---------------------------------------------------------- L29-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/08/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:01 AM - fly-in (Bill) 2. 11:33 AM - Re: fly-in (colyergreg@aol.com) 3. 01:12 PM - Re: Re: fly-in (Bill) 4. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: fly-in (Ernest Martinez) 5. 01:23 PM - Re: Re: Re: fly-in (Bill) 6. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: Re: fly-in (Ernest Martinez) 7. 01:57 PM - Re: fly-in (colyergreg@aol.com) 8. 02:28 PM - Re: fly-in (fish@aviation-tech.com) 9. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: fly-in (Bill) 10. 04:47 PM - Re: fly-in (Colyergreg@aol.com) 11. 04:50 PM - Fw: Re: .VCB (Colyergreg@aol.com) 12. 04:50 PM - (no subject) (Colyergreg@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:11 AM PST US From: "Bill" Subject: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" We need to know immediately, tonight, who is and who isn't coming. If only one person is coming from So. Cal, then we are thinking of moving it to Nut Tree in Vacaville. 5 guys are in the North, it makes sense. However, if we move to the North, Doug Gilliss can only come up Sunday, which means he will only be able to do check rides, no instruction, because of time. Pete is talking to some Yak guys in the Bay area, if they are leads we can do it. I can't recommend and give the check ride. Vance, FAST Lead, can recommend, but with 5-6 airplanes, I'm not sure we can fly that much. So if we go to Cal City, we have 3 back seaters. If we go to Nut Tree, we have 2. So Far. The Yak guys will help. If we go South, Vance and I can fly to Reno or? and we can do instruction on the way to Cal City. No waste. Cal City we have hanger, nitro, fuel, 3 back seaters. Nut Tree we have the same, only 2 backseaters. So 3 stay on the ground while 2 fly. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:45 AM PST US From: colyergreg@aol.com Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com I can get the back seaters in the bay area. working on it now. There is 4 of us up here plus john down south. Cheap Jet A as well. BBQ at my house saturday night, friday night pizza in the hanger with ground school. doug on sunday Vance and bill saturday, will get at least 2 hopefully 3 more back seaters for saturday and we will only need 2 on sunday. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:00:49 -0600 Subject: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" We need to know immediately, tonight, who is and who isn't coming. If only one person is coming from So. Cal, then we are thinking of moving it to Nut Tree in Vacaville. 5 guys are in the North, it makes sense. However, if we move to the North, Doug Gilliss can only come up Sunday, which means he will only be able to do check rides, no instruction, because of time. Pete is talking to some Yak guys in the Bay area, if they are leads we can do it. I can't recommend and give the check ride. Vance, FAST Lead, can recommend, but with 5-6 airplanes, I'm not sure we can fly that much. So if we go to Cal City, we have 3 back seaters. If we go to Nut Tree, we have 2. So Far. The Yak guys will help. If we go South, Vance and I can fly to Reno or? and we can do instruction on the way to Cal City. No waste. Cal City we have hanger, nitro, fuel, 3 back seaters. Nut Tree we have the same, only 2 backseaters. So 3 stay on the ground while 2 fly. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:49 PM PST US From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" Its kind of a waste to buy Doug a ticket just for Sunday. If we can get 2 lead pilots in the area, that will do. John is happy to fly up to Nut Tree. I'll probably come up with him unless I run out of time then I'll fly into SMF. Can I get a ride to your place? Vance will drive up. We can start as early as we want on Friday. We all are planning the day off. John and I are coming up early. Just so everybody understands, there may or may not be anyone qualified or ready for a check ride. If you've been flying formation it will help, but don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen. Its book work as well as flying. I'm making a few calls as well to some FAST leads in the area. Call the guys you know. Pete was saying there may be some Yak guys that are leads. Pepperoni and Mushrooms! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in > --> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com > > I can get the back seaters in the bay area. working on it now. There is > 4 of us up here plus john down south. Cheap Jet A as well. BBQ at my > house saturday night, friday night pizza in the hanger with ground school. > doug on sunday Vance and bill saturday, will get at least 2 hopefully 3 > more back seaters for saturday and we will only need 2 on sunday. Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill > To: l29-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:00:49 -0600 > Subject: L29-List: fly-in > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" > > We need to know immediately, tonight, who is and who isn't coming. If only > one > person is coming from So. Cal, then we are thinking of moving it to Nut > Tree in > Vacaville. 5 guys are in the North, it makes sense. > > However, if we move to the North, Doug Gilliss can only come up Sunday, > which > means he will only be able to do check rides, no instruction, because of > time. > > Pete is talking to some Yak guys in the Bay area, if they are leads we can > do > it. I can't recommend and give the check ride. Vance, FAST Lead, can > recommend, > but with 5-6 airplanes, I'm not sure we can fly that much. > > So if we go to Cal City, we have 3 back seaters. If we go to Nut Tree, we > have > 2. So Far. > The Yak guys will help. > > If we go South, Vance and I can fly to Reno or? and we can do instruction > on the > way to Cal City. No waste. > > Cal City we have hanger, nitro, fuel, 3 back seaters. > Nut Tree we have the same, only 2 backseaters. So 3 stay on the ground > while 2 > fly. > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:40 PM PST US From: "Ernest Martinez" Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" Sounds like herding cats would be easier :) Ernie On 3/8/06, Bill wrote: > --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" > > Its kind of a waste to buy Doug a ticket just for Sunday. If we can get 2 > lead pilots in the area, that will do. John is happy to fly up to Nut Tree. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:53 PM PST US From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" Coming out? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Martinez" Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in > --> L29-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" > > Sounds like herding cats would be easier :) > > Ernie > > On 3/8/06, Bill wrote: >> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" >> >> Its kind of a waste to buy Doug a ticket just for Sunday. If we can get 2 >> lead pilots in the area, that will do. John is happy to fly up to Nut >> Tree. > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:28 PM PST US From: "Ernest Martinez" Subject: Re: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" To Where LOL????? I wouldnt know where to take a commercial flight to. I cant make it, a little too far for me. Hey, maybe you can all have your flyin down here in the SE :) Ernie On 3/8/06, Bill wrote: > --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" > > Coming out? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ernest Martinez" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:21 PM > Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in > > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" > > > > Sounds like herding cats would be easier :) > > > > Ernie > > > > On 3/8/06, Bill wrote: > >> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" > >> > >> Its kind of a waste to buy Doug a ticket just for Sunday. If we can get 2 > >> lead pilots in the area, that will do. John is happy to fly up to Nut > >> Tree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:49 PM PST US From: colyergreg@aol.com Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com bill, if you fly up, OAK is much better and closer to fly into. I will pick you up. I am off friday as well. Pete talked with Doug on the phone, he's flown with all of us before and says we should be ready for check out after a weekend. I will let you know when I hear back from the yak guys I told you about. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:12:32 -0600 Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" Its kind of a waste to buy Doug a ticket just for Sunday. If we can get 2 lead pilots in the area, that will do. John is happy to fly up to Nut Tree. I'll probably come up with him unless I run out of time then I'll fly into SMF. Can I get a ride to your place? Vance will drive up. We can start as early as we want on Friday. We all are planning the day off. John and I are coming up early. Just so everybody understands, there may or may not be anyone qualified or ready for a check ride. If you've been flying formation it will help, but don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen. Its book work as well as flying. I'm making a few calls as well to some FAST leads in the area. Call the guys you know. Pete was saying there may be some Yak guys that are leads. Pepperoni and Mushrooms! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in > --> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com > > I can get the back seaters in the bay area. working on it now. There is > 4 of us up here plus john down south. Cheap Jet A as well. BBQ at my > house saturday night, friday night pizza in the hanger with ground school. > doug on sunday Vance and bill saturday, will get at least 2 hopefully 3 > more back seaters for saturday and we will only need 2 on sunday. Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill > To: l29-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:00:49 -0600 > Subject: L29-List: fly-in > > > --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" > > We need to know immediately, tonight, who is and who isn't coming. If only > one > person is coming from So. Cal, then we are thinking of moving it to Nut > Tree in > Vacaville. 5 guys are in the North, it makes sense. > > However, if we move to the North, Doug Gilliss can only come up Sunday, > which > means he will only be able to do check rides, no instruction, because of > time. > > Pete is talking to some Yak guys in the Bay area, if they are leads we can > do > it. I can't recommend and give the check ride. Vance, FAST Lead, can > recommend, > but with 5-6 airplanes, I'm not sure we can fly that much. > > So if we go to Cal City, we have 3 back seaters. If we go to Nut Tree, we > have > 2. So Far. > The Yak guys will help. > > If we go South, Vance and I can fly to Reno or? and we can do instruction > on the > way to Cal City. No waste. > > Cal City we have hanger, nitro, fuel, 3 back seaters. > Nut Tree we have the same, only 2 backseaters. So 3 stay on the ground > while 2 > fly. > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:21 PM PST US From: fish@aviation-tech.com Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com Group, I talked to Tom Weil today about fuel prices. His margin is very low, however he agreed to drop the pump price an additional $.05 gal for the weekend. He said that logistically it would be difficult to charge only us the difference, so he is lowering the Jet A price for everyone for that weekend only. Started working on parking issues and meeting rooms as well. Tom asked that I be a single point of contact for Cal City, so if you have questions call me. If I do not know the answer, I will find out and get back to you. Fly Safe John Fischer Cell (818) 257-0911 >--> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com > >bill, > if you fly up, OAK is much better and closer to fly into. I will pick you up. I am off friday as well. Pete talked with Doug on the phone, he's flown with all of us before and says we should be ready for check out after a weekend. I will let you know when I hear back from the yak guys I told you about. > >Greg > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bill >To: l29-list@matronics.com >Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:12:32 -0600 >Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in > > >--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" > >Its kind of a waste to buy Doug a ticket just for Sunday. If we can get 2 >lead pilots in the area, that will do. John is happy to fly up to Nut Tree. >I'll probably come up with him unless I run out of time then I'll fly into >SMF. Can I get a ride to your place? Vance will drive up. > >We can start as early as we want on Friday. We all are planning the day off. >John and I are coming up early. > >Just so everybody understands, there may or may not be anyone qualified or >ready for a check ride. If you've been flying formation it will help, but >don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen. > >Its book work as well as flying. > >I'm making a few calls as well to some FAST leads in the area. Call the guys >you know. Pete was saying there may be some Yak guys that are leads. > >Pepperoni and Mushrooms! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:33 PM >Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in > > >> --> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com >> >> I can get the back seaters in the bay area. working on it now. There is >> 4 of us up here plus john down south. Cheap Jet A as well. BBQ at my >> house saturday night, friday night pizza in the hanger with ground school. >> doug on sunday Vance and bill saturday, will get at least 2 hopefully 3 >> more back seaters for saturday and we will only need 2 on sunday. Greg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bill >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:00:49 -0600 >> Subject: L29-List: fly-in >> >> >> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" >> >> We need to know immediately, tonight, who is and who isn't coming. If only >> one >> person is coming from So. Cal, then we are thinking of moving it to Nut >> Tree in >> Vacaville. 5 guys are in the North, it makes sense. >> >> However, if we move to the North, Doug Gilliss can only come up Sunday, >> which >> means he will only be able to do check rides, no instruction, because of >> time. >> >> Pete is talking to some Yak guys in the Bay area, if they are leads we can >> do >> it. I can't recommend and give the check ride. Vance, FAST Lead, can >> recommend, >> but with 5-6 airplanes, I'm not sure we can fly that much. >> >> So if we go to Cal City, we have 3 back seaters. If we go to Nut Tree, we >> have >> 2. So Far. >> The Yak guys will help. >> >> If we go South, Vance and I can fly to Reno or? and we can do instruction >> on the >> way to Cal City. No waste. >> >> Cal City we have hanger, nitro, fuel, 3 back seaters. >> Nut Tree we have the same, only 2 backseaters. So 3 stay on the ground >> while 2 >> fly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:30 PM PST US From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" We might be moving to Nut Tree airport in the North. Turns out that only 1 guy was in the South and 4 in the North, so it made more sense to go North. We appreciate the work. Any chance you can join us? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:07 AM Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in > --> L29-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com > > Group, > > I talked to Tom Weil today about fuel prices. His margin is very low, > however > he agreed to drop the pump price an additional $.05 gal for the weekend. > He > said that logistically it would be difficult to charge only us the > difference, > so he is lowering the Jet A price for everyone for that weekend only. > > Started working on parking issues and meeting rooms as well. > > Tom asked that I be a single point of contact for Cal City, so if you have > questions > call me. If I do not know the answer, I will find out and get back to you. > > Fly Safe > John Fischer > Cell (818) 257-0911 > > >>--> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com >> >>bill, >> if you fly up, OAK is much better and closer to fly into. I will pick >> you > up. I am off friday as well. Pete talked with Doug on the phone, he's > flown > with all of us before and says we should be ready for check out after a > weekend. > I will let you know when I hear back from the yak guys I told you about. >> >>Greg >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Bill >>To: l29-list@matronics.com >>Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:12:32 -0600 >>Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in >> >> >>--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" >> >>Its kind of a waste to buy Doug a ticket just for Sunday. If we can get 2 > >>lead pilots in the area, that will do. John is happy to fly up to Nut >>Tree. > >>I'll probably come up with him unless I run out of time then I'll fly into > >>SMF. Can I get a ride to your place? Vance will drive up. >> >>We can start as early as we want on Friday. We all are planning the day >>off. > >>John and I are coming up early. >> >>Just so everybody understands, there may or may not be anyone qualified or > >>ready for a check ride. If you've been flying formation it will help, but > >>don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen. >> >>Its book work as well as flying. >> >>I'm making a few calls as well to some FAST leads in the area. Call the >>guys > >>you know. Pete was saying there may be some Yak guys that are leads. >> >>Pepperoni and Mushrooms! >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:33 PM >>Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in >> >> >>> --> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com >>> >>> I can get the back seaters in the bay area. working on it now. There >>> is > >>> 4 of us up here plus john down south. Cheap Jet A as well. BBQ at my >>> house saturday night, friday night pizza in the hanger with ground >>> school. > >>> doug on sunday Vance and bill saturday, will get at least 2 hopefully 3 > >>> more back seaters for saturday and we will only need 2 on sunday. Greg >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bill >>> To: l29-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:00:49 -0600 >>> Subject: L29-List: fly-in >>> >>> >>> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" >>> >>> We need to know immediately, tonight, who is and who isn't coming. If >>> only > >>> one >>> person is coming from So. Cal, then we are thinking of moving it to Nut > >>> Tree in >>> Vacaville. 5 guys are in the North, it makes sense. >>> >>> However, if we move to the North, Doug Gilliss can only come up Sunday, > >>> which >>> means he will only be able to do check rides, no instruction, because of > >>> time. >>> >>> Pete is talking to some Yak guys in the Bay area, if they are leads we >>> can > >>> do >>> it. I can't recommend and give the check ride. Vance, FAST Lead, can >>> recommend, >>> but with 5-6 airplanes, I'm not sure we can fly that much. >>> >>> So if we go to Cal City, we have 3 back seaters. If we go to Nut Tree, >>> we > >>> have >>> 2. So Far. >>> The Yak guys will help. >>> >>> If we go South, Vance and I can fly to Reno or? and we can do >>> instruction > >>> on the >>> way to Cal City. No waste. >>> >>> Cal City we have hanger, nitro, fuel, 3 back seaters. >>> Nut Tree we have the same, only 2 backseaters. So 3 stay on the ground >>> while 2 >>> fly. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:47:37 PM PST US From: Colyergreg@aol.com Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol.com John, On behalf of the whole lot of us, Many thanks for all your leg work. As it turns out 4 of us were coming from Northern CA, some way north and RNO. Only 1 guy from so Cal so we moved it to VCB. More fuel for flying. Again thanks for your leg work and maybe you can make it up here? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:07 PM PST US From: Colyergreg@aol.com Subject: L29-List: Fwd: Re: .VCB --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol.com Return-path: From: Colyergreg@aol.com Full-name: Colyergreg Subject: Re: Re: .VCB -------------------------------1141864754 Bill, Yes I am sorry, I think my last post came out wrong. Nothing is a guarantee and if we are not ready, were not. Hopefully with enough flying and the expert teaching we will be ready or at least close. -------------------------------1141864754 Bill, Yes I am sorry, I think my last post came out wrong. Nothing is a guarantee and if we are not ready, were not. Hopefully with enough flying and the expert teaching we will be ready or at least close. -------------------------------1141864754-- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:36 PM PST US From: Colyergreg@aol.com Subject: L29-List: (no subject) --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol.com Bill, Yes I am sorry, I think my last post came out wrong. Nothing is a guarantee and if we are not ready, were not. Hopefully with enough flying and the expert teaching we will be ready or at least close