, etc. Then I > sat and thought through the systems and got the brake bit. Good one > Ernie. More, more, more! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > > Ernest Martinez > > Sent: 10 February 2005 17:21 PM > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > Bingo......When the gear is retracted the brakes are > > momentarilly applied to stop them from spinning before going > > into the wheel wells. So from the back seat you can see > > brakes pressure needles jump. > > > > Bill Geipel got me on this one years ago, but I love throwing > > it out there. > > > > Ernie > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:57:04 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > wrote: > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > --> > > > > > > Hhhmm. They are mechanically locked up, I am not sure then what > > > circuits are disabled (such as the hydraulics - you indicate that > > > would be). Perhaps the automatic brake operation is NOT > > disabled, in > > > which case you will hear the brakes operate or see the > > brake pressure > > > guage indicate momentarily as they are automatically applied. > > > > > > If not that, I give up - put me (us?) out of our misery... > > > > > > Good one Ernie! > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest > > > > Martinez > > > > Sent: 10 February 2005 03:25 AM > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > Nope. > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:50:49 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > > > wrote: > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > I am guessing here - the 3 reds blink if gear is up and up > > > > button is > > > > > pushed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of Ernest > > > > > > Martinez > > > > > > Sent: 10 February 2005 01:13 AM > > > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would I have seen hydraulic pressure go up momentarilly?? > > > > > > The gear is already up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:32:16 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hhhmmmmm. You saw hyd pressure going up momentarily, and > > > > > > me looking > > > > > > > for the soldiers on the wings? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a doofus light in the r/c that I have not > > found yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On > > > > Behalf Of Ernest > > > > > > > > Martinez > > > > > > > > Sent: 09 February 2005 08:55 AM > > > > > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Jorgen, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear you're enjoying your new toy...........Ok > > > > > > alll acolades > > > > > > > > stop now. How well do you know your systems? Heres a > > > > > > questions for > > > > > > > > you.....Take this as a "how well do you know your plane > > > > > > > > question" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sitting in the back seat of your L-29 minding my own > > > > > > business, > > > > > > > > while you're off enjoying yourself as being some > > real Seria > > > > > > > > Hotel jet fighter jock, when all of a sudden your GIB > > > > instructer > > > > > > > > tells you, while you're on final approach for landing and > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > of a suuden > > > > > > > > you've been told that you hit your "GEAR UP" button > > > > > > rather than your > > > > > > > > "GEAR DOWN" button..........How do I know > > that????????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I cant see your hands..........This is not a > > trick question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:59:18 +0200, Jorgen Nielsen > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way to go Ernie! I await feedback with bated breath, > > > > > > panting and > > > > > > > > > sweating and somewhat dehydrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice to see action on this list again. I flew > > my L-29 in > > > > > > > > > anger properly for the first time yesterday - she is > > > > > > > > > everything I > > > > > > > > had hoped > > > > > > > > > for and more. Took off, flew out to GF, played > > with basic > > > > > > > > handling, > > > > > > > > > stalls clean and dirty, then back for 3 touch & goes and > > > > > > > > the landing. > > > > > > > > > She flies great, no vices so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got politely crapped on by my instructor for wanting to > > > > > > do aeros > > > > > > > > > on the way to the GF! Was allowed to do some rolls > > > > on the way > > > > > > > > > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On > > > > > > Behalf Of Ernest > > > > > > > > > > Martinez > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 08 February 2005 22:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > Subject: L29-List: Air Conditioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok folks, I'm back on the Air Conditioning project > > > > > > again. I have > > > > > > > > > > found a new manufacturer of a DC compressor > > that has the > > > > > > > > capacity to > > > > > > > > > > do what I need. The weight is a little more > > and current > > > > > > > > consumption > > > > > > > > > > is up a little at around 45 amps, but should > > work pretty > > > > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > > > Matronics Forums. > > > > ========= > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========= > > Matronics Forums. > > ========= > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:33 PM PST US From: SD737@aol.com Subject: L29-List: Correction --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com Correction: The guy's name is MIKE at _www.turbinesbygateway.com_ (http://www.turbinesbygateway.com)