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1. 05:36 AM - Re: flying the L-29 (AI Nut)
2. 05:55 AM - Re: flying the L-29 (ROBERT SCHWARTZ)
3. 06:09 AM - Re: flying the L-29 (ROBERT SCHWARTZ)
4. 08:00 AM - Re: flying the L-29 (Gary Cole)
5. 08:35 AM - Re: flying the L-29 (SD737@aol.com)
6. 09:29 AM - Re: flying the L-29 (AI Nut)
7. 09:39 AM - Re: flying the L-29 (SD737@aol.com)
8. 09:39 AM - Re: flying the L-29 (Vance Cochrane)
9. 12:17 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (Gary Cole)
10. 12:19 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (SD737@aol.com)
11. 01:05 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (AI Nut)
12. 01:29 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (Vance Cochrane)
13. 02:13 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (Gary Cole)
14. 02:24 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (Vance Cochrane)
15. 07:55 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (Bill Geipel)
16. 08:18 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (AI Nut)
17. 08:39 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (Bill Geipel)
18. 10:50 PM - Re: flying the L-29 (SD737@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Thank you, Z, and all you guys who are helping with this discussion!
new question: what about ground support equipment? What is required and
what is optional but nice to have?
David
>David:
>
>LOA's are no longer in existance. The new term is EAR experimental aircraft rating.
There are several guys in alabama with a lot of experience in the L-29 Alex
Makarenko flew them in Iraq as an instructor. I am down in Jacksonville and
would be more than willing to fly with you in your airplane or mine. Gary's
airplane is a good one. He has gone through it from top to bottom.
>
>Z
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <CA6209@FLASH.NET>
>
> David,
> I have an even better approach. Buy my L29 and fly it to Alabama.
> It is ready to go and you can use the ferry flight to your base
> As part of your training.
> Gary
> Call 713 781 3792
> Ca6209@flash.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AINut
> To: l29-list@matronics.com
> Subject: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> -- L29-List message posted by: AINut <AINUT@HIWAAY.NET>
>
> If I buy and assemble a -29, I assume it won't be difficult to find
> pilots who will fly it with me until I can get my LOA, and split the
> fue
> l costs??? Or am I all wet here?
>
> David
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
To answer your question. Everything is nice to have for GSE. But, a tail
stand, and maybe a set of factory jacks make things a little easier. You can
make the tail stand and use American jacks. The GSE is not so easy to find
in USA.
Robert E. Schwartz
President
THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
Commercial Real Estate Services
2406 East Pleasant Street
Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600
Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If you
are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the
content of this information is strictly prohibited.
----- Original Message -----
From: "AI Nut" <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>
> Thank you, Z, and all you guys who are helping with this discussion!
>
> new question: what about ground support equipment? What is required and
> what is optional but nice to have?
>
> David
>
>
>>David:
>>
>>LOA's are no longer in existance. The new term is EAR experimental
>>aircraft rating. There are several guys in alabama with a lot of
>>experience in the L-29 Alex Makarenko flew them in Iraq as an instructor.
>>I am down in Jacksonville and would be more than willing to fly with you
>>in your airplane or mine. Gary's airplane is a good one. He has gone
>>through it from top to bottom.
>>
>>Z
>>
>>-------------- Original message --------------
>>
>> -- L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <CA6209@FLASH.NET>
>>
>> David,
>> I have an even better approach. Buy my L29 and fly it to Alabama.
>> It is ready to go and you can use the ferry flight to your base
>> As part of your training.
>> Gary
>> Call 713 781 3792
>> Ca6209@flash.net
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AINut
>> To: l29-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>
>> -- L29-List message posted by: AINut <AINUT@HIWAAY.NET>
>>
>> If I buy and assemble a -29, I assume it won't be difficult to find
>> pilots who will fly it with me until I can get my LOA, and split the
>> fue
>> l costs??? Or am I all wet here?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
It is interesting that there is discussion about someone flying L29 aircraft
in Iraq. I was told by the Czech overhaul facility (that performed the
airframe overhauls on the Iraq aircraft in say, 1980s) that these aircraft
had bee field modified to include an upgrade A/C system for better cooling
that was designed and installed in Iraq. Oh, to see one of these
modifications, or to have photos. We need a US GI with a camera!!!!!
Bob Schwartz
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--> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flash.net>
I will attach a picture of the work steps and tow bar that I made for 29s.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n777ze@comcast.net
Subject: RE: L29-List: flying the L-29
--> L29-List message posted by: n777ze@comcast.net
David:
LOA's are no longer in existance. The new term is EAR experimental aircraft
rating. There are several guys in alabama with a lot of experience in the
L-29 Alex Makarenko flew them in Iraq as an instructor. I am down in
Jacksonville and would be more than willing to fly with you in your airplane
or mine. Gary's airplane is a good one. He has gone through it from top to
bottom.
Z
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole"
>
> David,
> I have an even better approach. Buy my L29 and fly it to Alabama.
> It is ready to go and you can use the ferry flight to your base
> As part of your training.
> Gary
> Call 713 781 3792
> Ca6209@flash.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AINut
> To: l29-list@matronics.com
> Subject: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: AINut
>
> If I buy and assemble a -29, I assume it won't be difficult to find
> pilots who will fly it with me until I can get my LOA, and split the
> fuel costs??? Or am I all wet here?
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
David:
LOA's are no longer in existance. The new term is EAR experimental aircraft
rating. There are several guys in alabama with a lot of experience in the
L-29 Alex Makarenko flew them in Iraq as an instructor. I am down in
Jacksonville and would be more than willing to fly with you in your airplane
or mine. Gary's airplane is a good one. He has gone through it from top to
bottom.
Z
-------------- Original message --------------
-- L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <CA6209@FLASH.NET>
David,
I have an even better approach. Buy my L29 and fly it to Alabama.
It is ready to go and you can use the ferry flight to your base
As part of your training.
Gary
Call 713 781 3792
Ca6209@flash.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AINut
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Subject: L29-List: flying the L-29
-- L29-List message posted by: AINut <AINUT@HIWAAY.NET>
If I buy and assemble a -29, I assume it won't be difficult to find
pilots who will fly it with me until I can get my LOA, and split the
fue
l costs??? Or am I all wet here?
David
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com
David,
I know a pretty nice L-29 that could be purchased in the high $40's that has
a new factory overhauled, zero time engine that is on the West Coast and has
been flying for several years.
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Don't we need GSE air to start the engines? Or is the -29 fully
self-contained???
David
ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote:
>--> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
>
>To answer your question. Everything is nice to have for GSE. But, a tail
>stand, and maybe a set of factory jacks make things a little easier. You can
>make the tail stand and use American jacks. The GSE is not so easy to find
>in USA.
>
>Robert E. Schwartz
>President
>THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
>Commercial Real Estate Services
>2406 East Pleasant Street
>Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
>Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600
>Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
>
>This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If you
>are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
>copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the
>content of this information is strictly prohibited.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "AI Nut" <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
>
>
>
>>--> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>
>>Thank you, Z, and all you guys who are helping with this discussion!
>>
>>new question: what about ground support equipment? What is required and
>>what is optional but nice to have?
>>
>>David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Da
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com
It will Battery start and that's what most guys do.
Sort of a hassle to hook up a GPU and then start the plane and then jump
back out and then pull the GPU cord.....
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
--> L29-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com>
The L29 has on on board starter, no ground support required other than to
make sure your nitrogen is full, if it isn't just replenish. Other than
that, it's like a J3 cub ;) that burns a lot of gas.
--
Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com
President Voice: (415) 412-3062
Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364
PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com
> From: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
> Reply-To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:13:16 -0600
> To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>
> Don't we need GSE air to start the engines? Or is the -29 fully
> self-contained???
>
> David
>
>
> ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote:
>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ"
>> <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
>>
>> To answer your question. Everything is nice to have for GSE. But, a tail
>> stand, and maybe a set of factory jacks make things a little easier. You can
>> make the tail stand and use American jacks. The GSE is not so easy to find
>> in USA.
>>
>> Robert E. Schwartz
>> President
>> THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
>> Commercial Real Estate Services
>> 2406 East Pleasant Street
>> Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
>> Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600
>> Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
>>
>> This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If you
>> are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
>> copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the
>> content of this information is strictly prohibited.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "AI Nut" <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>> To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>>
>>> Thank you, Z, and all you guys who are helping with this discussion!
>>>
>>> new question: what about ground support equipment? What is required and
>>> what is optional but nice to have?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Da
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flash.net>
Vance are you going to make it to Lancaster.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vance Cochrane
Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
--> L29-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com>
The L29 has on on board starter, no ground support required other than to
make sure your nitrogen is full, if it isn't just replenish. Other than
that, it's like a J3 cub ;) that burns a lot of gas.
--
Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com
President Voice: (415) 412-3062
Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364
PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com
> From: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
> Reply-To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:13:16 -0600
> To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>
> Don't we need GSE air to start the engines? Or is the -29 fully
> self-contained???
>
> David
>
>
> ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote:
>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ"
>> <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
>>
>> To answer your question. Everything is nice to have for GSE. But, a
tail
>> stand, and maybe a set of factory jacks make things a little easier. You
can
>> make the tail stand and use American jacks. The GSE is not so easy to
find
>> in USA.
>>
>> Robert E. Schwartz
>> President
>> THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
>> Commercial Real Estate Services
>> 2406 East Pleasant Street
>> Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
>> Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600
>> Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
>>
>> This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If
you
>> are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
disclosure,
>> copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the
>> content of this information is strictly prohibited.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "AI Nut" <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>> To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>>
>>> Thank you, Z, and all you guys who are helping with this discussion!
>>>
>>> new question: what about ground support equipment? What is required and
>>> what is optional but nice to have?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Da
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com
Just wondering if I'm hitting the site with this message.
I'm not seeing my feedback show up????
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
I see it :)
SD737@aol.com wrote:
>--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com
>
>Just wondering if I'm hitting the site with this message.
>I'm not seeing my feedback show up????
>
>
>.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com>
Yup. Me and Bill are taking his hotrod there.
--
Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com
President Voice: (415) 412-3062
Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364
PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com
> From: Gary Cole <ca6209@flash.net>
> Reply-To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:17:06 -0600
> To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flash.net>
>
> Vance are you going to make it to Lancaster.
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vance Cochrane
> To: l29-list@matronics.com; AI Nut
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com>
>
> The L29 has on on board starter, no ground support required other than to
> make sure your nitrogen is full, if it isn't just replenish. Other than
> that, it's like a J3 cub ;) that burns a lot of gas.
> --
> Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com
> President Voice: (415) 412-3062
> Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364
> PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com
>
>
>> From: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>> Reply-To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:13:16 -0600
>> To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>
>> Don't we need GSE air to start the engines? Or is the -29 fully
>> self-contained???
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote:
>>
>>> --> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ"
>>> <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
>>>
>>> To answer your question. Everything is nice to have for GSE. But, a
> tail
>>> stand, and maybe a set of factory jacks make things a little easier. You
> can
>>> make the tail stand and use American jacks. The GSE is not so easy to
> find
>>> in USA.
>>>
>>> Robert E. Schwartz
>>> President
>>> THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
>>> Commercial Real Estate Services
>>> 2406 East Pleasant Street
>>> Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
>>> Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600
>>> Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
>>>
>>> This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If
> you
>>> are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
> disclosure,
>>> copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the
>>> content of this information is strictly prohibited.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "AI Nut" <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>> To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, Z, and all you guys who are helping with this discussion!
>>>>
>>>> new question: what about ground support equipment? What is required and
>>>> what is optional but nice to have?
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Da
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flash.net>
Is bill's 29 an R model? If so does it have a drop in rear floor.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vance Cochrane
Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
--> L29-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com>
Yup. Me and Bill are taking his hotrod there.
--
Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com
President Voice: (415) 412-3062
Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364
PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com
> From: Gary Cole <ca6209@flash.net>
> Reply-To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:17:06 -0600
> To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flash.net>
>
> Vance are you going to make it to Lancaster.
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vance Cochrane
> To: l29-list@matronics.com; AI Nut
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com>
>
> The L29 has on on board starter, no ground support required other than to
> make sure your nitrogen is full, if it isn't just replenish. Other than
> that, it's like a J3 cub ;) that burns a lot of gas.
> --
> Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com
> President Voice: (415) 412-3062
> Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364
> PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com
>
>
>> From: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>> Reply-To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:13:16 -0600
>> To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>
>> Don't we need GSE air to start the engines? Or is the -29 fully
>> self-contained???
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote:
>>
>>> --> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ"
>>> <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
>>>
>>> To answer your question. Everything is nice to have for GSE. But, a
> tail
>>> stand, and maybe a set of factory jacks make things a little easier. You
> can
>>> make the tail stand and use American jacks. The GSE is not so easy to
> find
>>> in USA.
>>>
>>> Robert E. Schwartz
>>> President
>>> THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
>>> Commercial Real Estate Services
>>> 2406 East Pleasant Street
>>> Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
>>> Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600
>>> Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
>>>
>>> This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If
> you
>>> are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
> disclosure,
>>> copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the
>>> content of this information is strictly prohibited.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "AI Nut" <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>> To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, Z, and all you guys who are helping with this discussion!
>>>>
>>>> new question: what about ground support equipment? What is required
and
>>>> what is optional but nice to have?
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Da
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> L29-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com>
No, it's not an R.
--
Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com
President Voice: (415) 412-3062
Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364
PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com
> From: Gary Cole <ca6209@flash.net>
> Reply-To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:12:47 -0600
> To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flash.net>
>
> Is bill's 29 an R model? If so does it have a drop in rear floor.
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vance Cochrane
> To: l29-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com>
>
> Yup. Me and Bill are taking his hotrod there.
> --
> Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com
> President Voice: (415) 412-3062
> Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364
> PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com
>
>
>> From: Gary Cole <ca6209@flash.net>
>> Reply-To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:17:06 -0600
>> To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RE: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flash.net>
>>
>> Vance are you going to make it to Lancaster.
>> Gary
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vance Cochrane
>> To: l29-list@matronics.com; AI Nut
>> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com>
>>
>> The L29 has on on board starter, no ground support required other than to
>> make sure your nitrogen is full, if it isn't just replenish. Other than
>> that, it's like a J3 cub ;) that burns a lot of gas.
>> --
>> Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com
>> President Voice: (415) 412-3062
>> Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364
>> PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com
>>
>>
>>> From: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>> Reply-To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:13:16 -0600
>>> To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>>
>>> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>>
>>> Don't we need GSE air to start the engines? Or is the -29 fully
>>> self-contained???
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote:
>>>
>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ"
>>>> <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
>>>>
>>>> To answer your question. Everything is nice to have for GSE. But, a
>> tail
>>>> stand, and maybe a set of factory jacks make things a little easier. You
>> can
>>>> make the tail stand and use American jacks. The GSE is not so easy to
>> find
>>>> in USA.
>>>>
>>>> Robert E. Schwartz
>>>> President
>>>> THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
>>>> Commercial Real Estate Services
>>>> 2406 East Pleasant Street
>>>> Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
>>>> Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600
>>>> Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
>>>>
>>>> This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If
>> you
>>>> are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
>> disclosure,
>>>> copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the
>>>> content of this information is strictly prohibited.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "AI Nut" <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>>> To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, Z, and all you guys who are helping with this discussion!
>>>>>
>>>>> new question: what about ground support equipment? What is required
> and
>>>>> what is optional but nice to have?
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Da
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net>
David,
Do have a manual for the L-29?
Have you bought one yet?
Have you ever been in one yet?
Tail dolly not nice to have..Required to have. Unless you live close to someone
who has one.
Have to pull the tail to do an annual. (A real annual)
Trade-A-Plane has jacks for about $200 each. Work great.
Get a manual.
Better yet, Vance can E mail you a training program.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
--> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Thank you, Z, and all you guys who are helping with this discussion!
new question: what about ground support equipment? What is required and
what is optional but nice to have?
David
>David:
>
>LOA's are no longer in existance. The new term is EAR experimental aircraft rating.
There are several guys in alabama with a lot of experience in the L-29 Alex
Makarenko flew them in Iraq as an instructor. I am down in Jacksonville and
would be more than willing to fly with you in your airplane or mine. Gary's
airplane is a good one. He has gone through it from top to bottom.
>
>Z
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <CA6209@FLASH.NET>
>
> David,
> I have an even better approach. Buy my L29 and fly it to Alabama.
> It is ready to go and you can use the ferry flight to your base
> As part of your training.
> Gary
> Call 713 781 3792
> Ca6209@flash.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AINut
> To: l29-list@matronics.com
> Subject: L29-List: flying the L-29
>
> -- L29-List message posted by: AINut <AINUT@HIWAAY.NET>
>
> If I buy and assemble a -29, I assume it won't be difficult to find
> pilots who will fly it with me until I can get my LOA, and split the
> fue
> l costs??? Or am I all wet here?
>
> David
>
>
>
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--> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Thanks, Bill. Replies embedded:
Bill Geipel wrote:
>--> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net>
>
>David,
>
>Do have a manual for the L-29?
>
>
No. Where does one obtain it?
>Have you bought one yet?
>
>
No, but am very close.
>Have you ever been in one yet?
>
>
No. Is that important?
>Tail dolly not nice to have..Required to have. Unless you live close to someone
who has one.
>Have to pull the tail to do an annual. (A real annual)
>Trade-A-Plane has jacks for about $200 each. Work great.
>
>
Not a problem.
>Get a manual.
>
>
Ok. Where?
>Better yet, Vance can E mail you a training program.
>
>
That would be great, too!
>Bill
>
>
>
>
David
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net>
Answers to follow
-----Original Message-----
From: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: flying the L-29
--> L29-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Thanks, Bill. Replies embedded:
Bill Geipel wrote:
>--> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net>
>
>David,
>
>Do have a manual for the L-29?
>
>
No. Where does one obtain it?
I would send one if I can find it. Any of these guys will probably send one for
you to copy.
>Have you bought one yet?
>
>
No, but am very close.
Be carefull. Have someone help you to look at it. Did you ever find out why it
got disassembled?
>Have you ever been in one yet?
>
No. Is that important?
Yes. It may not be what you are looking for. Before I imported 37 jets, I decided
I should at least get in one to find out if it would fill my needs. So I paid
for a ride. Smart move. I would have hated to run all over the communist world
then realize I didn't like it or couldn't afford it. Still can't afford it
but what the heck.
>Tail dolly not nice to have..Required to have. Unless you live close to someone
who has one.
>Have to pull the tail to do an annual. (A real annual)
>Trade-A-Plane has jacks for about $200 each. Work great.
>
>
Not a problem.
>Get a manual.
>
Ok. Where?
>Better yet, Vance can E mail you a training program.
>
>
That would be great, too!
Vance will be reading this. So he may send it on his own. Otherwise begging is
in order and always encouraged.After all, we are men and should be used to it.
>Bill
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| Subject: | Re: flying the L-29 |
--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com
The L-29 manuals are all on cd rom.. contact Zach.
Hopefully if you buy an L-29 either in pieces or flying you will seek some
knowledgeable guidance not only to benefit yourself, but to also protect the
entire L-29 group......!!
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