---------------------------------------------------------- L29-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/03/06: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:12 AM - FW: Bigger air con scoops (Jorgen Nielsen) 2. 06:10 AM - Re: FW: Bigger air con scoops (Ernest Martinez) 3. 06:32 AM - Re: formation (Ernest Martinez) 4. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: formation (Bill) 5. 08:26 AM - Re: formation (Colyergreg@aol.com) 6. 09:22 AM - Re: formation (Ernest Martinez) 7. 11:03 AM - Re: Re: formation (Bill) 8. 03:27 PM - Jet Races at Reno (sd737@aol.com) 9. 03:32 PM - Re: Jet Races at Reno (sd737@aol.com) 10. 07:10 PM - Re: Re: Jet Races at Reno (Bill) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:52 AM PST US From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: L29-List: FW: Bigger air con scoops --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" Hi, is it possible to get a picture of the bigger air con scoop / duct? this sounds like a worthwhile retrofit ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:29 AM PST US From: "Ernest Martinez" Subject: Re: L29-List: FW: Bigger air con scoops --> L29-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" Wouldnt make any difference while sitting still or taxi'ing Ernie On 3/3/06, Jorgen Nielsen wrote: > --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > Hi, is it possible to get a picture of the bigger air con scoop / duct? > > > this sounds like a worthwhile retrofit > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:26 AM PST US From: "Ernest Martinez" Subject: Re: L29-List: formation --> L29-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" You're also going to need your TSA waiver. Ernie On 3/3/06, SD737@aol.com wrote: > --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com > > Well, I don't know if I'd call it formation flying... LOL > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:42 AM PST US From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: formation --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" True enough. Did you all apply for the TSA waiver?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Martinez" Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: Re: L29-List: formation > --> L29-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" > > You're also going to need your TSA waiver. > > Ernie > > On 3/3/06, SD737@aol.com wrote: >> --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com >> >> Well, I don't know if I'd call it formation flying... LOL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:29 AM PST US From: Colyergreg@aol.com Subject: Re: L29-List: formation --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol.com TSA waiver????? please explain ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:03 AM PST US From: "Ernest Martinez" Subject: Re: L29-List: formation --> L29-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" After 9/11 a NOTAM was issued stating that Proficiency flying and flight training in aircraft over 12,500 lbs or turbo jet powered aircfraft is prohibited. Since the only kind of flying we can do in experimental/exhibition aircraft is either training or proficiency flying we are grounded. This NOTAM was never lifted. So the only way to fly is to get a waiver. We had to apply for it only once when the FAA was run by the Dept of Transportation. But when the FAA was transfered to the TSA they decided that we have to apply for the damn thing each year. Goto the CJAA website, they have the document there. Ernie On 3/3/06, Colyergreg@aol.com wrote: > --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol.com > > TSA waiver????? please explain > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:03:34 AM PST US From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: formation --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" Ya, what he said. EAA Warbirds has it as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: Re: L29-List: formation > --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol.com > > TSA waiver????? please explain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:25 PM PST US From: sd737@aol.com Subject: L29-List: Jet Races at Reno --> L29-List message posted by: sd737@aol.com Hi guys, Here is a response from Doc Blevins about getting more jets into the Reno Air Races. They have not previously had a class other than for the L-39's. Here is an attempt to get other jets into the event. Scott, Hey thanks for the note and possible L-29's. Let me give you a little update as of today 1705hrs. (subject to change within the hour.) Jim O'Neal (organizer of the L-39 races) told me: RARA had decided that the 39's were not a great attraction to the spectators and they needed to cut expenses. Jim thought it would be a good idea if we could come up with enough subsonic jets to field a bronze, silver, gold , based on qualifying times rather than a one model only (39's). What this means is that you could have some of the faster, 29's, iskras, provosts, etc. mixed in with the faster 39's. Conversely, some of the slower planes would be flying with each other in the Bronze race. They also wanted us to beat the bushes for prize money sponsorships, thus, absorbing some of the costs. That is where Jim and I are right now, trying to see if there is enough interest out there to make a pitch to RARA and get the jets reinstated. Time is of the essence, publicity, pylon school, etc . needs to be addressed. If you can do me a favor, and get some solid committments, Money and or planes, especially planes, then we can work on the money issue. We would like to have a minimun of around 20 entries, which I think is attainable. I've got to check in with Jim and let him know my recruiting results within the next couple of days. I think I can guarantee at least 3-5 29's, and l Casa. plus several 39's that raced last year. Hopefully, Jim can add to the total. Any help is appreciated. Jim and I will be making a pitch down at the CJAA convention at the end of this month, maybe some more. Keep your fingers crossed. Thanks again Doc B. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:55 PM PST US From: sd737@aol.com Subject: Re: L29-List: Jet Races at Reno --> L29-List message posted by: sd737@aol.com I know there would be at least 3 or 4 from Northern California and Reno. Not sure how many of you guys would be willing to fly your planes cross country to participate in the races. -----Original Message----- From: sd737@aol.com Sent: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:27:07 -0500 Subject: L29-List: Jet Races at Reno --> L29-List message posted by: sd737@aol.com Hi guys, Here is a response from Doc Blevins about getting more jets into the Reno Air Races. They have not previously had a class other than for the L-39's. Here is an attempt to get other jets into the event. Scott, Hey thanks for the note and possible L-29's. Let me give you a little update as of today 1705hrs. (subject to change within the hour.) Jim O'Neal (organizer of the L-39 races) told me: RARA had decided that the 39's were not a great attraction to the spectators and they needed to cut expenses. Jim thought it would be a good idea if we could come up with enough subsonic jets to field a bronze, silver, gold , based on qualifying times rather than a one model only (39's). What this means is that you could have some of the faster, 29's, iskras, provosts, etc. mixed in with the faster 39's. Conversely, some of the slower planes would be flying with each other in the Bronze race. They also wanted us to beat the bushes for prize money sponsorships, thus, absorbing some of the costs. That is where Jim and I are right now, trying to see if there is enough interest out there to make a pitch to RARA and get the jets reinstated. Time is of the essence, publicity, pylon school, etc . needs to be addressed. If you can do me a favor, and get some solid committments, Money and or planes, especially planes, then we can work on the money issue. We would like to have a minimun of around 20 entries, which I think is attainable. I've got to check in with Jim and let him know my recruiting results within the next couple of days. I think I can guarantee at least 3-5 29's, and l Casa. plus several 39's that raced last year. Hopefully, Jim can add to the total. Any help is appreciated. Jim and I will be making a pitch down at the CJAA convention at the end of this month, maybe some more. Keep your fingers crossed. Thanks again Doc B. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:59 PM PST US From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: Jet Races at Reno --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" Scott, send me Doc Blevins E mail please. czech6@kellin.net